Everything posted by Scotty
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Fixtures after the split
fixture list (and SPL prediction league) updated with fixtures for weeks 34-38 including the changes noted above by ICTShop Fixtures: http://stats.caleythistleonline.com/matches.php SPL-PL: http://predictions.caleythistleonline.com/
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Shirt on ebay.
The lack of a sponsor on the first one is what red flags it for me ..... Actual team shirts, certainly those worn in matches at that time, were never without a sponsor name. We had the away shirt for two seasons and in one of them it was Scotrail, the next it was Sharp and a blank one seems a little strange. It may well be an official shirt, and it may be one that was supplied blank to the club during the changeover in sponsors, but if it was used in a match it would at the very least have had a sponsor transfer added to it. The only exception that I know of - and I have two of these shirts as a sponsor of two players at the time - are the shirts worn for the Hearts -V- ICT cup game at Tynecastle. We didnt wear our 'real' shirts for this game as our striped red/blue home shirt was deemed to clash with the maroon of Hearts when viewed on TV so we resurrected the same strips that were worn at Celtic Park in 2000 and a SHARP logo was ironed on over the top of the Scotrail printing on them. These are prized possessions of mine given that the shirts, and myself were present at both of these historic victories.
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Fixtures after the split
So Inverness to Hamilton in 3 days for the Highland Marchers !!!!
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The race to the SPL
either --- don't mind/care.
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Hayes out for rest of the season
Glass half-full again I see DC !!!
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Hayes out for rest of the season
yup ... I guess we need to leave it to the people more closely involved to work out whats best for all concerned .... The player, the club medical staff, and the surgeon/specialists .... Playing devil's advocate from my earlier post, if you look at it the other way and accept that we lose him now, and that the lack of some of his inspirational play perhaps costs us a position or two and maybe 150-200k overall, I suppose that is better than missing out on him at the start of next season, hitting an early season slump we cannot fight our way out of, and then getting relegated by the odd point because of our slow start which would cost the club another seven figure sum ......
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Hayes out for rest of the season
kinda torn on this one given that each position in the table means more money so the higher we finish the more the cash the club receives ...... Personally I would like to see us work backwards on deciding when is the right time. If we know how long his rehab is likely to be, and we know we want him ready for the start of next season, work it out so that he can play for as long as possible this season before heading off in enough time for the procedure, rehab and pre-season training ..... Not sure of the exact numbers for this year, but two or three years ago before Setanta went bust, finishing 7th was worth about £1.1m and finishing 11th was worth about £780k ..... a difference of more than £300k which is a fairly significant sum for a 'smaller' team (financially speaking) like ICT. The numbers may be different now with the demise of Setanta but I believe the formula is still the same ...... The SPL divides all the sponsor cash based on final league position with each team guaranteed 4% of the revenue (about 500K) and then their 'bonus' payment determined by position. Each position from 12th up to 4th receives a bonus based on 0.5% increments. 12th gets 0.5%, 11th gets 1%, 10th gets 1.5% etc etc ..... in the past, this meant that each position higher up the table was worth about an extra £60k or so ...... (by comparison, 3rd gets a 5.5% bonus, so an extra 1% instead of 0.5%, and the way our league is skewed the top two get 13% and 11% as a bonus)
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Celtic game
not yet - I would expect this fixture and rest of split fixtures to be released this week ...... In other news, the Hamilton loss yesterday means that only they, St Mirren, Aberdeen or St Johnstone can now be relegated ... everyone else is safe
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Kilmarnock -V- ICT : Matchday Thread
Livi confirmed as champs of D2 .... D1 for them next year. Can they do it 3 times in a row ?
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Kilmarnock -V- ICT : Matchday Thread
oh well - we can be "best of the rest" ... couple of interesting fixtures too .... Hibs and Aberdeen.
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Kilmarnock -V- ICT : Matchday Thread
FT @ Tynecastle 0-0. need a winning goal in the next 30 seconds or we are bottom six for sure.
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Kilmarnock -V- ICT : Matchday Thread
both teams now playing 4-2-4.
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Kilmarnock -V- ICT : Matchday Thread
Radio commentators seem sure its Rooney off but every text update site is showing Doran coming off ..... surely the two cannot be confused !!! I am tending to believe the commentators as the text updates are probably coming from a single texter and the error is therefore reproduced across many sites.
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Kilmarnock -V- ICT : Matchday Thread
nahh - loads of action to come in this game ... Killie-ICT games are not usually boring and I can see a couple of goals yet but the thing is, they could come for either side as its so open
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Kilmarnock -V- Inverness CT - Report
Killie stalemate not enough to keep the dream alive. Despite a hard earned point at Rugby Park, Inverness failed to keep alive their top-six aspirations as Motherwell drew with Hearts at Tynecastle to ensure they would remain in the top half. An excellent Jonny Hayes solo goal in the tenth minute of the first half was cancelled out by Liam Kelly three minutes later and despite Kilmarnock having the lions share of the chances, Ryan Esson ensured the visitors left Ayrshire with a point. William Gros missed a great chance to wrap up the points for Killie but a miss of Rooney like proportions meant the game finished all square. That was his last involvement in the game as his boss had seen enough and replaced the errant Frenchman with immediate effect. 9th April 2011 Rugby Park, Kilmarnock KILMARNOCK 1 - Kelly (13) TEAM: Jaakkola, Clancy, Hay, Fowler (Silva 88), O'Leary, Bryson, Hamill, Kelly, Rui Miguel (Dayton 70), Eremenko, Gros (McKenzie 57) SUBS: Letheren, Evans, Pursehouse, Aubameyang Booked: none Sent Off: none ICT 1 - Hayes (10) TEAM: Esson, Tokely, Gillet, Hogg, Duff, Cox (MacDonald 86), Hayes, Ross, Foran, Rooney (Morrison 46), Doran SUBS: Tuffey, Munro, Innes, Duncan, Sutherland Booked: Duff (77) Sent Off: none Referee John McKendrick Attendance 4518 Terry Butcher tried to liven up his side and brought in Kenny Gillet, Nick Ross and Aaron Doran, with Russell Duncan, Eric Odhiambo and surprisingly Grant Munro dropping to the bench. Killie caretaker boss Kenny Shiels had no recognised central defender and also made three changes, Rui Miguel, Liam Kelly and Scotland U21 cap Ryan O'Leary for the injured Frazer Wright and Mohamadou Sissoko, with David Silva finding himself on the bench. Here is Alternative to tell us how it went.............................. Bang goes the top six then; and while we might have looked like a team capable of finishing in the top half four or five months ago, on the basis of yesterday’s performance, big on endeavour but short on creativity, we aren’t quite there yet. It was a beautiful day for football in Ayrshire yesterday, but there was a definite end-of-season feeling about the game, with only four and a half thousand inside Rugby Park, including what was probably ICT’s smallest travelling support of the season. Four and a half thousand inside a stadium with a capacity of eighteen thousand. That’s thirteen and a half thousand empty seats. And yet, four simple-minded Kilmarnock supporters, with unfortunate children in tow, still managed to sit themselves in the middle of the away section. If that wasn’t daft enough, when Killie equalised, they all jumped up and made vigorous Nescafé gestures towards us, promptly getting themselves moved. I mean, really. Our happy few arrived at the ground via the Hunting Lodge to discover that Terry Butcher had made a few changes to the team that had performed pretty dismally against Dundee Utd three weeks previously. Eric Odhiambo, Russell Duncan and Grant Munro were dropped; Aaron Doran, Nick Ross and Kenny Gillet came in. Terry Butcher’s willingness to change his team when things aren’t working is generally a strength, but arguably yesterday’s changes didn’t really make the difference between a loss and a draw. Once again, Jonny Hayes and Richie Foran were our most dangerous and creative players: the central midfield still failed to impose itself on the game and, to me at least, Doran again looked far too reluctant to get involved, staying stranded on the touchline, not shouting for the ball and failing to make overlapping runs. Some might argue that he ‘wasn’t given the service’: but players have to be looking for the service in order to get it. Gillet, by contrast, was assured defensively and made some promising moves forward, but the preferment of Chris Hogg to Grant Munro, who has rarely let us down in central defence, seems a little harsh. Just as they had against Dundee Utd, Caley Thistle began the game fairly brightly, with Jonny Hayes’ willingness to drop deep to try to engineer attacking moves evident from the start. Shortly after the team had forced a couple of corners, it was a move like this that brought the opening goal. Hayes pounced on some slack possession to nick the ball off Garry Hay’s toes, slalom his way between Hay and Liam Kelly and home in on goal, dragging Tim Clancy across the box before firing the ball through Anssi Jaakkola in the Kilmarnock goal. 1-0 ICT, and in the away section, the supporters began to dream tentatively again of a top six finish... ...For all of three minutes. Almost immediately, Kilmarnock’s players upped their game and began taking control of the midfield. Their equalising goal, although originating from a slack ICT header forward, was a thing of beauty; a series of quick passes in the midfield ended with an elegant chipped pass forward from Alexei Eremenko to the unmarked Liam Kelly, and he lobbed Ryan Esson from the edge of the box. 1-1, then, and just a few minutes later Kilmarnock thought they had had gone ahead when William Gros fired the ball past Esson after another attractive passing move in which Eremenko found Gros with another perfectly weighted chipped pass. Fortunately for Caley, the offside flag had gone up against Gros. Shortly after that, Gros was again through on goals, but this time he was denied by a brave block from Esson, right at the edge of the area. As the French striker would find out in the second half, it wasn’t destined to be his day. Killie continued to hold the upper hand, with Liam Kelly’s low shot from a Killie corner being scooped off the line by Adam Rooney, then Rui Miguel heading narrowly wide as the Ayrshire team continued to press. The closest Caley Thistle came during this period was a shot from Lee Cox that flew wide, but on thirty five minutes ICT came close to taking the lead in comical circumstances when Anssi Jaakkola fumbled a bouncing but fairly innocuous-looking Aaron Doran free kick, allowing it to spill under his body so that he had to spin and seize the ball just before it crossed the line. For the rest of the game, the Finnish keeper had to endure unfavourable comparisons with Scotland’s – and Killie’s – number three, Cammy Bell, from the away support. The big news at the start of the second half from an ICT point of view was the replacement of Adam Rooney with Gavin Morrison. There was no evidence of Rooney being injured, and the system did switch to a 4-51, with Richie Foran being asked to play the lone striker role. Certainly, Rooney had had one of his least effective games in an ICT shirt, and the manager is entitled to try out potential combinations for next season given the likelihood of Rooney having moved on by then, but it seemed a little perplexing to remove the team’s most prolific striker with the game poised at 1-1 and an outside chance of making the top six still remaining. Morrison, to his credit, worked hard and looked neat and tidy in possession, although the bolstered midfield was able to dictate play no more than it had in the first half. Although ICT’s players chased the game throughout the second half and worked hard to close down possession, they rarely looked like creating much and ultimately, can feel a little fortunate to have gained a point from the game. They limited Kilmarnock to just a few chances, but one, in fifty six minutes would surely have gone in on any other day. Bryson, Miguel and Eremenko combined neatly and the latter lobbed a neat cross over the heads of the ICT central defenders to where William Gros, was standing, unmarked and just two yards out. Somehow, he contrived to steer his header wide. Before he had reached the eighteen yard line on his way back from this spectacular cock-up, his number was up on the substitutes’ boards and he was replaced by Rory McKenzie. After that, the game continued to follow much the same pattern: Killie dominated possession and played some nice football, but ICT continued to work hard and restrict their chances. There were a couple of momentarily concerning incidents, when Ryan Esson spilled a shot from second substitute James Dayton and had to scamper across his area to collect the ball ahead of the lurking Eremenko, and again when Esson had to flick a dangerous cross from Garry Hay over the crossbar at the last second. Then, just a minute from full time, Esson again showed why he is widely considered to have been ICT’s best player this season, when he beat away a fierce drive from David Silva, ensuring that Terry Butcher’s team would leave with a point. Among the away supporters, there seemed to be a certain amount of disappointment that the possibility of top six football had ended relatively tamely and a slight frustration at the continuing inability to create clear chances which has affected the team since December, but also some recognition of the effort the team had put in against a home side that is well clear of them in the league and whose players showed again that they are capable of playing passing football of genuine quality. And that was about it from Kilmarnock; unless you consider the return fixture at the Hunting Lodge, the abandonment of Red Card Reilly in a toilet, the recriminations in Fanny by Gaslight, the songs on the train, the wee sleep in the Horseshoe and I assume (although I was long gone by that point) the Immortal karaoke at Brechin’s. Just another Saturday: where will the post-split fixtures take us ?
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Kilmarnock -V- ICT : Matchday Thread
could be a fitness reason? If we win today TB may have to get the guys up for 3 games in 7 days
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Celtic game
Thats pretty much it ...... basically, if we lose today or Motherwell win then the top six is decided and they can reschedule the Celtic game for whenever they want (at a time to suit Celtic and likely after the split). However, if we win and Well lose (or draw) then the Top 6 is not decided and it will need to be played before the split and this coming Thursday is pretty much the only date they have available. Incidentally - an ICTFC win today makes it mathematically impossible for us to be relegated !
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Kilmarnock -V- ICT : Matchday Thread
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Shirt on ebay.
Official away shirt from Season 2000/2001 & Season 2001/02. Sponsored by Scotrail in 2000/01 and by Sharp in 01/02. : http://caleythistleonline.com/shirts.html If it has no sponsor on it I would be a bit skeptical if it is an actual squad shirt though .... I would suspect it just has #9 transfer on the back but I could be wrong !!!! Not sure who would have had #9 in 2000/01 but I know that Paul Ritchie frequently wore than number in 01/02. But it could be many players as there were no squad numbers.
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CTO Fixture List
also see here for confirmation of dates on SPL website: http://www.scotprem.com/content/default.asp?page=s49
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CTO Fixture List
the dates added to our fixture list are as per the fixtures sent out to us by the fixture licensing folks at the start of the season (and amended during the season for postponements and re-arranged games as well as cup games). The post-split fixtures on the list are the dates given then but when the fixtures are announced some may change, especially if we reach the top six and have any televised games. As for the 2019 game - its a limitation of the system, we cannot add a scoreline of P-P so we just change the date to somewhere far in the future and adjust it when the real date is announced.
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What did John Boyle say
Wasnt our chairman in the dugout once too ??? Although I agree that it is unusual for that to happen, I am not sure if there are any restrictions on official club personnel with official titles being in the dugout area .... but I am sure someone will know. Nahhh .... The Charlie one has long since been resolved. I asked him that question and got the answer ! (or perhaps 'an' answer)
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Pitch Inspection***GAME OFF***
thats my reading of it too ..... or to highlight the article a different way and add a single but important missing word ..... The more you read that article, the more ludicrous the stance becomes .... The clubs, TV companies and SPL may have agreed on everything but did they consult Mother Nature to make sure she was ok with it ? ...... Also, despite this seemingly cast-in-stone agreement, all but one of those involved agreed to delay the game on the day and it happened to be the ones least affected that were the spoilers. There are so many factors that could affect a game so surely the FLEXIBILITY to adjust the timing and get it played on the day it is scheduled, even a few hours later is preferable to a re-arrangement days or weeks later involving a lot more costs to everyone involved, especially fans ... and especially considering the already congested schedule because of earlier postponements over winter. Need to find and send that old Esther Rantzen "Jobsworth" hat to Hampden for the penpushers.
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Pitch Inspection***GAME OFF***
To me, this says it all ........ Full Article here: http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/2210729?UserKey= So ICT agreed to delay, Celtic agreed to delay, and even ESPN have kind of admitted that whilst not ideal they would not have been averse to a delay even though it would mean the match probably couldnt go out live ..... yet some dickhead penpusher at Hampden with no authority to make a real decision quotes the 15 minute rule as a reason for inconveniencing everyone, and lets the referee shoulder the responsibility of actually postponing the game when a simple bit of common sense might have allowed travelling fans (of both teams not just Celtic) to complete their journey and see a game they set out early in the morning to watch ! What a wunch of bankers !
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Pitch Inspection***GAME OFF***
Damn, I knew I should have said permeability !!! I believe this is pretty accurate ... and the fact that the sub-surface had to be compacted by the equivalent of road-rollers prior to the pipes going in didnt help either as far as I am aware ! Those who choose to can slag Tommy off as much as they want, he's got broad shoulders and I am sure he can take it, but short of the measures outlined above, not sure what he can actually do to win this battle of mother nature -V- human engineering ?