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My tuppenceworth Guy raised his hands to Draper and ref was watching. Ref had no hesitation and the player didnt protest so that tells me more than any debate we might have ! There is some debate in the thread as to whether it was 'violent conduct' or not .. really its irrelevant and just semantics. you raise your hands to another player and that falls within the definition. You dont need to cripple a player for it to be classed as violent conduct. The sending off may be harsh, but this ref had already issued more cards than most people do at Xmas so no surprise for him to pull out another ... you have just been through 90 minutes of that bullshit, so the player was stupid to draw the card in that manner. The mobile phone video evidence is inconclusive, and it wont be shown on any official highlight reel as it may be classed as 'controversial' but eye witness accounts from St Mirren fans posted above seem to support the notion that the red was deserved, or at least a yellow. the colour of the card is down to the ref. Draper went down and stayed down. Based on what I saw in the clip, and the assertion from some that he got a (possibly accidental) closed fist in the eye after the ball was thrown towards his face, its not unusual. He was blindsided by the player from behind, got a ball in the face then a poke in the eye to boot ... most of us would go down purely because it caught us unawares and a poke in the eye isnt pleasant. Conclusion .... Draper - not a diver, Guy - dickhead. case closed

I remember a time when there was talk, even while he was here, of Dargo being called up to the Scotland team and also at one point talk of he and Ross Tokely signing for Nottingham Forest, but alas it was never to be. Dargo had a career blighted by injuries and would have undoubtedly have gone further had it not been for this. Dargo at the time of leaving ICT, was offered the biggest deal ever offered to a player at this club, but his choice was to move closer to home with team offering him football at the same level but for a lot more money, He had stayed put, it's possible that the injuries would have returned, particularly with him getting older and with him (by ICT's standards) on a massive wage, then would have been no good for us at all. By leaving ICT, Dargo was able to play at this level even after his former club was relegated. In that sense he may even have prolonged his career at this level and to suggest anything otherwise or particularly that it "killed is career" is just plain laughable.

No one can say a player blighted his career and it was "a mistake", in retrospect. First of all no one can truly know all of the reasons whay a Player may leave any club and move on. Every move he makes broadens his outlook on football and also on life so a mover always benefits one way or the other. If he did not do as well as some people had expected maybe the influences on him would have been the same no matter when he left//moved. Folks, never be afraid to try something new--what you gain and what you lose always depends more on your attitude and outlook (positive or negative) than on outside influences--which you always have the option to change by another move. :love02:

That's Zogg and I signed on for another season...........for better or for worse.

My guess is that even if he had stayed with us he would have been a lot less effective than in that purple patch of about half a season with Wyness. Even during that spell his goals tally was boosted by all the penalties he took. He did absolutely the right thing in putting his family first by increasing his earnings.

I think it's pretty incredible just how well Scots athletes/sports persons are doing considering that we're pretty much producing what we have despite the slim pickings we get in terms of investment in Sport and Sports Facilities.....investment that was, even before the Olympics, disproportionate. Surely the argument must be that Scottish representation is succeeding despite TeamGB and not because of it!!! Imagine what a Team Scotland could achieve if it was backed by an Independent Scotland who were investing with pride in it's own nation.

Here's a piece I did for STV on our upcoming season... http://sport.stv.tv/blog/113420-spl-previews-inverness-aim-to-rule-the-highlands-after-another-rebuild/