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The Professor is right Craig. I hope you learn the lesson and take note of the report.

Good ol' Auntie Beeb... We lost

...Dargo and Wyness have started for St Mirren in their game against Celtic today.

I hate to see any team go the wall but I feel there may be a few more 'Gretna's' over the coming months / years as football continues to price itself out of the market. I like Livvies ground and wished we had a stadium like that - it they do go to the wall can we have their ground please.

Stenhousemuir to win please @ 1.70

I'm not a flash as CD..... DIV 1 Airdrie Utd v Ross County 2.40 3.40 2.40 Dunfermline v Morton 1.60 3.60 4.50 Partick v Livingston 2.20 3.50 2.62 Queen Of South v Clyde 1.61 3.60 4.33 DIV 2 Alloa v Queens Park 1.95 3.50 3.10 Arbroath v Stranraer 2.25 3.40 2.60 Ayr v East Fife 1.90 3.50 3.20 Peterhead v Stirling 1.72 3.60 3.75 Raith v Brechin 1.90 3.50 3.20 DIV 3 Annan v Elgin 1.95 3.60 3.00 Berwick v Cowdenbeath 3.80 3.60 1.70 Dumbarton v Albion 1.66 3.60 4.00 Montrose v Forfar 2.05 3.50 2.87 Stenhousemuir v East Stirling 1.70 3.60 3.80

Nice fancy odds table but I can't cut n paste the darn thing..... Stranraer v Alloa the Draw please at 3.50

Don't do that....!! When I saw the title of this thread one thought went through my mind...they'd moved the fixture. Phew!!!

I did - on the matchday thread Aye, but he's made the same mistake time and time again this season. Do we not think it's about time he got it right at the start of the game and not wait until HT or even the last 20 minutes?

Well, the rot has finally set in for me. Alloa was the best draw out there but Stirling blew. Must have been a great game though at 4-3. I was, initially, going to stay 'safe' and pick Queen of the South

Nice meaty local derby.... Alloa v Stirling the Draw please at 3.50

There is currently no great incentive on the playing field at the moment that's for sure. ....and Coventry Nil.

DIV 1 Airdrie Utd v Livingston 2.50 3.40 2.30 Dunfermline v Dundee 1.83 3.50 3.40 Partick v Clyde 1.66 3.50 4.20 Queen Of South v Morton 1.57 3.60 4.80 St Johnstone v Ross County 1.61 3.60 4.33 DIV 2 Alloa v Stirling 2.37 3.50 2.37 Arbroath v Brechin 3.30 3.60 1.83 Ayr v Stranraer 1.44 4.00 5.50 East Fife v Raith 2.50 3.60 2.25 Peterhead v Queens Park 1.66 3.60 4.00 DIV 3 Annan v Montrose 2.80 3.60 2.05 Berwick v Albion 2.30 3.40 2.50 Cowdenbeath v Elgin 1.44 4.00 5.50 Forfar v East Stirling 1.83 3.60 3.30 Stenhousemuir v Dumbarton 2.05 3.60 2.80

In my view the buck stops with manager. Yes, we can blame the players for not performing but they are playing to the instructions of their manager are they not? They are told to play a certain system and they will not be able to use their initative on the field to change it, that's the managers job. The manager is also the person that picks the team. He is also the person that drops players who are perfoming and plays those that arn't. If players are demotivated them the manager should be able to recognise that and correct it.

West Brom' Albion had their shirts embroidered with a poppy for their game last Saturday. The shirts were being auctioned off after the game with the proceeds going to the British Legion.

Livingston @ 1.66 please.

Can't stand either on um....and how anyone can find Brand funny is beyond me. Takes all sorts I suppose.

Cracking game in north London tonight....finished Arsenal 4 Tottenham 4. Some great goals too....hope our boys were watching..

DIV 1 Dundee v Airdrie Utd 1.90 3.50 3.20 Dunfermline v St Johnstone 2.40 3.40 2.40 Livingston v Morton 1.66 3.50 4.20 Partick v Queen Of South 2.50 3.30 2.37 Ross County v Clyde 2.00 3.40 3.00 DIV 2 Arbroath v Ayr 3.00 3.40 2.00 Peterhead v Brechin 2.50 3.40 2.30 Queens Park v East Fife 2.62 3.50 2.20 Raith v Alloa 1.50 3.80 5.00 Stirling v Stranraer 1.70 3.60 3.80 DIV 3 Albion v Cowdenbeath 3.40 3.60 1.80 Dumbarton v Berwick 1.60 3.60 4.50 Elgin v Forfar 2.62 3.50 2.20 Montrose v Stenhousemuir 2.50 3.40 2.30

Relegation would definitely be a disaster for our club. Yes, we have succeeded before in the lower divisions but I doubt we'd cope again. Relegation would see the squad being decimated and there would, almost certainly, be a return to part-time football. It doesn't bare thinking about.

In the cemetery I saw four men carrying a coffin round and round. 3 hours later I saw them again and I thought to myself, They've lost the bloody plot!

Great thread this.... Some very good points being made here but I think the crooks of the matter is football, generally, is pricing itself out of business. I also believe the weather does have an effect on games especially if we aren't playing well and also if we are taking on 'lesser' opposition. I also believe the way supporters get treated is a factor for some too. To pay your expensive entry fee to be watched like and hawk and treated like a leper makes folk think twice. You are also treated like a naughty schoolboy/girl and told to sit down (yes I know it?s a 'rule' that we have to adhere to) by over enthusiastic stewards who are on a power trip. Just imagine being treated the same way in major retail store, you wouldn?t be too pleased and would, probably, never return. Football today is big business and this ?big business? needs to take a good look at itself and see how it can improve the way it looks after its customers but for the life of me I can?t ever see that happening. The good old supporter will continue to come along and turn out his/her pockets for the club of their choice, but, for how much longer is anyone?s guess.

Our squad may be fitter under Craig's managment but fittness doesn't seem to be getting us points on the board. It also doesn't matter if we lose by the odd goal or whether we lose by 6 goals it equals the same points - zero.

Darn disgrace sacking Ramos, I thought he was doing a great job a Spurs And as for Harry, well, he is just a money grabbing cockney. Those Pompey fans must be really baying for his blood now.

Aye Alex, there is a chance we may go there and get a result but for the life of me I can't see us scoring. And our defence will not be able to keep them out. I'd love us to go there and grab the three points - I just can't see it happening.