Gabby

The first thing I will say is hear me out. When I say dissolve, I mean restructure but there wasn't enough room in the title. Let there be no mistake, newco Rangers will be in the SPL - money always wins over ethics in football. That's why Qatar will host the World Cup - it's how football works. So let;s run with this because for the first time the other SPL members have some real bargaining power and they should exercise it. At the end of the day while Chairpersons of other clubs are saying that Newco FC can't play in the SPL, the Chief Financial Officer of each club is saying something different. So for the first time in SPL history, the other 10 clubs have real power and they should exercise it. First and foremost the revenue sharing inequity must be fixed. The new entity would need to assess the total amount that would be paid to member clubs, for the sake of my argument, let's call this total amount Member Grants. 70% of this should be paid to members at the start of the season. Each member should get an equal amount of this pool. 30% of this should be paid as prize money according to where you finish on the ladder. Secondly, this is an opportunity to give the other clubs more say in the future in the league. Instead of 11 out of 12 member votes to change the rules, change it to 9. Therefore a two thirds majority is required. This is a massive opportunity - please use it. Discuss

The only way that would work is if a league had a fixed salary cap. And the only way if would be effective is if every football league has a salary cap. Salary caps or wage limits are incompatible with leagues that have relegation because teams will risk breaking the cap to avoid relegation. Wage limitation is also very easy to get around by clubs. instead of paying players directly, they would have sponsors or other third parties make payments for them. It would create more problems than it solves. I have seen articles suggesting wages be limited to a percentage of turnover. while this is good in theory it just perpetuates the strength of wealthy clubs. We have salary caps for all professional sports in Oz and the experience has been that they are very difficult to police. Every incident of serious breaches have been uncovered by excellent investigative journalists rather than the governing bodies of the sport. I will stick my neck out with a prediction. In the next 10 years wages growth in football will be negative. There are just too many clubs in the major leagues that are hanging on by a thread. There only needs to be a hiccup with TV money and the whole house of cards comes down and it will be the Spanish or Italian league that goes down first.

It's not just that though, is it? On top of needing defenders and forwards, we also need midfielders who can dictate a game. Where was our midfield against Dundee Utd? It's a whole damn team we need, not just a few players. In defending our midfield they spent the entire game watching the ball sail over there heads, the only opportunity they had to touch the ball was by tackling opponents. ESPN interviewed TB about two thirds through the first half and I was concerned that he was very happy with the way we were playing. I'm not entirely sure what he was watching.

That's gold!

I was going to mention Danny Invincible or Eric Partaluu as the Aussies.

I have spend the whole day grumping over stupid, little things. There is nothing like a brave, generous child to put things in perspective. Thank you Marc and well done mate.

Brilliant, we will get Matty McKay back in Brisbane for free. He was too good for Rangers anyway.

When Criag Whyte took over a Rangers he agreed to clear the known debt of 18 million pounds. At the point he became a secured creditor of Rangers. As a secured debtor his 18m is safe. It will be interesting to see where all the missing money is. There is no logical reason for Rangers not to pay this years VAT etc especially since (by his own reckoning) is cost 4.5 m pounds to run Rangers each month and a history of Rangers revenue (even conservativley measured) would easilly exceed this. If I was a suspicious person, I would think that the mortgaging of future season ticket sales would provide the liquidity to immediatly secure his original 18m pound investment. If I was a really suspicious person I would think he was preparing for asset stripping.

Sorry Caley D I think you misunderstood. I meant that the total value of the TV cash would be 10% of of the current TV deal. In other words ICT may receive a larger proportion of a much smaller pie. The net result would be reduced TV cash for all clubs with the possible exception of Celtic. In saying that, while there would be some short term pain, I think it would result in a much better, competitive league in the long term. Nah, I understood, was just being a little facetious because the suggestion that an SPL without a dominant Rangers (and Celtic) would be worth 10% of it's current value is a tad ridiculous. Ok 10% is probably a bit low, I concede. However they would be lucky to get 40% of the existing contract even taking into consideration the small current deal.

Here is a really good article that explain this situation: http://www.heraldsco...l-club.16648763 And here is an even better article: http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/the-flawed-logic-of-the-scottish-medias-stance-on-rangers-troubles/

Must admit, while watching the game on Setanta I thought me NPL crowd prediction was about 1000 to high.

Sorry Caley D I think you misunderstood. I meant that the total value of the TV cash would be 10% of of the current TV deal. In other words ICT may receive a larger proportion of a much smaller pie. The net result would be reduced TV cash for all clubs with the possible exception of Celtic. In saying that, while there would be some short term pain, I think it would result in a much better, competitive league in the long term.

Are you Craig Whyte is disguise? This makes no business sense whatsoever. Say a club currently gets 4000 fans a games at say 20 pounds per head, plus TV cash. Then Rangers go bust and clubs are forced to survive on say 10% of the TV money (if they can even attract a TV deal). Club announces price reduction to attract fans - if the club halves the price of tickets, the club would need 8000 fans a game to get the same game day income. Also players would escape to the English Conference istead of League One for better pay. In other words, it would be on the same level as the Irish League.

I agree. Does the SPL believe that Rangers are too big to let fail? The money men at the SPL would be aghast at the loss of TV cash that would result should Rangers go bust. Dundee, Livi, Third Lanark and Gretna were allowed to die. However Rangers are a huge source of income for the SPL and I think the SPL will do everything in their power (and quite a few things outside of their power) to ensure either Rangers survival or the fast resurection of Rangers Mark II On the other side of the coin, if Rangers and Hearts both go bust then the SPL have the 10 team comp they have been pressing for. The SPL will not allow Rangers to disappear....unfortunatley.

They were in the same position last season, but fixture congestion, a good cup run and injuries were hurdles they couldn't overcome.

I've had a look at the SPL Rules and Regs and found the following: Section A6 says the following: A6.8 Where a Club takes, suffers or is subject to an Insolvency Event that Club shall be deducted 10 points. Where the Insolvency Event occurs during the Season, the points deduction shall apply immediately. Where the Insolvency Event occurs during the Close Season the points deduction shall apply in respect of the immediately following Season, such that the Club starts that immediately following Season on minus 10points. A6.9 Where an Insolvency Event or in the event that such Insolvency Event is part of an Insolvency Process that process, continues and/or is subsisting for more than one Season then, for each 13 such Season, during the whole or part of which such Insolvency Event or Insolvency Process is continuing and/or subsisting, the Club concerned shall be deducted 10 points or, as the case may be, shall start each such Season on minus 10 points. A6.10 In the event that a Club shall take, suffer or be subject to more than one Insolvency Event during any one Season and the immediately preceding Close Season, which, in the opinion of the Board, are not part of the same Insolvency Process, then that Club shall be deducted 10 points in respect of each such Insolvency Event or, as the case may be minus such number of points, as reflects the number of Insolvency Events which that Club takes, suffers or is subject to during that Season and the immediately preceding Close Season. So it basically says that a 10 point deduction applies, if a club is still in administration the following season they would start the following season on -10 points. Based on that Rangers could be in adinistration and still come second in the League. The problem they would have they would run into trouble in European Comps at that is their real cash cow.

When I saw the article on BBC site I thought that it had a real "We're top of the league and you're no" about it.

I think Kylie got a hat trick that night

Tansey = quite incorrectly. On another point - how good is 35 games undefeated!

On the up side, I did have 0-0 HT in the NPL

Are we at the point where the referee should have the option to put an "incident" on report and after the game, a judiciary can determine if a suspension should apply given the facts? We use this system in Rugby League and it works really well. The referee still has the option of sending off a player in the case of serious foul play. Too many red cards are given by Referees that are "unsighted" or just give poor decisions.

Oh crap

IHE, I find your avatar disturbing, especially since you insisted on showing me your tattoo in some pub last time I was in Inverness. That reminds me, what was the name of the pub you took me to where we didn't stay for a drink, you just wanted to show me the pub. there were 2 "families" there and they wouldn't talk to each other. I was telling my friends in Oz about it but I just referred to it as the Star Wars Pub

They will get right on to it once they have fixed Scottish Football

I have a really good feeling about this game. Lennon is def under pressure