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That's good as the system is suppose to work like that and if your seeing adverts about something being discussed on the page then it's working to full effect.

I'd rather be a Brush than a Comb(e), I'd rather be a Brush than a Comb(e), I'd rather be a Brush, rather be a Brush, I'd rather be a Brush than a Comb(e).

You all do realise that people from the club etc do read this forum? Talk of getting one over on them or whatever is only going to serve to worsen the situation. If you go looking for trouble it's sure to find you. Why not let sleeping dogs lie and just wait to see if the sensible stewarding that emerged continues at future home games?

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I had been swithering between Black and Vigurs for the 5 points, but Black edged it with his goal and also for taking one in the family jewels and (eventually) getting up to carry on.

Happy Clappers need not apply

TCS - 2pm on Tuesday v St Mirren. We're currently sitting 3rd in the reserves league table only 1 point behind Rangers and from what I've seen this season the games are entertaining and a great chance to appreciate some of the younger lads that are coming through the ranks. Well worth the effort if you have nothing else on.

As with previous situations we would have had to had looked at the facts (if any) that appeared in any press articles, the sources etc and then had a discussion among the moderation team to see where any boundary shift on what was open for discussion then rested. We faced similar circumstances with the Hart scenario where we initially banned all discussion, then after the allegations appeared in the press we allowed sensible discussion on it but still removed anything we felt went too far as it was still in the hands of the courts. After the court verdict people were free to discuss the facts which came from that. The problem we have faced here over the past couple of days is that everyone seemed to think that they could come on here and post as they wished on the subject. When it got to the stage where people were ignoring the requests of the moderators and started being awkward and confrontational then the decision had to be made that everything related to the matter had to be removed as it just wasn't possible to have individual discussions on everything. Some posts were caught within that which will not have crossed the line, and whilst that's not ideal, it was inevitable given the volume the guys were having to deal with. In effect we had to kick things into survival mode, I even considered taking the forum offline altogether late last night as I could not be certain that I wouldn't come back this morning to find it was just as difficult as it had been yesterday. Forum moderators are Fans like most other people who use this site and I have to say that I was more than a little disgusted to see that they had been treated with such little regard yesterday. I haven't counted up the posts that have been removed/hidden but I'm sure it's well into 3 figures. We've had all the accusations in the last 24 hours about moderators being Nazis, Trigger Happy, under the influence of the club...we've been called B*stards, C*nts, Idiots, F*nnies, Tw*ts and a whole host of other things....yet we've been extremely tolerant of that and I believe only 3 people who had been particularly awkward and confrontational have received temporary suspension from posting (so far). I can understand and accept that some forum users don't agree with our stance and that they should be free to post as they wish....but it doesn't work like that, and I make no apology for that, nor do I have any desire for it to change. Scotty and I have certain "values" that we try to maintain. We want a forum with users who, for the most part, post and discuss things in a responsible manner. Their may have been room for that on this subject if people had followed the initial requests of the moderators, they could have discussed the existence of a rumour but we would not have allowed ANY specifics to be mentioned....however, certain people gave up that right when they started with the nonsense and unfortunately everyone who might have wanted sensible discussion suffered and the stance, for now, is that it is a no go area and it will remain like that until we have time to clear up the mess that's already been created and can discuss among the team where we go and what we allow from there. Nobody likes zero tolerance, especially me, but that's where we are at for the time being and as we don't have the time nor the inclination to deal with people who wish to be difficult, and if they want to try then they will be dealt with in a manner which is easiest for us right now. All I'm really asking for is that people show a bit of common sense right now. People may not like the situation or agree with how it's been handled, but they must accept that it is as it is, we are not going to move on it as a result of mob rule and the harder they make it for us the tougher we will be on them. If the situation changes then we will, as soon as is practicable, give guidance on what is or isn't allowed. We don't have a crystal ball and know no more than others do, so as much as we would like to say "If it appears in the papers then xyz is allowed" we can't. I'm already a mile behind in getting things like match reports, prediction leagues, stats etc updated because I've had to deal with this, and I would like it if the site didn't suffer any more because of a few people on a witch hunt.

Although there's certain "legal" aspects which have to be taken in to consideration it has never been the policy of this forum/site to allow unsubstantiated rumours about the personal lives of players and staff at the club....even if no legal issues existed we still wouldn't allow it.

I like the idea behind this and once I'm done dealing with other things I will look to see what's the best way to set it up.

Everyone has a warn notice under their name, so long as it's at 0% then you have nothing to worry about.

Something fired the lads on the park up yesterday, I've not seen them play with so much fight in a long time. A thoroughly satisfying attitude from the players which was reflected in the football on show and by the response of the fans in both the Main and North stands.

As much as it may make me sound like a total b*****d, there's no "battle of wills" to be won here. We have always, where possible, tried to respect the private lives of players/staff at the stadium when it came to unfounded rumours. That will not change and if people want to continue to make extra work for the site moderators when we have made it perfectly clear that we will not allow it then they will simply have their posting privileges removed. Our stance on this is not open to discussion or any attempts at "Mob Rule" and the situation will not be allowed to escalate to the position it did yesterday when the few moderators who were around spent more time clearing up after people who can't respect a simple request than they did following the match and having what should have been an enjoyable afternoon listening to ICT winning a game in great fashion. These guys were far more tolerant than I would have been had I not been away most of the weekend and they got no thanks for it from a handful of site users...I won't allow that to continue.

Charging people to use the site is not an option in mine (or Scottys) book, and will never happen.

I think this was a "victory" for both parties and I'd be careful of gloating to the contrary as you might just succeed in p*ssing off whoever further up the chain of command made the call that you (and others who stood in support of you) were not causing any issue and instructed the Stewards to retreat back to their seats. I think what was shown today was that when the Stewards intervene unnecessarily it only worsens the situation and I think everyone involved showed how responsible they can be by not abusing the situation and acting responsibly once left alone. I think if we stand up, sing/chant/bash the drum and then sit down when we're done then we could very well find that any issues that have existed till now will disappear, or at least reduce dramatically. So....let's forget the points scoring and give a big thumbs up to common sense on both sides.

I understand where your coming from, but aside from the fact it's near impossible for us to filter to that level, as I said elsewhere...look at it from the point of view that the OF are helping fund this forum and I just see it as amusing. If we could find another way of funding the site then the adverts would be gone altogether....but we don't have that option right now.

If you wish to discuss it PM me. Thread Closed.

The moderators have made the situation perfectly clear as far as I am concerned. Until such time as their is confirmed or verifiable proof/statements with regards to any indiscretion in a player or ICT member of staffs personal lives then all "rumours" will be removed. It's not open for discussion or debate....that's the way we have always operated and that is how we will continue to operate. If you don't like it then you are free to use the little cross in the top right corner, exit this forum and go start your own where you can set the policies and make the calls. End of discussion....topic closed. If anyone wishes to discuss it further then they can PM me, it will not be discussed further on the forum.

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Does anyone actually want to comment on where they think he is particularly weak as opposed to the blanket "He's crap" throw away comments which seem to have become fashionable? I'm not saying he's great or he should be starting every week, I just want to know if my observations from the reserve games is in any way transferring across to first team this season and if there's any sign of improvement. It's hard to judge on a single game, and a cup game at that, but I just find it bizarre that he can shine so much at reserves and fail so badly when it comes to the crunch...are his downfalls a psychological matter and should we get Johndo on the case?

Can you be more specific about the "several" goals Ross has cost us this season?

Good old selective quoting, gotta love it My statement re Paterson (and I notice you deleted Robbo who was also part of that) was in reference to accusations that my opinions on Brewster were somehow personal and related to the fact he walked out on us the first time round. The point I was making was that Robbo and Paterson also did these things, yet I have no personal grudge against them, so why would I have a personal grudge against Brewster for it? As to Pele, anyone who followed his progress after he left ICT knows that his demise at Aberdeen was not entirely of his own making...and I also believe that the environment at Pitodrie was not the kind which Paterson thrives in. While some of us could perhaps be accused of "dulled memories", others could be equally accused of short ones if they are so quick to forget what he achieved with ICT during his time in charge and think that his managerial ability does not stand up to scrutiny. There's very few managers anywhere who have achieved what Paterson achieved in such a short period of time and on the limited resources available....and he did it all whilst providing great entertainment.

Let's not go down the route of personal attacks and stick to discussing/debating the points in question.

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