Gregor

4 hours ago, TheMantis said:

If you had any scientific training you would use goals/game, not the other way round. No of games is the controlled variable. Using your way, high score = poor.

So White is 0.30 goals per game. You might think that's OK for a striker. Where your argument falls apart is that White is a main striker, not a supporting striker. 

Also, he's just about a Championship level striker, but his best seasons have been in the lower leagues. I asked you before, how long you had been watching the team, and you didn't answer.  I  don't think you've ever seen any good ICT strikers so you've got nothing to compare White against.

Some of the players you mention played in the Premier so your figures are skewed.

Rooney - only played one season in the Championship, 0.59 goals/game. The league's top scorer.

Mckay played all his games for us in the Premier. So did Storey. Even at that, Mckay got 0.38 and Storey 0.35 the last season they were here.

Season 2009/10 Richie Foran 0.40 second to Rooney.

Season 2003-4. Hislop 0.42, Bingham 0.40, Ritchie 0.52, Wilson 0.41

Season 2002-3 Wyness 0.61, Ritchie 0.47 and yet we were only 4th.

Haven't got figures for previous years but Wyness/Ritchie/Wilson/Robson/Shearer/Christie/Sheerin  will all be up there.

I appreciate the effort big Jordan puts in and always encourage him at matches but get real

Only quoted the six players from recent times career stats 

Yes if you take Storeys and Whites time here at Inverness on its own  then you are correct

Storey 0.36 or 1 goal in 2.78 games

White 0.31 or 1 goal in 3.22 games 

However football isnt just about one season its about a career and over a career Whites stats are consistent and  decent.

I mean if you were looking at Stevie Mays stats over last 5 seasons 85 appearances 8 goals is only 0.09 goal per game or 1 goal in 10.6 games. Not an outstanding ratio at all. 

But lots of football fans would love to have him at their clubs. This must be  based on his total career stats of 256 appearances 90 goals which shows a ratio of 0.35 goal per game or 1 goal in 2.84 games.

So I think I was quite correct to look at individual players total career stats rather than a snapshot of their career.

Would love to go 442

But with slightly different team

Ridgers

Rooney Donaldson MCCart Tremarco

McGregor  Vincent Doran Walsh

White Keatings

On 8/12/2019 at 8:16 PM, MorayJaggie said:

16 goals from 52 appearances not exactly a great return 1 goal every 3 games for your Main striker.

I disagree

let’s have a look at past and present strikers career stats

Rooney 435 appearances 180 goals 1goal every 2.41 games

McKay 385 appearances 128 goals 1 goal every 3 games

White 366 appearances 109 goals 1 goal every 3.35 games

Keatings 199 appearances 54 goals 1goal every 3.68 games

Todorov 110 appearances 18 goals 1 goal every 6.11 games

Storey 217 appearances 32 goals 1 goal every 6.78 games

I think there is a total misconception that around a goal every 3 games is bad.

The reality is it’s really quite a decent return for a striker especially on the money we as a club can afford to pay.

A good listen once again on way to Saturdays game

Thanks to to you all.

What a terrible performance , only positive was Dundee were not that much better and could only win by one goal which Ridgers should have saved easily.

1 hour ago, Biggin said:

I am not lucky enough to see the games and have only the BBC text to follow the game and for me Todorov has to start ahead of White, whilst White might get a goal he has many chances that he does not convert . Todorov with much less playing time has scored the same amount of goals so  he has to start.

Tonight's game much harder than many expected and have to give credit for coming back from 2-1 down to win the game. Raith did is a favour tonight in beating Peterhead so now it is down to us Win on Saturday and we are 

 Think White is the guy who I would contnue start with atm.

But its good we now have another player to come on as sub

White has scored 18 goals for us and its just not about his goals. his workrate hold up play and bringing others into play is integral to how we play.

Tonight wasnt his best performance but it wasnt any players best performance to be fair.

But we won and thats what matters 

Im just happy that we have another striker to come into the team as a replacement for White as an impact player and the team dosent suffer from it as it did when Austin replaced him last season.

Personally think White is the starter and Todorov is the impact player

1 hour ago, Bronson said:

Would love to see mcgregor and todorov start on 

31 minutes ago, Robert said:

Thanks for that. So really we started our top 11 other than Welsh. 

Sunday will let us see how we are likely to cope in the league. 

Peterhead and Cove are decent teams, probably better than the leagues they are in, but if we deal with Dundee we can be reasonably confident about the league season. 

If we don’t, particularly if they are clearly better than us, it could be squeaky bum time. Hopefully not!

 

Well the arabs got beaten by east fife so early season games are not always good indicators

Have to agree with Moray Jaggie, would start with same team as saturday 

Was a good listen

Well done guys

4 hours ago, CELTIC1CALEY3 said:

Peterhead will surely beat Raith

 

 

Maybe not 

I agree with Robbo when he said 4-1 was a bit hard on Raith

Got a feeling they will get something from Peterhead game

23 hours ago, caley100 said:

Winning 4.-1 is great but a pretty unconvincing performance I'm afraid.  Lot of scrappy play,   Not much interplay between Keatings and White to talk about if 4 4 2 is going to be the setup.  

We didnt play 442 yesterday  it was a 4231 formation.

Lots of positives going forward yesterday just need to tighten up at the back where we were as you say a bit scrappy at times.

Another defender would be a decent addition

Would prefer him to be able to play right back as Todorov can be played at centre back.

That would allow Carson to be used in midfield where he will be most suited imo from what Ive seen so far. Looked good in St Johnstone game

7 minutes ago, Satan said:

I think for most of the match we were going up and down the gears quite well,  looking dangerous without converting in the first half - although we let Raith into the game just before half time. Raith started well in the 2nd, while we still had our feet up! They worked a good goal which kick started us into life, and the response was instant. Domination for the rest of the match, plenty  good interplay in the attacking areas with a few missed passes to be expected from the new faces. A fine late goal from Todorov making the score more respectable. 

Positive signs all round, not sure what happened at Peterhead.

Roll on Cove.

Good summing up 

Peterhead are no mugs as they drew with Dundee too.

4 hours ago, Satan said:

Another issue to bear in mind is with regards to the pre season he squad has been split in two groups for a lot of the early games. I think that does hinder the performance in the first few meaningful games with regards to players getting used to their role in the team, this includes the players from last season if we are trying new formations as well.

 

I think that is a very good point re playing two different teams in early games

He is a decent player no doubt about that but not sure if title is signed sealed delivered.

Thanks for the report Stan 

Just watched the video of the goal and it looks like White who flicked on the ball for the goal ,said that on twitter too.

Great result tho. 

21 goals scored over 4 games

11 different scorers

All the forwards bagging 3 a piece

Decent workouts to start the season 

Next couple of games will be intetsting v Dons and Jambos

39 minutes ago, Alan Simpson said:

No fishing with this 1 brother crazy to hang on to players like that if there's cash on the table tho I smell major BS ! Whites got better but him and Traff are still pretty limited players be willing to take my chances without them nxt season!

Got to admire you 

Keep iit up

20 hours ago, Alan Simpson said:

There's no way any club would pay for that pair if wev rejected any kinda decent money that's crazy stuff !  On another note glad Robbos addressing our glaring problem up top at long last

Different season

same old fishing from Alan

and to think I used to take you seriously 

Have a fishing friendly season Alan

20 minutes ago, ictchris said:

Our current best XI?

-----------------------Ridgers--------------------

--Mckay---Donaldson--McCart--Tremarco--

----------------Trafford-----Welsh-------------------------

---Doran--------Vincent----------Walsh--------------

--------------------White------------------------------------

 

Maybe Keatings could play in the Vincent role and JV could slot in alongside Welsh rather than Trafford?

That’s where I think Robbo will play Keatings maybe he is the guy to replace Polly

Tough start but hopefully pay back time

14 hours ago, Alan Simpson said:

Who the hell is that an extra from Chernobyl some of the posters on here are unreal slate miles Storey and yet hail this unknown as some kinda neymar like coup that Robbos has somehow on his budget of 2 buttons and an apple core pull of! Where's Gregor when u need goal scoring and shot ratio stats??

Fill your boots sir

Stats from Soccerway

I have also added Miles Storey just to see how he fares against our 4 signed  players .Just to clarify the goal ratio is I goal per the number of starts or appearances so obviously the lower the ratio the better performance from the individual player.

Sometimes we go with our gut feelings about  a player but ultimately its the stats, especially with strikers, that should decide who we sign and play in the team.

We certainly have good experience in White and Keatings and back up with Todorov and young Daniel so looking decent for the start of the season.

Looking forward to even more signings and first game of the season.

7 hours ago, Alan Simpson said:

Has Gregor been transferred no heard from the fella in ages ! Maybe he's a big Jordan Whites wedding the moz??

Aw its nice to be missed 

Feel all emotional now

1 hour ago, WYNESS101 said:

Why would White go to Partick? 

We are building a decent squad with a good set of players here. Reaching Semi and getting in to play offs. As for Partick they spent most weeks down at the wrong end of the table. I'm sure Caldwell will have another rebuilding job to do over the summer.

I agree with you about White going to Partick ,I’m sure he wouldn’t but the club could accept a bid for any player atm.

5 hours ago, Alan Simpson said:

I hope not defo not the standard of player we should be looking at ! Would rather stick with the traffic cone!

Maybe he is coming in to replace White as I’m sure I read on P&B that Partick are very interested in White.