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Good man Scotty, site is going like a rocket today..............can you slow it down :015:

Well, my mate Wikipedia said In many countries the term local derby, or simply just derby (pronounced 'dur-bee' in American English and 'dar-bee' in British English after the city of Derby) means a sporting fixture between two (generally local) rivals, particularly in association football. In North America, "crosstown rivalry" is a more common term. For example, the "Tyne-Wear derby" in the north-east of England is Sunderland versus Newcastle United, which can be very hostile and in 1996 led to all fans from each city being banned from the other during derby day. The term is sometimes also used to describe major rivalries in which both clubs have substantial regional or national followings. The phrase may have originated from an all-in football game (Royal Shrovetide Football) contested annually between the two halves of the English town of Ashbourne, Derbyshire. This match has been and still is played on Shrove Tuesday. Another theory is that it originated from The Derby, a horse race in England, founded by the 12th Earl of Derby in 1780. Yet another theory is that the 'derby match' saying arose from when Liverpool played Everton. Their two grounds were separated by Stanley Park, owned by the Earl of Derby. This latter suggestion can be discounted, however. The Widnes Weekly News of 9 March 1889 describes a game between the (rugby) football team of that town and the touring Maoris as 'the local Derby'. This usage was three years before Liverpool FC came into existence. Another widely reported, and somewhat more plausible theory (although not accepted by the Oxford English Dictionary) is that the phrase came about from the city of Derby itself. The traditional Shrovetide football match was also common place in the city. It was renowned as a chaotic and exuberant game which involved the whole town and often resulted in fatalities. The goals were at Nuns Mill in the north and the Gallows Balk in the south of the town, and much of the action took place in the Derwent river or Markeaton brook. Nominally the players came from All Saints' and St Peter's parishes, but in practice the game was a free for all with as many as 1,000 players. A Frenchman who observed the match in 1829 wrote in horror, 'if Englishmen call this play, it would be impossible to say what they call fighting'. Another theory is that the term applies, not to the match itself but to the size of the crowd. In the early years of the twentieth century, the largest sporting crowd in England was at the annual Derby horserace meeting where in excess of half a million people would pack Epsom Downs to watch the race. At that time football matches were attended entirely by 'home' supporters - the concept of the 'away supporter' lay many years into the future as the largely working class crowds could not afford to follow their teams around the country. Supporters watched the first team and reserves who were 'at home' on alternate Saturdays. The only exception came when two teams from the same town played one-another. Then the 'home' supporters of both teams would turn up, producing the largest gate of the season. The term 'local derby' was coined by the press as an analogy to the Derby race crowd. In time the expression came to refer to the match rather than the size of the crowd. The only thing that is generally accepted is that the term is in some way linked to the county of Derbyshire. Derbies usually have a much more heated atmosphere between the fans and often the players of the two clubs. For some derbies, an added source of tension between the two clubs can be political or sectarian rivalry. An example of sectarian rivalry is in the Old Firm derby between the two leading clubs of Glasgow in Scotland. The Old Firm Derby is arguably the biggest derby match in sport, due to the profile of the clubs and their historic rivalry. It should be noted that the Old Firm normally takes place four times per season in the Scottish Premier League, thereby making it a more common fixture than other major derbies. In the matches between Celtic and Rangers, Celtic represents the Catholic population, and Rangers the Protestant population of Glasgow. 'Derby' is commonly used to signify matches between teams in the same town or region, however historical national rivalries, such as Ajax Amsterdam v Feyenoord are sometimes also considered derbies as well as major football rivalries. Ironically Derby itself does not have a football rivalry within the City as there is only one major club Derby County F.C.. At one point there was a rivalry within the city between Derby County and Derby Midland, however the two clubs merged. The main football rivalry is generally seen as Nottingham Forest, a team from the nearby city of Nottingham. Well, Kingsmill, I just don't know.

Some spanking goals last night, none better than David Villa's volley for Spain, right in the top corner swerving off the outside of his left foot as the ball dropped from a great height about twenty yards, superb strike. Karogounis scored two spectacular goals as Greece beat Portugal again, both from free kicks, one direct and one after a short pass, but both thumping high into the net. Also, good to see Boruc shipping three as USA humped the Poles. Holland staged a great comeback to pip Austria 3-4, Jim Vinegar getting one of them. Good old Ribery, some cheer on a gloomy week as England flopped again. Result of the night was Malta 7-1 Lichstenstein..........lookout Brazil, who incidentally beat Sweden in London 1-0, the keeper losing the ball on his left touchline as he attempted to hoof it, and Alexandre Pato being quick witted enough to curl the ball home from the wing from maybe 18 yards from the goal line. Germans starting to come good, thumping the Swiss 0-4 and N Ireland walloping Georgia 4-1, Healy again scoring. Outside of Europe, Egypt lost out to Argentina 0-2 and Ghana lost 1-2 to Mexico. Looks like the Americas are pretty strong. Thought Miller played well for Scotland, and Hutton looked good bursting forward. The Croats are a quality side though, pretty incisive and maybe should have made more of their opportunities, still, 1-1 against one of the top sides in the world will do for now. Well done to the U21 who beat Finland 2-1, their first defeat in this campaign.

Scotty/Don, I am finding the site painstakingly slow tonight. Every page takes between ten and twenty seconds to change, it is a tad annoying. I know it's not the worst it has been, but it certainly is not running at optimum speed. Have the site upgrades been completed or is something needing tweaked?

Connie of course everybody knows that the moon isn't made of the muck, dust and rocks..........it's made of cheese :029:

Booooooo............. :015: Thats definitely the winner :015:

By the way, there is a thread on the non ict board covering the international games tonight. Yes our Marius did score from a simple tap in header from three yards, decent cross set him up. If you play with quality players, you get quality service, unfortuanately he is playing his bread and butter games with ICT.

Mike Frasers save against Celtic, absolutely stunning, breathtaking acrobatics. Thats it though.

Get in there Marius, well done, give the guy the right service and goal it is.

Names are now in the courier online, a 17-year-old appeared in private at Inverness Sheriff Court today charged with murder. Sad days indeed, but the youth of today have gone overboard with daily abuse of alcohol and drugs. You only have to trawl through bebo to see what goes on. Wreckheads are taking over, something really needs to be done about it or more incidents like this will soon be commonplace.

cod liver oil and the orange juice

Can someone help me, I've got powerade coming out ma ears :010:

Keep up to date scarlet. and IHE can fight his own battles, he has been doing it for years.

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What part of I have seen him four or five times with the reserves don't you understand chief? I agree that it would be a waste of time now that he is not going to stay, but others are still getting a game.

Steady Tin Can, you are going too far now wanting to ban alcohol.

The word for today, yesterday, is tomorrow :029: whats the prize :003: Forgot to add..........the word for today, tomorrow, is yesterday :017: I think..............

In fairness to Watt, the Arbroath game was just part of his rehabilitation into the game after long spells out through injury. I too thought he was poor, but gave him the benefit of the doubt. Since then, I have seen him four or five times with the reserves and he has looked better class than the players around him, maybe Hart being the other one to catch the eye. He can't now be any worse than McGuire or Hastings or McBain..............the list is endless. Maybe a game in the first team would do no harm, we are not exactly oozing confidence just now, so another defeat would be no surprise anyway.

No, they should never have been brought here in the first place, dirty stinky smelly filthy items.

Great in depth report, it has made the hammering well worthwhile :015:

Would this be the same goalkeeper that made the save of the century against Celtic. Don't blame Mike for our downfall, it's the manager and the people in front of him that need threir bums felt.

Get that fekkin chip off yer shoulder ya commoner. :blah01:

how true

There are plenty of reasons to sack him, or ask him to vacate the position. The only thing on his CV that looks good is manager of the month in December, not that long ago, but it seems like ages, we have had nothing to cheer for almost three months. What the **** has gone wrong Craig, the club is in disarray and the fans are extremely unhappy. The keep it clean refers to name calling, it's not good.....maybe true, but not the route to go down.

It's just over a mile from the town centre, a brisk walk should get you there in about twenty minutes.