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The RESERVE fixture will not go ahead as Gretna cant field a team, the senior games are "under constant review" according to the BBC. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/t...tna/7324437.stm

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Highlights are only available in the UK. The IP address range you just posted from resolves to a parent ISP of Verizon in the USA, and your individual IP is from a company that I believe is both in the USA and the UK. If you are using Verizon then it will be blocked. If you are in the UK and using the company IP address then it is likely that your corporate network is served by a US proxy server. either way, as far as the BBC are concerned, you are **** out of luck :007:

only if you assume someone is at fault ... goals are sometimes because of good offensive play, not just from crap defending. I was simply making the point that the commentators attributed two goals to poor play from McGuire (one of which they jointly blamed Munro for) but that they didnt mention Hastings being at fault for any goals .... but as I am relying on radio commentators like Brian Irvine then I guess those who were actually at the game can confirm/deny .....

According to the commentators it was McGuire at fault for two goals

And your point is ? He was basically relegated to reserve/u-19 squad and has no matchday duties today presumably ? 7 defeats in a row ... but I guarantee you people feel less angry about todays defeat because the players at least tried !!! 11 games without a win 17 games V Aberdeen, no wins

news just in .... Dougie McDonald sent off Duncan 7 minutes into the half-time break ..... and its been confirmed he has now sent off Grant Munro 10 minutes after the end of the game. audio available here

One game doesnt solve any and all of our problems but it certainly sounded like they were trying like **** to win so I cant slag off most of the players. I will make exceptions for Duncan, McGuire and Imrie who were all highlighted by the commentators as being under par (or stupid in Duncan's case).

Brewster urging players to get back rather than forward and not concede another goal according to commentators !!!! Aberdeen now playing 5 or 6 up front ...... now Brewster urging them forward ..... Regardless of result, this has been an entertaining game thats for sure !!!

Should we be delighted at getting such an entertaining game with the players showing some fight to get back into it after Aberdeen's first and third goals, or should we be annoyed that we have shipped three goals ...... commentators saying players look fired up so if we lose I cant really criticise everyone (or the manager) as the team sound like they are making the effort.

McGuire having a real stinker according to commentators .... but to be honest, it sounds like most of the players are at least putting in effort.

Russel Duncan sent off at half time for kicking ball away as teams went up the tunnel.

feck ... 2-2 Nicholson

Craig Dargo scores for St Mirren (his 1st goal for them) ...... St Mirren 1-0 Gretna

earlier, Brian Irvine called the decision to put Tokely on the right side of midfield a good tactical move :017:

Aluko ... 0-1 Dons

I shouldnt be able to, but somehow I am : http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/scotland/t...dio/6354443.stm?

Aberdeen have penalty claim turned down ......

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Dont listen then not a problem for overseas fans - this is a blocked game :009:

UPDATE ..... WK 13 St Mirren V Rangers : no re-scheduled date yet WK 21 Gretna V St Mirren : no re-scheduled date yet Celtic V Rangers : 16th April 2008 @ 7:45PM WK 22 Motherwell V Celtic : 13th April 2008 @ 2 PM WK 30 Motherwell V Rangers : no re-scheduled date yet To add/change your prediction for previous weeks simply use the dropdown box on the prediction league screen and choose the week number.

A sensible post James and one that could be valid in any one of a number of threads right now. In most cases we don't know the full story .... In most cases what we hear comes from one side only .... However the sheer quantity of stories/rumours leaking out of the stadium right now and what seems to be a consistency or pattern of treatment of senior players is very worrying indeed. They can't all be troublemakers and something has to give soon.

I was surprised myself when checking this out so thought I would share !!! We have issued 34 squad numbers this season. Of the 34 numbers issued it looks like there could be a staggering FIFTEEN players unavailable because they are either on loan, now elsewhere, or "out of favour". If the 'manager' picks only those players who seem to be available and not in the bad books for some reason, then only 1 player of the 19 that are left will have to sit in the stands !!! Black, Ian - in the bad books ?? Brewster, Craig - retired Hart, Richie - leaving MacDonald, Ally - on loan (i think) McCaffrey, Stuart - on loan McDonald, Dean - out of favour (not Brew's type of player ... allegedly) Morgan, Alan - now at Killie Munro, Grant - in the bad books ?? Rankin, John - now at Hibs Ridgers, Ally - now at Elgin Sutherland, Zander - on loan Watt, Steven - out of favour ?? never seems to get in the squad at all Wilson, Barry - on loan Wood, Garry - on loan Wyness, Dennis - out of favour ?? That leaves ..... Bayne, Graham Cowie, Don Duff, Jamie Duncan, Russell Fraser, Michael Gillespie, Dale Hastings, Richard Imrie, Dougie Kerr, Guy Malkowski, Zbigniew McAllister, Rory McBain, Roy McGuire, Phil Niculae, Marius Paatelainen, Markus Proctor, David Rennie, Connor Tokely, Ross Vigurs, Iain I think Granty will be in the lineup but If the 'manager' were to base his selection on just the 19, then I guess we might line up like this (a scary thought) Fraser Proctor Tokely McGuire Hastings Cowie Duncan Imrie Paatelainen Bayne Niculae Subs: 7 from .... Zibi, Duff, Gillespie, Kerr, McAllister, McBain, Rennie, Vigurs

I started writing something similar to CaleyD yesterday .... a sort of perspective of ICT showing how the club has changed over the last few years. I knew it would be a mini novel so even started writing it in "word" instead of directly on the site but I got caught up at work and never finished it. I must say that CaleyD's finished article is pretty close to what I was going to try and say. I am not going to go into the problems that seem to be ripping the playing side of the club in half as CaleyD seems to have commented at length on this but I wanted to make a few additional comments about this website, the perception the club seem to have of the fans, and the lack of communication from the club. [li]We all love ICT, even those of us who hardly see a game these days because we live in another country or on another continent. We would not be here on this site, nor would we moan and groan so much if we did not feel so passionate about the club. I know some at the club write this site and others off as being so "neggy" but a lot of what is said on here comes straight from the heart of passionate supporters. Those supporters may not get it right all the time or express a point that others agree with or the way others like, but every single opinion counts because it comes from one of the club's customers.[/li] [br] [li]The club used to feel passionate about its fans or at least give that impression. As we climbed the lower divisions, David Sutherland acknowledged the fact that we had many people who made great efforts to come to ICT games from all over the country and mingled with the fans on more than one occasion either in a bar after the game (eg. Caley Inn a couple of times) or by hosting fans for drinks on away days a few times. (Yes IHE, we know he still owes you a large voddie/coke). He was also quick to speak out on issues affecting fans - coming to the supporters in the stands at Kilmarnock when the cup game was abandoned in the 28th minute, and speaking out about it for weeks in the press after that. He may have had ulterior motives, he may have been trying to make Tulloch's look good, or he may have been genuine, you decide ... but the simple fact is that whether true or not, he at least appeared to listen, and appeared to care. That feeling is long long gone. Real fans are now a nuisance, a necessary evil, something that has to be put up with once in a while by the hospitality customers or corporate sponsors ... or so it seems.[/li] [br] [li]The club used to talk to fans. Whether it was directly, or whether it was through a vehicle such as this site before, during or after its stint as the official site, the fans were viewed as being worthy of knowing at least some of what was going on. Not everything, but at least something, especially when it was positive. "Boardroom Banter", our monthly column supplied by Kenny Cameron when he was a director, and created by him along with myself, Ken Thompson and David Sutherland was warmly received. A portion of what was in it was perhaps written from a particular angle that made the club look good (some might say propaganda even) but it also carried answers to questions/concerns that fans had raised on the website during the previous month(s). I used to trawl the boards and submit those questions to the board and Kenny would come back to me with what was usually some decent answers. [/li] [br] [li]David Sutherland realised the potential of the internet very early on and also realised that releasing information via a site like this which was more sympathetic towards the club, or more prone to be on the club's side was a good way to get information out that didnt try to spin the story like the press might. More recently however, the silence has been deafening, secrecy abounds (even if it is sieve-like), and again, the paying customers are viewed as nothing more than an inconvenience not worthy of talking to. What little is released for public consumption tends to be stuff that is commercial in nature and of benefit to the club rather than the customers and only a select few at the stadium ever bother to communicate with fans.[/li]

There has to be a first time to beat the Dons and this week is as good as any. The form book says we should get humped but as we all know as ICT fans, things dont always go according to the form book !!! However, as some have said, that can only happen if the players perform for the fans which they have not being doing recently. Whatever the off-field problems may be, and whoever is responsible for them, the simple fact is that all fans should support the team on the park if they appear to be making an effort. I dont subscribe to the boo everything and everyone scenario if an effort is being made. BUT If there is no interest shown by the players or an apparent lack of effort then all bets are off. As for Brewster, as vocal as I have been in stating my personal opinion that it is time for him to go, I dont subscribe to the thought of booing him for the whole game either. That is disrespectful and stooping to a level some of us are accusing him of dropping to. I do however think he should be sent a strong message from the fans and one way to achieve this is to sing just a few songs throughout the game ... no caley - clap - clap - clap or anything like that but 90 minutes worth of songs for Black, Munro (if not playing), Wyness, Wilson, Rankin & even Caff. Some people may not want some or all of these players at the club, and they may be right, but the message to the manager is to show the displeasure in how he is going about things and how he (and others) appear to be ripping the heart out of our club.