MrCaleyjag

Craig Whyte in my opinion new exactly what he was doing when he bought Rangers over from Sir David Murray, he in my opinion looked at a business that was facing some massive debts namely the 'big case' with the HMRC and had it all in his mind that he would run the club into administration in order to strip the club back, get rid of the debts owed and then sell the club on to one if his other companies and then overtime take the club back through some legal loophole.

Look at what he has done with other companies, he's a man who steps into the helm of an ailing business, puts them into administration and then makes his money from it. I think he massively underestimated just how much public interest there would be in Rangers going into administration and the close scrutiny that would be put into it by all involved and all in the media.

Rangers have massive assetts not to mention Ibrox Stadium that would be one of the very last things to be sold off to service debts not to mention that the main stand is a listed building which hikes up the value, even if the club is stripped back and left to the bare bones with the debt serviced Ibrox Stadium still remains an asset and that alone would give him his money back and more.

it's no coinsidence that one of the administrators has had a seat in the directors box since Whyte took over and it would not shock me to find out that Whyte was seeking the services and advice from administrators from the minute he stepped foot into the club, from the outset of administration it is usually clear whether a club/business will survive and they came out within a matter of days and said that they see no reason why Rangers cannot continue on as a club now and for the future to come. Also it's not as easy to suddenly get administrators in to take up the case especially in the circumstances that came about on Tuesday with the HMRC calling it to the courts, this in my opinion also shows they have been there in the background ready to take up the administration as and when it happened.

Yes the administrators are answerable to the courts but lets be clear about it, they are a business in their own rights and stand to make a tidy little amount from the administration of Rangers not to mention taking them out of it which will ultimately happen.

The 'big case' with the HMRC is a bit of an unknown to all and the totals are not really known, I have read that the unpaid tax bill is £24m with about £12m interest added on then fines to be added on top of that decided by the courts but then that's only rough but where it looks favourable in certain ways for Rangers even if they lose the HMRC have came out and stated beore the administration that they would allow Rangers to make servicable payments to the debt to allow them to continue trading as a club, all of tyhis Whyte new but he has backed himself into a massive corner with what he has done since he took over the club and clealy any leway that the HMRC where willing to go to may now be severly strained.

There are two people to ultimately blame for the problems that Rangers face, Sir David Murray and Craig Whyte - DM from the ridiculous bad management during his term and CW for the way he has run the club since he took over, one thing I would say in DMs defence is that he always maintained that he would only sell Rangers to who he believed was the best man that had the best interests of the club to heart but his hand was forced by the bank and he was made to sell up hence whyit went for £1 as CW took over the £18m debt. Rangers at the time were actually servicing that debt well and reducing it quite considerably monthly but not quick enough for the bank which now makes the whole situation even more ludicrous and so difficult to understand.

It's no coincidence that he sacked half of the old board after taking over including a very influencial Martin Bain who is much reveared in what he does and steared Rangers almost single handidly for 3 years before CW took over. Was it that they knew exactly what CW was going to do or what he had in mind and didn't agree with it or didn't want part of it and threatened to blow the lid on his plans? No one knows but it all looks very very suspicious.

I would not be surprised to see Martin Bain back at Rangers in some capacity after CW has moved on after the administration with a new board and owner in place because there is no way CW can continue in the capacity he has, not to mention the fact that he could soon be facing criminal charges should any wrong doing be discovered which looks ever inceasingly likely.

I'm not sure winning a case because witnesses didn't show up to court really constitutes a 'great result' in my eyes.

Sorry exCaley player or not, if your caught in possesion of any type of drugs then you deserve the punishment that comes to you, just because he's a footballer doesn't make him immune. Yes you'll say it was only alledged however for cases to go to court, and pardon the pun, there has to at least be some substance to it.

It's not a case of brining in more players to make us go bust. We've got a lot of players who might well not be renewing contracts at ICT. If Golobart, Williams, Gillet, Piermayr, Proctor and Tokely all leave at the end of their contracts, we'll have to bring in players from somewhere. Why not look at the likes of Perry then for the back four if he's released? Sure, he might be kept on. But he might not. Nothng wrong with keeping an eye out.

I agree with what you're saying however you base this on players leaving at the end of the season and us needing players then for the forth coming season, Rangers don't have until then and need to act now and shed the load on them now. Players like Perry and Ness will never be available come the end of the season should they be released from contracts now as other bigger teams who can afford them now will make their move and bring them in as free agents. That is what I based my opinion on

We've all seen the ramifications of living outwith your means and we all know also how tight the purse strings at ICT are so do we really want to see them burst or stretched to the full just because some players may be available?

I can see why people are discussing about certain players that the administrators at Rangers will terminate contracts off but tbh honest I see none of them that will either be in our league or will even come upto the Highlands. We are talking abouts players like Laffertey, Papac, Aluko and Healey due to the short length of time left on their contracts and also players like McGregor, Davis, Naismith and Goian due to the possibilty of bringing in transfer money from them.

I see no reason for the administrators to get rid of promising youngsters who would be on a wage that would be seen as sustainable for Rangers from now and the future, they need to if they want the club to continue on in the current format set proper foundations down and these players people have spoken about are the very ones that they will probably start these foundations with. Even if they try to keep some of the bigger players I still don't see players like Ness, Hutton and Perry being let go over players like McCulloch and the above.

I personally would rather see ICT stay strict with their budgets and push on with the business model they have and not jepordise that for one or two players who we wouldn't ultimately have looked at should this situation not have come around as they would have been outwith our reach. At a time when people are talking about Rangers being extremely stupid and short sighted we would be doing the very same in essence if we broke our own boundaries because of someone elses misfortune and mismanagement.

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Annan @ 2.37 please

Is this just lazy journalism? Has he been looking at the suggestions on other threads for livening things up on matchday or is it a coincidence?

It has been bourne on the back of him (Chick Young) being in Inverness on Monday night at a question/answer session with Terry Butcher and John Hartsson, I don't remember where it was held, but got the low down on it from Calyejag's Dad who was at it and by all accounts it was very informative and a good night. It's no coincidence that this then appears in the press a day or two after it, maybe he was struggling with something to report on or maybe it was due to his conversations with TB on the night.

I agree with Kirishima that the more extra exposure ICT can get the better however I stand by my original post about Chick Young.

Chick Young is the last person I would be helping with regards to anything let alone finding us an 'official anthem' - he can't even get the 'wee genteel ditty' as he puts it correct.

As far as I am concerned he can sculk back down to the central belt and cuddle up to his OF friends like he usually always does while trying to fake being a St Midden fan

I see where your post is going and it's not a dig at you, I just can't be done with the man, he'e so false and no one else is allowed an opinion when talking to him - just listen to BBC Scotland every Saturday or midweek and you'll hear what I mean.

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Brechin @ 2.20 please

Cowdenbeath @ 2.00 please

Should Rangers go to the wall, in my opinion, the biggest loser in the whole situation would be Celtic, it's ironic that the two biggest rivals in our game massively depend on each other and without one the other would have no or very little influence on the structure of Scottish Football. They may not come out and say it but the power men behind the scences at Celtic Park will be quaking over the thought of Rangers going bust.

We all know the money they generate is based around the fierce rivalry that exists and that also goes for the tv money that is generated through the SPL as well, without the 'big two' as they are put there is no way anyone would pay what they pay for Scottish Football tv rights. It is also not just down to money, when it comes to voting on certain issues with the SPL both Rangers and Celtic more often than not vote the same way and this is how they have managed to monoplise the distribution of tv money and sponsorship, without one of the other neither would be able to dominate decisions anymore and no more would the smaller clubs be scared to actually vote the way they want to. Look how ICT were treated when they voted no to the ten team league last year, it was a case of how dare you etc etc. Imagine a scenario where everyone gangs up on Celtic, they wouldn't know how to handle it and then we would see the toys thrown out of the pram but maybe that's what is needed. The same would be said if the roles were reversed and Celtic were in this situation.

For the other teams I see it as a blessing and I am sure that behind closed doors a lot of the big men involved in the other teams would see it as a good thing, I believe Celtic would continue to dominate for a few years after however slowly that gap would close as other teams would grow whereas Celtic would be the only team that would decline due to lack of money. The distribution of tv money is key to the whole thing and even a little extra for other clubs would make it possible for them to grow. Yes the money would be significantly less but with a better distribution the other teams wouldn't see a difference and if they did it would be minimul as what they get at the moment anyway is peanuts compared to Rangers and Celtic.

Gone are the glory days of Europe for Scottish teams and UEFA themselves have shown they are not interested in the smaller nations so putting that aside it may be the blessing that Scottish Football needs to completely tare everything up and start again and it may also serve as a warning to others as to the consequences of not running a club properly. I would not be surprised if Hearts go the same way, ironically again without Romanov they would be facing exactly the same issue but due to different financial reasons, it's only him having money that keeps the bank from calling the debt in.

From what I have read, know and see the only two clubs that really run their camp without really going into too much debt is ICT and St Johnstone but the rest certainly have debts beyond their means as well as running at a loss every year unless they can sell players to make ends meet, look at Hibs and Dundee Utd.

After all this though I don't see Rangers going bust, I see them going into administration before that just in order to stave off seeing the club going down, alone Ibrox is worth more than the tax bill is and if it really came to it and everything was stripped down, shipped out and sold on that would be the last thing to go, it might not be what they want however it might be needed. The very thought of administration for Rangers might even be enough for other clubs to start standing up for what they believe in and use the fact Rangers aren't the club they once were to shift the power once and for all.

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Terry just confirmed on the radio that Lee Cox is on his way, a fee has been agreed with Swindon. Personally I think it's a shame as I genuinly believe he had a lot of potential and wanted him to stay a bit longer but money talks, lets hope we get a decent fee for him if the deal is concluded.

I haven't read the rest of the posts today but getting over the disappointment of not winning a game which sounded like we were the better with more chances it is good that we have stretched the unbeaten run, kept another clean sheet and sounded like we were better overall than St Mirren. I suppose it shows that we are progressing this season when we are sitting disappointed not to be winning a game like todays where a few months ago a draw would have been a great result.

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Peterhead @ 2.75 please

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Stranraer @ 2.20 please

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Montrose @ 2.37 please

I'm sure I read in the Sun yesterday a short article about Wolves wanting to take Davis back in January as there is interest from various Championship sides that would result in better experience for him, in their opinion, and also means that he is closer to them should they want to recall him.

Glad Roman is staying on until the end of the season, along with the fact he has come on leaps and bounds it also means we don't need to go out and look for someone else who we would have to intergrate into the team and squad as well, it always takes a bit of time for someone to settle in and with a January signing generally that time isn't there and they need to hit the ground running.

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Peterhead @ 2.62 please

Excellent result at a great time of the year against a team that to be fair have had some decent results over the last couple of weeks and stops us from becoming firmly adrift near the bottom considering the other results from today.

I always think we're a better team when we have games thick and fast and was convinced that if we had won today we would be able to carry some great momentum into the festive games and hope that it will help us on Wednesday against Hibs, the less time we have to think about games the better it seems to be for us.

Will enjoy todays success over Christmas and revel in the fact that I can gloat when I go back to work on Wednesday as I'm surrounded by flocks of diluded ''we're the third force in Scotland'' supporters.

Bit of a naughty one by Lee McCulloch, elbowed the Saints player in the box and got sent off. Not sure I am used to all the games kicking off at different times though