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And you know that how, pray tell? I don't quite understand the mentality of folk who trundle along to someone else's party and proceed to trash the personally invited guests doing the party giver a favour.. Everyone, as far as I can see, knew Brewster would be playing at some stage so if they had a problem with that.why go at all? I'm beginning to think that football fans, after a year and a half on this forum, are the most irrational and nastiest people in the universe.

Do you think.on an ICT fans forum that I don't think he'll be at ict much longer. is going to get you approval ratings? As far as I know, those who could have played u-17 this season yet have been signed on contracts to ICT for two years...as opposed to those u-18s signings who have only a year to show their ability to attract a contract for next season.....and those who will be out of the u-19 criteria at re-signing time at the end of this season with no sure prospect of being picked up by anybody . He may well not stay...but he is here until the end of next season. What he does after that will depend on whether he wants to have the kudos of signing for a big club to sit on benches, or be sold on... or get games with ICT.. Seems to me, given Terry Butcher's "if he is good enough he is old enough" philosophy as illustrated by Nick Ross et al , current youth signings at any level, i f they want to play and be noticed should be sticking with ICT and not joining the Rangers/Celtic/Teams down in England treadmill which mostly exist to produce players with their brand to make them more saleable on the football market.Let's get real.........many big clubs don't take on youth players with a view to anything other than making profit from them and stopping them playing for their rivals. Cynical re the way football as a business works....I most definiely am!

I think he's played the full game in a fair few outings now. Well done to him.

Yes and no, IHE. Coaches aren't sports psychologists and don't have the expertise to embed anything into the psyche of players. That isn't their job. All coaches are trained to do, at whatever inflated level they reach re coaching (note, not psychologist) qualifications, is to teach techniques, encourage fitness, practise set pieces, come up with tactics for games and promote team cohesion etc. They are not trained to sort out the way individual players think. They are trained to work with a body and a brain which is confident in their abilities....and the assumption made by coaches is that every body carries a brain which will respond to a generally applied "you are the greatest so get out there and show them you are". But that is not necessarily useful if eight or nine team members buy it. but a couple of them don't. You can only instill "thinking" into a team as a coach if all the members of that team think the same way, and you know they do. All a team needs to fall apart is one or two pivotal team members who do not have the techniques in place to stop their heads dropping when they make mistakes. Why on earth do you think that most professional clubs, in all sports, have sports psychologists on staff or at least on call? You have a kid with excellent, even superb, technical skills, which if their heads worked as coaches expect, or they have had access to techniques to combat the way their minds worked in place, would produce a player who could be worth millions in this irrationally inflated current football market. But if that kid currently lacks confidence in his own abilities to the extent that every mistake is more reason not to try for fear of making another mistake (and that is ignoring the outside pressure of the reactions of "fans" to inaccurate passes etc), .....or is such a perfectionist that he can't cope with making mistakes and his head drops because he is not managing to live up to his own high expectations..just what does anyone think a coach can do about it? Really? Instilling confidence etc into young players, who could be very good and have the prospect of eventually becoming cash cows for a club, is not the responsibility of coaches except in their ability to recognise those exceptional players who, for whatever reason, have a mindset problem which detracts from their ability to perform as well as they could, because they are not trained to do that. All they should be trained to do is identify the good prospects with problems which can be dealt with by the appropriate help and point them in the direction of the club sports psychologist., if the club has one they can access. No idea if ICT has or not. If you think about it., how often during England's performance in the last World Cup did the commentators and the media say that if Wayne Rooney, one single player, played crap the team would do nothing...and he did and they didn't. .And just what could the England coaches have done about it?

Not really...They didn't play the best they could....but then Keith didn't let them. Is football not a game of two teams.....and not of one team standing there to allow the "better team" to score willy nilly? Did Scotland have an attitude problem against Spain? Is it not about time Scotland spent some serious money and employed a suitably qualified coach who also has a playing pedigree? I take it you are either the mother or girlfriend of one of our U19 squad and I can fully accept you want to defend his position. However, I cannot accept that a SHFL club have more talented players than us nor can I accept that they would be more tactically aware to enable them to "stop" us playing. Sorry, but our boys went out against Keith because they thought that they only had to turn up to win this tie. If the coaches had them mentally prepared (as they should be for ALL games) they should have won comfortably. If Keith FC had better players than ICT, then we don't have the right quality at the club. In either case, where would you lay the blame? Why would you assume that.....I wish, but.it has been a lot of years since I was the mother or girlfriend of anyone under 19? I was at the game because I rarely get down the road when there is a game of any kind at ICT, and I watch what I can access. Did you actually attend the game, out of interest,.or are you just going by the mindset that "this club is not SPL so can't possibly have u-19s who can raise their game to beat a mostly u-17 squad"? Logically, what you are saying is that every time ICT beats any club who would normally be expected to beat them, such as Celtic etc is because the other team has an attitude problem and not that the ICT players have raised their game? Try saying that to the ICT first team squad!. Shucks, with "supporters" like you, who needs opponents/enemies?

Not really...They didn't play the best they could....but then Keith didn't let them. Is football not a game of two teams.....and not of one team standing there to allow the "better team" to score willy nilly? Did Scotland have an attitude problem against Spain? Is it not about time Scotland spent some serious money and employed a suitably qualified coach who also has a playing pedigree?

Much appreciated, Lee. Thank you.

Of course he isn't...he is only 18 and still learning.........and if it weren't for the fact that we have a small squad because of financial strictures...he wouldn't be seriously competing at this level..he would be sitting on the bench waiting until the game was won to get a go on the pitch at the tail end of the game........or getting games once the prospect of relegation was past, and gaining experience that way. Unfortunately, ICT has limited options and has to make the best of what it has available to it.. Beats me how those of you trashing Nick Ross's ability are not out there managing SPL football clubs........because you obviously feel you have more ability to recognise a promising player than Terry Butcher and Maurice Malpas....after only seeing him in three games, while they have watched him in training for the last year or more. And it astounds me that you have the cringe factor to the extent that you will happily trash an 18 year old with three starts under his belt..when, from what I can make out......the only players who were rated better than him in the Courier were Esson, Proctor, Munro and Rooney. Anyone care to start a thread trashing Odiambo, Hayes, Duncan or Cox........who do have the experience....are less lightweight and who performed no better than Nick Ross. No? I thought not! :irritated:

I could have multi-tasked if I had had three phones and an extra hand. The problem wasn't that I don't have an abundance of the stupendous female multi-tasking gene....but that I was at the end of the queue when the technology appreciation gene was being dished out!

I'll dip my toe in the water this year with one, if that's OK. Do I just hit the paypal link at the bottom of the OP.? Thanks for your support - yes just follow the paypal link Away to do it now! Payment sent!

I'll dip my toe in the water this year with one, if that's OK. Do I just hit the paypal link at the bottom of the OP.?

Not a bad week.........a bad evening. Had frozen my bahookey off at the match and missed large chunks of the game because moi......the slowest texter in the world.........was trying to update three different lots of punters all through the game.....and I hadn't worked out beforehand how to do forwarding....so it meant three separate texts every time! As I was standing at the side of the ICT dugout........I don't know if the perpetual mobile phone ringing was irritating them as much as it was me as I tried to watch the game. . By the time I got home, the mobile and me were not friends........in fact I had become quite abusive to it..........and RiG got the tail end of my wrath!

Being fairly new to the forum....and hence to the Sponsorship idea.......how does it work? Do you need 100 ?10 to sponsor Grant Munro fully.......or is it just a nice round number which would give you extra with which to do other useful ICT oriented things? Do the red dots with no names appended mean that those shares have not yet been taken and are still free for others to take up? And is there a time limit on getting involved?

Realised that after I saw the remark about Gordon Chisholm. I'm afraid I tend to go more with the smilies after remarks when I don't know the poster on forums.......plus the memories of other comments like that on here in the past, with as little cause. Maybe a sarcastic smilie would be a good idea!, the Irritated one doesn't quite have the same effect.

Are you mad or what? I seriously hope you jest! His options were what, precisely? I will repeat a post I made on the Peterhead thread..........Maybe so...but don't you think it would be just a leetle shade patronising to put the whole U-19 team in against Wick Academy in the NOS cup.given that with Gil and Foran still not fit, Innes not around and 16 penciled in for Peterhead.that leaves only four players who would get to rest anyway...........and there aren't enough u-19s to make up a team and fill the bench? I doubt anyone is going to get a rest. There was a choice to be made.and it was made....better to get to the next round of the CIS cup and possibly a chance of a big pay day, than the NOS cup, which will gain not a lot more than match practice. And, tbh. Wick is a decent enough team.......play good passing football......and only the terminally over-optimistic would have expected the divine right of winning just because we are ICT.......when we had no option but to put boys in against men. The boys played well.....very well for chunks of time.....worked hard for each other. They missed a few chances......made a few mistakes.............as did Wick..but wick took their few chances, made less mistakes. .... but then they have the benefit of experience.

Maybe so...but don't you think it would be just a leetle shade patronising to put the whole U-19 team in against Wick Academy in the NOS cup.given that with Gil and Foran still not fit, Innes not around and 16 penciled in for Peterhead.that leaves only four players who would get to rest anyway...........and there aren't enough u-19s to make up a team and fill the bench? I doubt anyone is going to get a rest.

Rooney!!!!!!!!!!!! 2-0

Think this is one I might just manage to get to........if I can talk the only person I know with a car into a lift. Buses are a pain in the bahookey if you live in the Caithness sticks!

Well done, lads. I hope you do yourselves (and the Club) proud. in Finland.....but as long as you give it your best shot, we can't ask for anything more.

If we give it a few days..maybe there will be something on the Lossie website.because it is more than unlikely that there will be anything on the ICT site........given I haven't seen any report on the Elgin game yet. If it was their first team...then it was a good result, if you bear in mind that the majority of the U-19 team have only played within their own U-17 age group until today.

1-nil to Lossie.........which, tbh is a darn good result for an U-19 team playing their first competitive match together against a highland league team (though no idea the mix of the lossie team between kids and first team members)

Very well done to the U-16s.......and as I don't remember seeing a thread for the others...well done the U-15s and the U-12s, as well. Not a lot wrong with our youth coaching it seems.

Who on earth runs it within the club? Or perhaps, is it external? Whichever.........it is a joke and an embarrassment! It appears that it is hosted on premiumtv.co.uk, and if you google that you get to here Perform Group Now maybe I'm a bit anal....but I absolutely loathe sites built with flash..so I'm biased before I even get into it. Rangers FC is on premiumtv.co.uk as well........and given that there is loads more info on that site (even if it is bogged down in flash) it does rather look as if it is ICT who aren't bothering to update. You think that ICT is the only business in the world without anybody who is capable of using a computer?

Fair enough in that respect....you should always praise someone for a job well done....but you shouldn't have to gee them up to go out and do that job in the first place. The strongest motivation should be self-motivation because the player wants to win and in a team sport the motivation must be because the players want to win together....and actually earn their pay. Where is their pride in doing their job well? Interesting take on motivation for footballers HERE

This is likely in the wrong place...but feel free to move it. This was brought on by the furore about the England World Cup debacle, and the cries to get rid of the England manager, mostly.....but also the fact that, on many of the forums I read, if not post on, there seems to be some idea that the manger has a responsibility to motivate players. I was brought up in the days when you were paid a wage, and you did a job. It was called work ethic...and seems to have disappeared along with commonsense and a sense of personal responsibility in recent years. You did the job because you were paid the wage to do the job...whether you liked your immediate line manager, or thought he was a waste of space......and whether you thought the person above him was an eejit of the first water or not. The systems put in place may not have been the best ones, or the most sensible ones, in your opinion........but regardless, you did what you had to do to the best of your ability...because that is what you were being paid to do...and heaven help you if you brought your personal problems into the work place and reduced your competency. Why should highly paid, and relatively highly paid footballers have any less of an obligation to give 100% minimum in every game they play? Sure, if the tactics are wrong, then that is down to the manager.....but wrong tactics are not an excuse for not bothering to do your best. Sure the team make-up might be wrong, and not gel as expected, perhaps down to the chosen tactics.....but that does not mean that players shouldn't try to do their best. But why on earth should a team manager, and particularly a National Team Manager, have to motivate his players to earn their wages any more than any manager in any business has to motivate his employees to earn their wages? After all, professional football is a job like any other...hence the "professional".