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I am in total agreement with that statement. I had numerous meetings - both formal and informal - with DFS and those in his "ICT posse" in the past few years and have always felt that regardless of anything else he always had the best interests of ICT at heart. That is why we heavily supported him when he was attempting to become chairman the first time and why we would likely support him and the current board should their be any takeover bid. I would agree that his published acts are not always selfless as his company does benefit from the exposure/work but I dont think that this has ever been the be all and end all for him. At the end of the day he masterminded our return from the edge of the cliff as he commented in the paper and that is something that no Caley Thistle fan should EVER be allowed to forget because I sincerely believe that we would have gone the way of Clydebank had he not pulled us up by the bootstraps. I would also note that he does (or used to do) quite a lot of things within ICT when we were struggling financially that could best be described as philanthropic. Most of these were never publicised so it cant be said he is only in it for what he can get. We all mump and moan on here about things at the stadium, or the way that ICT is not as customer oriented as before but that does not mean we want to replace everybody with a new set of owners - especially ones that set alarm bells ringing when they are described as "a central belt businessman" or "a group of London based investors" .... Maybe we will be less suspicious when we know who these currently faceless people are ... but i doubt it. Although a takeover would seem unlikely given the ownership of large numbers of ICT shares by relatively few people who I think are "ICT people", the idea scares me because I think CaleyD may well have hit the nail on the head with his "harbour development" theory. That part of the longman will be unrecognisable in a few years - I have seen the plans - and if it is developed as per those plans (leisure village - yachts, marina, hotels etc) then the TCS will be at the heart of it and located on land that will - as CD says - skyrocket in value to the point where ICT may well be able to return the stadium to normal ownership and either make enough money by selling their lease to build a brand spanking new stadium (if thats what we want) in an alternative location or be able to stay where they are and be at the heart of a vibrant leisure district.

you are correct - hadnt noticed that one. I updated the spreadsheet to auto-award points but Excel has a bit of a problem with RANK commands where it skips a rank if anyone is tied - There is a solution to this but I cant think of it at the moment. Once i figure it out, will repost the spreadsheet and you might want to try it - guess its good to know we agreed on (most of) the totals and that where there was a discrepancy it was easily explainable :021:

I was playing around with the excel file and think i managed to make it more understandable and a little more user friendly by automating more of the calculations. I entered all results up until last weeks game as that poll is not yet closed and the results so far (by my calculations) are as follows Players of the Month August: Michael Fraser September:Don Cowie October:Don Cowie November:Don Cowie December:Michael Fraser Rankings 01. Don Cowie ( 53 ) 02. Michael Fraser ( 44 ) 03. Marius Niculae ( 33 ) 04. Ian Black ( 28 ) 05. Ross Tokely ( 14 ) 06. Dennis Wyness ( 11 ) 07. Russell Duncan ( 8 ) 08. Craig Brewster ( 5 ) 09. Richie Hart, Alan Morgan, John Rankin ( 3 ) 12. Barry Wilson ( 2 ) 13. Graham Bayne, Roy McBain, Grant Munro ( 1 ) All other players on 0 points. Does this agree with your numbers hislopsoffsideagain ? POY200708.xls

Why do you think he is acceptable ? I think the arguments against him have been pretty much consistent as to why people dont want him ...... but I am curious as to your reasoning in supporting him (or perhaps tolerating would be a better description).

I managed to throw August into a copy of the spreadsheet - attached - see if this makes sense to you .... Player of the Month for August - Michael Fraser mainly due to a good display against Rangers, with Marius and Ian Black a fair bit behind and Cowie further still. In terms of POY points, Marius was leading with Cowie 1 point behind. ICT-POY-0708.xls

here are the first six games - Rangers on 4th August until Hibs on 1st September. let me know if you need any others. I also included a screenshot from last years spreadsheet to explain how it works ..... As you will see on the screenshot for December, Ian Black and Mark Brown both got a total of 8 vote points in the Motherwell game while Richard Hastings got 13 and Darren Dods got 18. In this instance Dodsy got the 5 POY pts for this game, Hastings got the 3 points and BOTH Black and Brown got 1. In the next game against Dundee Utd Mark Brown and Barry Wilson were tied with Grant Munro and Craig Dargo getting the next two highest totals ... in this case Brown and Wilson both got 5 POY points and Munro and Dargo got 3 and 1 respectively .... basically if there is a tie, then the players get the appropriate points but 5, 3 and 1 are always awarded even if it means 4 or 5 players get points. When it comes to Player of the Month then it is total votes irrespective of how many 5, 3 or 1 pointers they got 01.rangers.gif_thumb 02.motherwell.gif_thumb 03.stmirren.gif_thumb 04.dundeeutd.gif_thumb 05.arbroath.gif_thumb 06.hibernian.gif_thumb DSM05.gif_thumb

they are for me - will screenshot them for you

I certainly wont turn down any offer of help ...... all polls from this year should be visible at this link by looking in the dropdown menu http://www.caleythistleonline.com/index.ph...4&Itemid=49 if you want a copy of my spreadsheet let me know ... it automates some of the sums (but not all)

According to someone on P&B Rangers fixture congestion is now so bad that they may have to play 3 games in a week a couple of times to get them all played by the split if they progress further in Europe.

that will be because I havent posted the results yet .... will try to get them up to date soon.

nope. Burns is/was part of the debacle we shall call "The Berti era" and should not be considered.

I reckon I have "converted" about 25/30 people over here so that they either actively follow ICT as their "Scottish team" or at least look out for their results :003:

I was a Caley supporter and a Celtic fan. I make the distinction between supporter and fan as a supporter contributes to their team in some way (by paying in at turnstiles, buying merchandise etc) whereas a fan just follows the team and makes no contribution to their team monetarily or otherwise. My Celtic allegiances died on the day ICT entered the Scottish leagues and despite one or two people trying to get through to "Off the Ball" to question those allegiances when I appeared on it after the 3-1 Parkhead game, the truth of the matter is that the two times I have been to Parkhead were both in the away end as a Caley Thistle supporter. My English team was Arsenal as I did go to Highbury a few times when I lived in London. I also had a soft spot for both Wolves and Newcastle when they were in the lower leagues as I had friends from both places, and for Wimbledon as they travelled through the leagues because my uncle lived there. Nowadays I guess I am a supporter of both Caley Thistle and Toronto FC as I do contribute to each team ... to ICt via this website, being a shareholder and ordering merchandise and to TFC by attending games.

Charlie Christie used to post the winners on here when he was in charge of it and also whilst we were the official site. It is now posted semi-regularly on the official site at www.ictfc.co.uk

which one :015: :015: :015:

Are you suggesting that myself or Donald released his registration details to someone. Thats dangerous ground if you are !

a pair of muppets !!! which about sums up the usual commentary team !!!

As far as I know its permanent as his ICT contract ended on 1st January 2008. Both Kilmarnock and ICT have the same website provider and the player stats come from a third party so not surprising if its wrong on both sites ! Did you notice he seems to have developed schizophrenia ? he's both #11 and #14 on the Killie page.... infact on the Kille page I am looking at he is #11, #14, and #14 again !!!

what crap commentary ..... makes me wish this weeks game was blocked :015: :015: :015: Irvine: "Caley were formed in the late 90s" Irvine: "Caley have a good record against Hibs, especially here at home ..... but this game is away." :029: Irvine: "Flicky Flackies" WTF :017:

Hold on... Caff signed for St Johnstone? :004: :016: on loan till end of season with no recall clause so as good as signed for them permanently.

I fancy Marius to score goal #1000 !!! although I would like Denzil - our record scorer - to get it.

penalty - Rankin scores 2-0

maybe you should read the topic thats already discussing this :004: . topic closed. http://www.caleythistleonline.com/communit...hp?topic=5644.0

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