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Dont see what the problem is ...... on any level Personally, I prefer a minute's silence myself, especially when it is observed by all and then followed by deafening noise as everyone applauds everyone else for being respectful, but apparently the O'Donnell family preferred to have applause in memory of Phil and as far as I am concerned, the wishes of the family would always over-ride my preference as a fan. so that should remove the argument about silence/applause. As for doing it tomorrow as well as a few days ago. As has been pointed out, the funeral was only today (streamed live on the BBC website I might add) and so many players/teams will still feel quite emotional and want to mark his passing on a traditional football day (ie. a Saturday). Add to that the fact that a number of teams did not play on Wednesday, and for those that did, their fans might not have made it to a midweek game so its only fitting that the whole of the SPL does it tomorrow. Even if you blow the last paragraph away, the other thing to consider is that the current tenants of Fir Park - who are our opponents tomorrow - are likely to have encountered Phil at some point this season both on and off the park and because their game was postponed on Wednesday, none of them - or their fans, whether 40 or 400 - have had the chance to pay their respects.

I would like to see Dean get a chance !! By all accounts he has been pretty good in the reserves, and has scored a few goals. I know the reserves is a different kettle of fish to the first team and the likes of Rory was also quite prolific there too but less effective in the first team, but at least Rory has had a significant number of games to try and prove himself.

CGF money to ICT = good decision. As CB mentions, the money given to ICT part funded the construction of a road to the stadium. This small investment has opened up vast tracts of previously inaccessible land and if they have done it right, should have netted the local authority many times more than the amount they gave. The profile of ICT at the time was high to us, but pretty low everywhere else in the country but with magical results in the ensuing time and elevation to the Premier League, the club has also helped market the city far and wide - both nationally and internationally. CGF money to Clach = good decision. The Clach money is a harder one to quantify in terms of what the council got back, but you could quite easily argue that it was indeed a legitimate expenditure for the "common good" of the Merkinch community. In council terms, they also now own a sizeable piece of land very close to the city centre which wont be dropping in value over the years !!! If there is ever a time where Caley Thistle & Clach (+ other local sports?) were to move to a new "community" stadium perhaps part funded by business and part by the city, or Clach become tenants at the TCS then this land will be worth a packet for developers. Not saying I want either thing to happen, but if it does, the council will once again make back far more than they spent. CGF money to a fireworks display = bad decision. This is a ludicrous decision on so many levels. I regularly view the online versions of the Courier and HN and have read the stories about this display with interest. It sounds like the council had the wool pulled over their eyes a little in thinking they were providing "up to" a certain amount and that this would be reduced if the organisers arranged sponsorship. Recent stories seem to suggest thats not the case and when more sponsorship was received, the organisers bought a few more fireworks !!! A fireworks display may be wonderful when it happens, and memorable for a day or two but it fizzles out all too quickly. I fail to see what lasting impact or continuing benefit it would give to the council or the residents of Inverness. Its not going to drive tourism, its not going to have people saying "we must travel to Inverness" in the same way as people travel to Times Square in NY for the New Year fireworks, its a waste of money that could be better spent elsewhere.

A slightly expanded article now on front page of site : http://www.caleythistleonline.com

own goals scored by opposition players for ICT are part of the 996. own goals scored by ICT players for the opposition are not.

Bottom line is that Brewster should be putting out his best 11 players in every game regardless of length of service, favouritism or anything else. I think CB has got it right recently but if Tokes is not performing then Proctor must come in. What happens next is up to Ross ... he either knuckles down and wins his place back, or he doesnt .... We know he can do it, but if he thinks he is an automatic choice as RB then maybe he is getting too complacent and thinks he doesnt need to try. I am sure Brew will educate him on that point. The same should apply throughout the rest of the team too .....

Jimmy Calder might smile ... but I dont think Mark Brown ever saved a penalty either !!!

Players' Player of the Year is not awarded by fans .... and quite a few others are voted on on a game by game basis so are indicative of consistency throughout a season not favouritism. I actually agree with you that he should be dropped if not playing well and Proctor should play in his place. Maybe that will give him the boot up the @rse he may need to improve his performances. However, I think you are over reacting in your calls for him to be booted out of the club.

really ? Does a crap player win every single award from fans and players alike at the end of our first SPL season ? Off form perhaps, deserving of being dropped probably, but I think you are going way over the score with your comments. Although at least this thread - at your second attempt - was not personally defamatory towards him. You cant say we would have won more or less points with him in the side or not as there is no way to tell ... but I would agree that Proctor didnt seem to do much wrong other than getting sent off (to save someone else's bacon) and that he should maybe get a chance ahead of Ross if he is out of form.

Rankin contracted until May 2009 (see here: http://www.caleythistleonline.com/communit...p?topic=5629.0) but I agree with Marty ... contracts mean **** all these days !

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[li]Discuss the game in this very thread right here :004:[/li] [li]Get to the chatroom HERE[/li] [li]See the subs / bookings / report - after the game starts *** - HERE[/li] [li]At the game ? - Dont forget to vote in the POLL after the game has ended***. HERE [/li] [li]See the stats etc after the game has ended*** by choosing today's game from HERE[/li] ***: As today's game is once again blocked to overseas listeners, we will be unable to offer live updated scores or stats. The chatroom and this thread will be available but reports, stats and POY Polls etc will be published/updated later. LINEUPS [attach=1] DSM00.gif_thumb

Incidentally ..... heres a few stats about those scorers Wilson Robertson scored our first ever competitive goal (League Cup, 9th Aug 94 V East Stirling) Alan Hercher scored our first ever League Goal (Div 3, 13th Aug 94 V Arbroath, also first hat trick as he got 3 in that game) Mark McAllister scored our first ever Scottish Cup goal (17th Dec 94 V QOS) Danny McDonald scored our first ever Challenge Cup (then called B&Q cup) goal (28th Sep 94 V Dundee) Brian Thomson scored our first ever Division 2 goal (6th Aug 97 V Livingston) Paul Sheerin scored our first ever Division 1 goal (14th Aug 99 V Falkirk) Stuart Golabek scored our first ever SPL goal (15th Aug 04 V Dunfermline @ Pittodrie) Barry Wilson scored the first SPL goal at Tulloch Caledonian Stadium (29th Jan 05 V Dunfermline) Ian Stewart scored the last competitive goal at Telford Street (5th Oct 96 V Arbroath) Ian Stewart was the first person to score a competitive goal at Caledonian Stadium (9th Nov 06 V Albion Rovers)

Was doing some stat checking this morning as we try to get all our figures up to date and came across one stat that doesnt seem to have been publicised yet ...... ICT are only FOUR goals away from scoring their 1000th competitive goal !!!! [attach=1] Who will get it ???

There's a challenge then ..... for the end of 2008, come up with a few "sketches" you would like to see on OAE from what happens in the SPL in the coming 12 months and post it as an alternative to IHE's panto .......

I miss both :007:

The copyright is not a huge issue if ICT film it themselves as media rights are negotiated on a non-exclusive basis that gives clubs rights over their own footage. However, getting footage from other companies for DVD highlights would be a total nightmare. One of the things I am currently pushing the club about is media rights - especially as it relates to the blocking of games for overseas fans - and if this is successful, then you might find that ICT end up with a section on their website where fans can subscribe to watch highlights of all their games ..... just like RedTV on the Aberdeen site or Killie World on the Kilmarnock site ! I have the night to remember video too .... just cant play it on a north american video recorder :015: :015: must get it converted sometime

nice clips. have adjusted upload limit and limit per post to 16Mb :004:

This better ? Its from our own stats program and you are right .... there was a mistake, I had clicked Barry as the scorer in that game instead of Bayne (they were beside each other in the team line as subs). League Goals [attach=1] All Goals [attach=2]

You are ... Denzil is top scorer with 7 but 2 of these were in League Cup, Marius has 6 too, but 2 of these were in League cup also. League Goals [attach=1] Total Goals [attach=2]

This is so sad. My heart goes out to friends, family and those who were close to him. I also feel for Motherwell supporters. Today should have been a truly memorable day for them, and sadly it will be, but for all the wrong reasons.

Phil O' Donnell - Motherwell player see here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ell/7164150.stm or here: http://www.caleythistleonline.com/communit....php?topic=5718

Phil McGuire handball today according to the radio report.

Ann Nicoll picked it today

out of contract at end of season - free to talk to other clubs from Tuesday .... worrying !!! 01/01/08 - Alan Morgan 28/05/08 - Steven Watt (loan) 30/05/08 - Richie Hart 31/05/08 - Craig Brewster (player), Jamie Duff, Russell Duncan, Dale Gillespie, Guy Kerr, Rory McAllister, Stuart McCaffrey, Markus Paatelainen, Ally Ridgers, Zander Sutherland, Ross Tokely, Iain Vigurs, Barry Wilson, Dennis Wyness, Garry Wood, Ally MacDonald