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maybe get the Chorley Express ..... (all will become apparent when Immortal Howden Ender responds on this thread)

Imrie is one of those players with the potential to be a future ICT "Legend" in the same mould as Rosscoe. He is not the best player in the world, but he is as determined as ****. That can also be evidenced by his career progression over the last few years ... juniors to SPL in a very short time. He takes a lot of that determination and hunger onto the pitch and ICT fans will back any player who gives it 100% I am going to say something positive about Brewster now so those that need to, please sit down !!! When I was over in April, I enjoyed the ICT 3-0 Killie game. Dougie was still blending into the team and I was very impressed with Brewster's handling of him in that game. The pressures were similar to the ones we have now (hadnt won at home all year except against Gretna) and Brewster spent a lot of time during that game cajoling a performance out of Dougie, telling him where to position himelf, and generally encouraging him to perform. that was the game where he scored his first goal and his determined performance was a big factor in the victory .... so fair play to Imrie and in that game at least, fair play to Brew !!!!

its a little more complicated than that. our stats database is just that, a complete (or until we get previous seasons entered - incomplete) database of matches and results. we can change things in it by altering the code, but it takes a bit of work .... we may look at it in the longer term.

it should be possible, but we would probably have to re-write that module - bigger job which we might look at at some point in the future.

NO. We have not allowed TV votes since it started 7 years ago, and have no plans to change that.

if he could start grabbing points at home then I dont think most of us would complain as loudly as we have .........

Please note this reminder about what is and is not allowed in relation to this subject. I would also remind folks that this is the "serious discussion" area so if we feel that posts are becoming abusive, childish or trying to goad rather than discuss, we will summarily delete them using our own discretion.

looks like we can close this topic now then .... 3 pts from the first game !

Indeed. 100% agree with you there.

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I would say 4 pts would be a minimum target from those games. 1 point against Killie or DUFC and 3 against St Mirren to offset the home defeat earlier in the season.

Canada were already out and the coach opted to go with youth. Possibility that the coach may be sacked so there must be question marks over Hastings' international future at age 31.

because I had to split the topic somewhere and this was the first one I deemed suitable.

I am sometimes as clueless as everyone else ...... although it is fair to say that some information I am given is best described as "background" info not for publication and if someone says that to me, I tend to respect their request.

Because the evidence hasn't been put in the public domain yet. Jay_7 - one thing about "****", especially **** that you try to hide, is that it ALWAYS hits the fan eventually. If my opinion above proves to be totally wrong, you can be sure that this will come out in the end...... sometimes you have to play the long game and wait to see what happens.

As I said above, there are plenty of examples of how he has helped the club through difficult times when no-one else could or would have done so. I was very close to the action during his ascendence as shareholder then chairman first time round and I am convinced that without his assistance, contacts and business know-how we quite simply would not be having this discussion right now as we would have either gone out of business or at best be plying our trade in the lower leagues or even back in the Highland League. We were so broke at the time that I myself (via the website and a lot of on the ground haranguing of people) was working on a "pay a player" fundraising scheme before he took over .... such was the dire condition of the club's finances. Some of what he has done is known publicly, but there are a lot of other things that were done privately with no fanfare which reduced costs at the stadium in a time of great need such as using staff seconded or loaned from other businesses, or even small things like providing the odd bits an pieces of office supplies or furniture. It is something that was echoed on a smaller scale by some of our other directors too. I am not so naive that I think it was all done for no gain. As CaleyD has pointed out there are indeed question marks over the stadium that have still to be answered, and I dont think there is any question that he boosted his own personal and company profile locally by helping ICT when he did. He also helped other organisations in the local area (highland games, nairn pipe band etc) and at the end of the day I believe Tulloch profited from this in terms of goodwill. The public and local governmental perception of them would have made it easier to sell houses (when the market was good) and easier to be trusted when making planning applications that might be viewed suspiciously if it came from other non-local companies. As a shareholder, I am interested in finding out the answer to CaleyD's question about stadium ownership. I don't believe the answer will be as sinister as some people believe, but it is clear that the current situation is different to that which the shareholders voted on back when it happened. However, it is equally clear that this is something that will not be answered in open forum and the time and place to ask for detailed answers to this question is at the next shareholders meeting. As for him "strangling" the club or "holding us back", I simply do not know. I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt based on what has gone before and I can tell you from my dealings with him is that he is most definitely a supporter, just like the rest of us so I dont think he would do that, nor do I think he would purposely try to orchestrate a scenario whereby we were relegated as some have suggested. I was disappointed that he seemed unable to work with Alan Savage as AS did seem to have ideas that would propel us forward. Mr Savage spoke of interference during his chairmanship and that should not have happened. I am guessing here, but as i mentioned on another thread somewhere, perhaps it was a clash of visions on how to achieve the same goal ..... We know that DS came in, sorted out our finances, put systems in place and turned us into a fiscally responsible outfit .... and I think we can also see that AS wanted to move us forward, had many ideas on how to do this, and may have been more prepared to take a few risks to get there. Perhaps Mr Sutherland, who had seen us at the precipice before, didnt like this idea of risk and made it known ...... perhaps he was right, given the current economic climate, and perhaps we might even say he saw that coming given his recent diversification of business interests away from the building trade before the worst of the recession started hitting ..... At the end of the day, my biggest disappointment is that these two obviously astute businessmen could not have met somewhere in the middle and figured out a way to do both .... move us forward whilst spending within our means. so to sum up - as far as I am concerned, DS is a businessman, a supporter, and someone who may very well profit personally if ICT were to move from the TCS. However, as a supporter, I do not believe he would allow that profit to take precedence over the wellbeing of ICT.

I have split the David Sutherland posts off into a different thread. Although there is obviously some overlap between the subjects, lets try to kee this one on topic.

thanks. looks like the link is out of date since the club moved to that ghastly new site.

You and I both know it does not.

I'll be quite honest and say I dont really understand a lot of the stadium trust details but back when it happened, I know that our debt disappeared overnight and we were once again solvent. At the time when this happened we were seriously in danger of imploding and going the way that Gretna did and however it was done, his plan breathed new life into the club. If he hadn't have done it, this conversation (and website) would probably be redundant. Mr Sutherland may gain out of it, and gain quite handsomely if anything ever happens on this front, but I remember a lot of fans at the time saying that they didnt mind this as he did quite literally save the club. Are we opposed to moving if the deal is right ? I don't think so .... a lot of fans would have been happy to transfer the lease to Asda a year or two back in return for a nice purpose built stadium that fitted our needs a bit better than the TCS .... so if it were to be transferred to Tulloch on the same terms would there really be a problem ? Tulloch have done far more for ICT than Asda ever has !!!! At the end of the day, Mr Sutherland is a very successful businessman and has made his living by making the right choices, and probably being quite ruthless when he has had to be but I don't believe that he would do something to the detriment of ICT as *****ing on your own doorstep is not good for business. Anyhow, I really came on this thread to get it back on topic before entering my own off-topic rant !!!! So slaps all round to all of those taking it off topic (including me) and lets get it back on topic as it is drifting quite considerably .....

I don't really want to burst anyone's bubble as there have been some cracking and imaginitave designs, but you have to remember one crucial thing ..... The type of designs available WILL be limited to those that are included in the vendor's templates for the relevant year. I very much doubt that Caley Thistle have the clout, or the level of shirt sales where they could force Errea (or any supplier for that matter) to come up with a custom design template ... we will be forced to select a shirt from one of maybe a dozen pre-defined templates and customise it that way. As I mentioned above, I have added the PSD files for 07/08 and 08/09 to our download section and the two designs I added in my postings above came from the Errea files included in those PSD files. A step forward would be the club asking for, and receiving templates for the 09/10 templates ahead of schedule which would allow the fans to work with those templates and come up with something that Errea would actually be able to produce. in fact, I may add that question as one of my own for next month's BB.

I would agree with that Stevico.

thanks mods for the quick action on this. I had heard nothing about this story as it didnt make the news over here, but after reading this thread did a little google surfing to find out more. bottom line - as far as the site is concerned, feel free to discuss the subject in full but please keep named individuals out of the conversation as that is likely to be very dodgy ground. thanks in advance for your co-operation.

At the end of the day we are assuming the club are at fault here, and that could well be true but has anyone considered that the players might also be taking time to consider their options..... I think Cowie was quoted as having said something to that effect quite recently. Also .... If there are problems behind the scenes - as has been speculated with comments about lack of respect for the manager etc - then its only natural that employees might take there time before committing to more of the same.