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Caley Thistle have swooped to land 19 year old Roman Golobart on loan from English Premiership club Wigan Athletic. http://ictfc.com/news/team-news/149-roman-on-loan

And rightly so....question everything and then question it again until your satisfied all is as it seems. The days of taking anything at face value, especially in business, are sadly a distant memory.

Oh, I do hope you are right. All these dealings and wheelings are just toooo much for me. Let the "big whigs" get on with it and let us fans just enjoy ICT. These money dealings are not for us fans really, quarter millions etc., shares etc., - if I won the lottery I would be there, but...... It's attitudes like that which have caused the situation football is in today with so many clubs being ripped off and/or going to the wall. Ask the fans of these clubs whether it was a good idea to let the "Big Whigs" just get on with it.

I was thinking along the lines of Tullochs being majority shareholder with approx 750,000 shares and approx 860,00 unissued shares available, then any consortium buying these would become majority shareholder. With the new injection from existing shareholders of approx ?250.000, I'm assuming that the unissued shares now available would be less than 750.000 thus preventing any consortium from becoming majority share holders unless, as you say, the new consortium buy all the shares and the existing shareholders are speculating that, having bought more shares now, then they will get a better return on their investment should this happen. As I said, the Board have the power not to sell shares to someone if they don't want to....so they don't need to buy shares to stop someone else getting their hands on them. I also think they'd be foolish to buy shares thinking they could get more back from them....at best they would get what they paid. What's more, if they were using inside information on the possibility of an offer being made at more than ?1 per share to buy shares for future profit then they could find themselves in serious trouble...you'd have to be a complete idiot to go down that road.

I very much doubt it. Aside from the fact that the board have the power to refuse to sell shares to anyone they like...thus blocking any hostile takeover...Sutherland has already said he's on the lookout for the next person to come along and do their bit for ICT and has as good as said they'd be welcome to the Tulloch shares, it makes no sense for him to do anything that would get in the way of that. My best guess would be that there's a lot of work to be done on whatever deal/deals are being discussed...but the club is in need of a bit of cash now. If you've got new investors looking things over, the last thing you want is to devalue the product...and given the poor start to the season and the problems with injuries etc, then it makes sense to put a bit in to bolster the position. They could have loaned the money...but they then don't have the "debt free" card to play. If any new investor is looking at a "takeover" and wants a majority shareholding then they'll have to make an offer to buy ALL shares, so they get the investment back by taking up that offer. Either that or they have already come to some agreement for the purchase of this block of shares if/when a deal is done. It could, in essence, be a loan done by other means. Nothing dodgy in that, and as it's share purchase then it doesn't put the clubs financial position in any (further) jeopardy as they're not taking on debt. My gut feeling is that the latest "rumour" about someone looking to make a £1 Million investment (not the ex-pats) would actually be a takeover and they'll be looking for a majority shareholding...and as part of the mechanism involved in that (if shareholders allow it) would by the offer to buy all shares. I'd also suspect that talks are at a fairly advanced stage when Directors who were only willing to lend money in the past are now willing to take a risk by buying shares and expect to get their money back somewhere along the line. I would imagine that more information will start coming out fairly soon with the AGM being not that far off.

Can help feeling that they missed an opportunity by not playing Kaiser Chiefs as Tottenham took to the field.

Sorry, was just being a smart erse. Got a text saying "you got nothing to say on forum about the new investment" so I decided just to stick that on to keep them happy.

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Todays Highland News reporting that the decision has not been made as they don't yet know if work will be finished in time.

Confirmed on official website... http://ictfc.com/newsflash/148-north-cup-semi-final

We can stomp and scream all we want - the muppets down at the SFA have made their decision, it makes no difference now. Shows why we are deemed such a dire footballing nation. With the use of extensive replays and video technology the right decision still isnt capable of being made - sarcastic applaud for the SFA. I dunno, stomping and screaming seemed to serve Celtic pretty well last season. Whilst I appreciate we are nowhere near the size of Celtic or carry the same clout, I think we'd garner a fair bit of support from fans of other teams.

I'll hijack this one to add the link for the preview from the official site.... http://ictfc.com/matches/previews/143-preview-dons-v-ict

Flying winger Aaron Doran has been chosen by the Republic of Ireland for their European Under 21 Championship ties with Hungary and Turkey. http://ictfc.com/news/team-news/142-dorans-delight

http://ictfc.com/news/club-news/141-financial-boost

So what the hell have you made all the fuss about then? Were you expecting someone else to waltz in and take up the fight for you? I'm all for fighting a cause, and you may or may not have a point about your circumstances, but if you're not even willing to have a conversation with the right people about it then you have absolutely no room to complain. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the technical term for someone like yourself is a "Shit Stirrer"...in fact, you're so far up yourself the term could have double meaning.

We'll be heading to the Caledonian Golf/Social Club where people are able to get a bite to eat and partake in refreshments before the game. Still seats available for anyone wishing to head through for the game....and our first win of the season!!!

New interviews with Terry Butcher and Graeme Shinnie added to ICT-Radio http://ictfc.com/matches/ict-radio

Go back and read what I said in post #7 The only thing to invest in is the club....there's no assets or the like to be stripped by those who may have other motives so they'd not even be giving us a second glance. In reference to the shares....A, B & C shares are effectively worthless these days. They were once entitled to and carried certain rights in terms of appointing/voting in Directors, but the only entitlement on them these days is the right to speak at an AGM.....not that I would have any idea who would be the "voice" for them as the 600,000 A Shares are listed as belonging to Caledonian Football Club, the 300,000 B Shares are listed as belong to Thistle Football Club and the 3 C Shares are listed as belonging to Highlands and Islands Enterprise. In answer to the question about the "fans shares". Their was 108 shares that transferred from the old Members Club to the Supporters Trust and these carry a preferential/guaranteed voting right of 10% so long as they are held by us (i.e. that preferential right cannot be transferred). The Supporters Trust also hold a further 10,000 Shares that carry normal voting rights. Tullochs have something like 750,000 shares which works out about 30% of the issued ordinary shares and there's about 860,000 unissued ordinary shares....ample scope for a sizeable 6 figure investment without the need to obtain the Tulloch shareholding. (That's all from memory, so I might be a share or two out here and there)

What exactly is it you're looking for or expect to get?

Club were unable to confirm day/time this afternoon when I asked and didn't know anything about the official announcement on the Ayr website. Soon as I know for sure then I'll look at the viability of running a bus....even if it's just a minibus.

I'm on the Trust Board, but I'm not fully up to speed on the discussions which have been taking place between CLAN (Disabled Supporters Association) and the Club. Although CTO is not an official communication point for either, I have made them aware of the thread and asked if they could provide some information.

Where's the "Guaranteed Profit"? 2900 Season Tickets at ?354....assuming everyone ST was an adult = ?1,026,600 5700 Season Tickets at ?150....based on same assumption = ?855,000 No other income stream from the scheme is guaranteed....only assumed. The will already know that, at present, a fan spends an average of ?x per game, but as they're targeting people not willing/able to spend those levels of money at present then it would be dangerous to assume they'll spend anything like the average on a matchday. In fact, knowing that some of the take-up is from people who'll never attend, then the average matchday spend/head is almost certain to drop. I'm not knocking the scheme, just pointing out that it's risky and could easily back fire. However, if it works then great and I hope other clubs follow.

You had to register and pay ?100 before the closing date. After that you have to pay full whack. http://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/page/SeasonTickets

Owain Tudur-Jones requires surgery.... http://ictfc.com/news/team-news/138-shock-op-for-jones