IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER

It is the polite word which rhymes with angina that we probably called Neil Lennon on numerous occasions !! Back to focus though - the longer we go without a boost the more the sense of panic WILL increase.

SP - isnt it strange how chinese whispers develop - I was reliably informed athat Mantis had an attached ******, that you had 4 STD injections and bolts attached to yoer neck, a vasectomy and recently a lobotomy operation. And if the depression comes back then you now who to call.

Should I tell them about the aquifer ?

Feck me - perhaps Oddquine is an aging Hiawatha ?

Strongly rumoured to being on the way to Crawley Town apparently.

It is called Post Traumatic Stress Disorder !!

Lets hope that the Black Hills are not the feckin Black Isle then and Tokely isnt Crazy Horse !! There are actually quite a few similarities between Butcher and Custer as the latter was described as "a media type personality", charismatic and flambouyant but was criticised by many of his generals for being aloof, tactically questioned, especially in regard to defensive actions.

Oddquine - As a token of my delight that you appear to have altered your style I have awarded you a rare IHE "like" But I have never heard of a realistic pessimist hence: " The glass is both half-full and half-empty. This is the position of the realist. Why don’t we tend to perceive this apparently obvious answer until it’s pointed out? Ralph Waldo Emerson stated, “People only see what they are prepared to see.” Psychologically, it is often beneficial to view things from this more balanced and flexible perspective in order to be better able to resolve issues rather than remain stuck. For example, when we are angry with someone we may perceive them as ‘bad’ – e.g., “I have a terrible boss”. However, a person is usually not all good or bad but more accurately exhibits both good and bad behaviours. It may be true that your boss behaves in an overbearing manner; however, it may also be true that he is quite generous with bonuses and time-off. If I over-simplify the way I view my boss it generates stronger negative feelings than are perhaps justified. When I reframe my thinking to include his positive qualities, the strength of the negative feelings usually is reduced. This is the starting point for eventually resolving difficulties with another person. A technique used to increase empathy or perspective-taking is to imagine ourselves in the other person’s shoes and remind ourselves of times when we may have behaved similarly – e.g., cut someone off when driving. Usually, we appreciate when the other person gives us the benefit of the doubt and views it as only an error in judgement. Are your friends and colleagues optimists, pessimists or realists? Now you can find out.

Bricks and mortar make a house, but the laughter of children makes a home. But in all seriousness the positives are the covered areas but it looks like a bit of a poor mans Midden or Liviscum to me. The other big issues must be the site of the ground in regard to traffic control, general access and if we had problems with the undersoil heating and the drainage then they are surely going to be worse off. I am looking forward to christening their away shed but I may have to don the wellies and I am slightly concerned about the infectious and olfactory properties of the surrounding area.

Well at least that is one thing that we cant blame on either Terry Butcher or the Merger. Perhaps the areas should be named the Ross Tokely and Grant Munro Areas as they are both antiquated, unwanted,washed out eyesores.

For Oddquine it is hopefully RETIREMENT :lol: :lol: :lol:

As Willie Shakespeare once said to me over a pint in the Avon Arms - "Johndo, expectation is the root of all heartache" but then Studs Terkel added " But my British muckers, I think that it is realistic to have hope. One can be a perverse idealist and say the easiest thing like "I despair. Butcher is no good". Thats a perverse idealist. It is practical to hope for us to survive in the SPL. That is more realistic." But then Private Fraser put it plainly in to perspection.

It could be construed as "ownership" - "giving the fans a say" - "communication" etc., etc.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Rangers fecked up by the Green and Whyte - never thought of that !! Shall we continue to show faith in a Butcher and a Builder ? Baby I know you're asking me to stay Stay Please Please Please Don't go away You say I'm giving you the blues Maybe you mean every word you say Can't help but think of yesterday And another who tied me down to Coaching rules Before this river becomes an ocean Before you throw my heart back on the floor Oh baby I reconsider my foolish notion Well I need someone to hold me But I'll wait for something more Yes I've got to have faith I've got to have faith Before this river becomes an ocean 'Cause I've got to have faith I've got to have faith

Ian Black is "fishing" in a big pond. It is the circle of footballing life that ugly ducklings reared in the Sneck burn may eventually mature into swans in someone else's pond.

Good point and that is how we ended up signing the wrong feckin Niculae :lol: Now that has given me an idea and a way in which fans actually can actually voluntarily support ICT. We have a fan base which spreads across the UK and Europe. I go to quite a few games around the North West and I often think to myself that a certain player may do a job at ICT. I realise that wages, agents etc. also come in to play. What if ICT came up with a proforma / template for information on recommendations for fans and make it as detailed and professional as possible. Then you open up a postal box to receive nominations - stamp paid by the nominee. You then just have a peek at the content, bin it if felt appropriate with no responsibility to provide any response. If there was a degree of interest shown then Marsella could be sent to have a peek or video footage sought from abroad. Of course there would probably be an initial deluge of dross but the detail in the completion should then highlight who is trustworthy and who isnt. The other "idea" which I am surprised has not been followed up is a "link" with a Championship club in England where we pick up the potentials to come through. At different stages I though that this was going to be Sheffield Utd, Ipswich, Wolves and Wigan. The positive "results" in the improvements in Golobart and Davis must have been taken aboard by Wolves and Wigan - perhaps it has - as my brother in law says that there is rumours that at least two more of their first team peripherary are heading to Scotland on loan deals. The manner in which Wigan is run and the football ethic would make them the perfect foil for a "union". Now that is the type of "news" that we really need to give us all a booster injection of the "Hope" drug.

The tale of two wummin !! CallieAnne is presenting the "middle ground", realsitic post with a rationale for expressing for her concern and apprehension (not pessimism in my book). It quite clearly comes from the heart. Oddquine - some more advice from a professional and personal perspective. I am finding that your posts are as negative as others. You are the perfect "target" for the fishermen but you tend to provoke argument and more heated responses by practically highlighting the negativity and feeding the anger and frustration. You are also answering questions with questions in an avoidant manner. If anyone is projecting pessimism it is in your innocently "inflammatory" responses. If I was Warren and read through this then I would be thinking that I would be doing my uptmost to prove everybody wrong. If I was Terry Butcher reading this forum I would be reflecting on some of the "middle ground" posts and taking on board the actual level of frustration that is held by ICT fans - and then using my undoubted charisma to "change" and attempt to bring the "togetherness" back". I also don't think that it matters how long that you have been a supporter or how many times that you watch the club to have an opinion. BUT if you are not witnessing the ineptness of some of the performances and the didtinct feeling that the "togetherness" is dissapating then you dont get the same feeling. I wholly admire season ticket holders as they are paying good money to watch dross. I am sure that many are forking out mainly in hope that things will be changed around. The "events" that have been happening recently have not exactly strengthened the "hope" factor. Their opportunity to voice their fears to an "audience" are CTO and I suspect that when they are challenged back by a "happy clapper" that it only fuels their frustrations and ups the anger value of the probably reactive response. There is no way on god's earth that any fan could profess to feeling comfortable at the moment and having whole faith that it will be turned round, taking in to account finances as well. I concede, with a degree of embarrassment and guilt, that I deliberately avoided travelling to several away games at the close of the season because I was beginning to find it difficult in holding back my anger and frustration of, in my opinion, seeing the same "mistakes" being made over and over again. The increased viewing on Sky and Alba only added to the feckin pain. In conclusion - Tokely is a fine example - He got lauded last season because he always showed 100% committment and was one of very few who looked like he was playing for the shirt, appeared at times to show anger and frustration and always found time to pay "homage" to the travelling support when others trooped off the park, albeit being sometimes reminded to go back by Butcher. Tokely was extolled becos he was "one of us". The other example would be Esson and does he get pilloried other than for making mistakes. If Foran was more personable then he too could acheive such status.

May be useful to remember for post match interviews then.

I believe that Frenchman Kenny Gillet is feeling homesick and wants to look at a club closer to home. He is currently in talks with St Johnstone. I also understand that Irishman Jonny Hayes was also feeling homesick and wanted to move to a club closer to his home. Apparently Ross Tokely said he wanted to go somewhere that reminded him more of Huntly.

O2 O2B O2B a Staggie

It is the first one - the other two have fecked Superman

I think that he is referring to the sticker book.

Most football experts say that it can take 3-4 seasons before a new manager can be truly judged and tends to be aligned with the time to build his own team and system. Butcher inherited a struggling team after the departure of Brewster. He then had a season in the SFL and then a fairly successful one in the SPL where he started his "clear out". Some would say that the injuries and suspensions played their part last season so this is now the season of reckoning.

Feckin merger - it has ruined our ambition.