IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER

Perhaps I am getting soft - but I couldnt really argue with his selection today and we sound as if we were actually "robbed". However I would feel a lot better if we had some good news about the casaulty though.

Who actually gives a feck how many points we end up with as long as we are still in the SPL next season and this season feckin terminates.

Better post match interview from TB - made some good points and really stunned the interviewer with is sarcastic summing up of the referee. The sending off was pivotal and very harsh, we were denied a stonewall penalty and a suggestion that we are going to take out all our anger and frustraion on Dumbfarmlife. He did actually admit that you have to make your own luck and offered the word "we" on a couple of occasions.

Wouldnt it be great if it went to the last game of the season with all three clubs in danger of going down !!

I actually suspect that Butcher may play for a point in midweek. I cant actually point the finger at the selection today but the "togetherness" just appears to have disintegrated which (sorry) but tends to suggest that the dressing room is split. Have to wait for the verdicts of the faaithful but the substitutions are odd to say the least - Golobart for Doran in the 73rd minutes and Tade for McKay in stoppage time !! Our lack of discipline has also cost us dear this season - that is 62 yellows and 6 reds this season - that must be a record too.

Lets just hope that it is because we are playing Hayes and Doran on the touchlines and Foran as a target man - that would allow McKay the space that he has been needing for some time now.

Just like William

I blame Butcher

So much for trying out the yoof - and look at the Killie bench. Rosscoe is the sole Lion Rampart BUT at least it looks like TB has dropped all the loanees going home. It suggests that Williams may be staying and Golobart returning. Great to see Andrew Shinnie back on the bench. Tade on the bench may not be a bad thing either - hope this is a 4- 2 - 2 - 2 system with Hayes and Doran wide and Foran up front. Width and pace mullered Killie the last time. Can see the logic also in bringing back Esson but that is probably Tuffey off in the summer. Cant really argue with that other than I would personally have liked to see Gillet in a wee run as a "libero", Shane in a wee run as an out and out stiker and a sprinkling of yoof on the bench. Also feel sorry for Nick Ross who again I would presonally prefer to Tansey. But I cant criticise Butcher too much for that selection.

I was listening to Talk Sport on the way home from work and the phone in topic was to state what you felt was the best moment and the worst moment that you have expreienced with your club. I could almost immediately think about quite a few best moments but I really struggled to think about a worst moment - which is probably very positive. I will refarin from telling you all what my options were - I had six in competition for the best and only two for the worst and the worst runner-up was not really that bad. BEST MOMENT - Final whistle at the end of the St Johnstone game when we clinched the SFL crown. WORST MOMENT - Final Whistle at the end of the Dumbfarmlife Scottish Cup Semi final. Enlighten me - what are yours ? And you can ONLY list one for each.

Well another successful therapeutic intervention !! And then BornCaley probably comes up with the best feckin post of the whole thread.

Buckett - Lizi - are yer memories fading and your emotional strength weakening. Surely the only emotion that could be experienced other than satisfaction is pity. And Charlie - are you deliberately trying to turn yet another feckin thread in to a feckin pre-merger debate.

It takes a brave man to apologise but - beware - on a forum that could be viewed as a sign of weakness !!

And plaudits to Terry Butcher are due. Plus that gives the impression that we are already thinking about and planning for next season which means potentially that lessons have been learned from the shambles of this pre season. Perhaps Terry has benefitted from his attendance at the Coaching Conference and is takin on board my psychological advice ?

" Grant - When I started my coaching career I rarely attended coahing events like the conference on Sunday., I tended to get bogged down by the day to day of club life, but now I try to get to as many as possible, irrespective of any other committments even though they are quite often a trek from Inverness. They are really good to see, it's a good chance to network and to hear other coaches philosophy of the game."

I know this sounds negative but if Butcher intended keeping him surely he would have given him a run over the last 4 games. Is he not out of contract at the end of this season? Good point - and lets not dwell on the obvious underlying reasons - but he will be playing through the summer, hopefully will be a deffo starter and will come back to us - pre season - ahead of the others in regard to fitness and matchplay (hopefully!!). If he doesnt come back then that is a different story as he does have SPL potential.

Mmm - can you not just feel the internalised anger and tension in the air at the moment ? And who says that football doesn effect people's lives !! Cant wait till the weekend when TB puts out an unchanged team and we get mullered. :lol:

A bit like a Life Support Machine editorial then ?

I could add a separate psychological formulation but I will desist There certainly appears to be a fair degree of internalised anger, possibly exacerbated by living in Lybster. I hope that my brief therapeutic intervention has dissapated some of the anger and promoted the frank realisation that this forum is all about differing opinions and perspectives and not to become overly involved in heated debates. I would love to share a voddie or two with the lass but it would have to be strictly on a professional basis, I have enuff stalkers alredy and the thought of Dougal and Oddquine teaming up scares the sh!t out of me. :lol:

What frustration and anger? What I post on here is simply puzzlement as to why some people who proclaim they are ICT supporters appear to be only ICT supporters as long as they are doing well, and promptly, in the event of poor results become ICT carpers. Supporting, imo, is looking for the silver lining beyond the current black cloud..and not reacting as if somebody has poured the contents of the half full/half empty glass they perceive onto the desert sands to be immediately dissipated into oblivion of the club. .Easily seen you don't post on the political forums I do.......because then you'd know what my frustration and anger really was like. Kinda shows you're you are good at applying theory to unknown and unknowable situations from what you read....which is something I have never denied. I just question as to whether you can do more than spout theory on forums. After all, I am not a "professional" " whatever it is you think you are"....but I have often accused others of having various personality disorders just from the tenor of their posts.....and nothing more concrete than that. I have found it an extremely useful method of getting round the "no personal attacks rule", and also handy because insulting politely means not having to go to the bother of bypassing the swearie filter (though Scottish swearie words do well on US based forums).so I spout theory on forums, as you do......but never claim I have any professional competence to do so....though I do admit sounding knowledgeable is inclined to stop people who buy into the idea that someone knows what they are talking about from responding and continuing the discussion/argument. Well done.......the pills thing is something I, too, very occasionally use when insulting others.....though not a lot, in case it is true, in which case I feel like crap, when folk are offended. I note you are also quite accomplished at assuming.....assuming that others don't consider their posts before making them.......assuming others don't know what they mean when they say/write something.....assuming you can read their minds. Way I see it is that as the years go on, universities have added various faculties to their set-ups to accommodate the latest theories produced by people with vested interests (and to attract students and money). and people, failing any ability to do something useful, latch onto the esoteric..which may make the graduates feel important, but mean nothing at all to the vast majority of the population. From the above, I'd not like anyone to think that I don't think that CBT, DBT and all the new versions invented to "update" them don't have their place...I'm sure they help some,..particularly celebriities who think it is a sign of importance and "self-awareness" and will give them excuses for /thinking behaving as they do. Won't necessarily sort them out......but will make them feel better about themselves. I do rather think that the original importance of CBT, way back, has been denigrated due to the vast extension of personality disorders defined by the AMA and accepted by rote by the UK. The very fact that you can say to Kiltarlity By the way DSM 1V is bit old hat- look at ICD10 instead.... rather proves my point.somewhat. Crap increases where there are people who have a vested interest in increasing crap (which is mostly everywhere in the world today if they can get a grant to fund it or otherwise make money out of it and can persuade other "professionals" to believe it).......and there are enough people who don't do logical thinking and who accept the crap because they think that a university degree implies the writer knows what they are talking about. That concept hasn't worked as long as I can remember with politicians as a truism........why would anyone think it should be a given with any other profession who wouldn't have a profession in the first place if they hadn't first produced a theory out of nothing but their own vested interests? I have read plenty books on all aspects of manipulation of people and the way they think, though mostly not through my deliberate choice, but because my reading matter was limited by that available......ranging downwards in common-sense from the Seven Habits of Highly Effective People to the ordure produced by professional entities who see any deviation from what they consider the norm to be a problem from which they can make money. Perhaps this was more succinct from Mannie !! Oh well, how handy was that!

Nope - becos ma formulation was made many moons ago and the majority of actions tend to support it. "Love doesn't die a natural death. Love has to be killed, either by neglect or narcissism. Those guilty of these two crimes of the heart always hide behind excuses convenient; too ashamed, lacking in integrity and courage to face the truth. To them, it is always something other than their own actions, desires and self-importance that dictate circumstances. For these people, so blind to truth, true love can never be fully experienced for they have never really given of themselves all that they are."

My mate from work who is a dungweller even stated while he hated Caledonian Fc he fully respected them whereas he doesnt hate ICT he merely pities us :lol: Dougal and Charlie B - feckin hilarious peas in a pod. IHE - Discuss :lol:

Joking aside - surely this statistic must sadden most supporters. One of the main things that i was looking for this season was experimentation which was to blood the yoof and give the more locally produced players. TB appears to have tried to go fer "experience", mercenaries, loanees and club hoppers - and that has clearly not worked. I would rather have got beat, trying to play football, watching the likes of the Shinnies, Morrison, Ross, Sutherland plus - to me the biggest boo boo of the lot - McKay-Steven.

There may be a limited repsonse because most of them cant read and most of them will be scared off by the word "university".

Oddquin, I suspect that you feel a lot better for ventilating all that frustration and anger - transference is a beautiful thing. And just consider yourself lucky that you are getting my services for free. To continue though - you may actually be subconsciously referring to Terry Butcher in your second paragraph. I am also sorry that your pills didnt work but CBT or DBT is far more effective an adjunct than mere psychopharmacology. Kiltarlity - this is a feckin football forum not a research publication. By the way DSM 1V is bit old hat- look at ICD10 instead. You may be interested in "Disorders of personality" by Theodore Millon who incorporates the ICD 10 and the new DSM v in his analyses. My personal fave would be "Cognitive Therapy of Personality Disorder" by Beck et. al as it is easy on the eye for the lay-person and looks at the whole spectrum of diagnoses, traits and treatments.