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Our red/blue stripes can appear more maroon in bad light or on TV so Hearts would be the only ones I could think of. This is one of the reasons we had to use the "SuperCaleyGoBallistic" tops instead of the striped one we had then when we knocked Hearts out of the cup a year or two later !

yeah, thats why i added another alternative ..... have a word in their ear yourself. (although it seems my edit didnt appear !!! sorted now) If the same person was making my job harder each week by being a prat, I would certainly "have words". If he/she continued then I would probably discuss it with other workmates and suggest that a few of us have words with them next time so they can see what they are doing is affecting others. If they are so arrogant as not to listen to the unofficial approaches then sorry, its down the official route after that.

The stewards themselves can also play a part ..... a lot of them are decent enough and capable of doing their jobs without it turning into a confrontation every week. Politeness and banter go a long way. However, like anything else in life, there's a few bad apples that taint them all. They know which ones are the "little hitlers" so why not just highlight that to their bosses, or have a word in their shell-like .... after all, these are the guys that are making it more difficult for them to do their own job !

Agree with GJ. The best stewards are those who can get a bit of banter with punters and actually do their job - which plenty of them do - without feeling so insecure that they have to try and exert the power they perceive they are in possession of ! There is no excuse for treating a 7 year old child this way, as the steward should have spoken to Jnr or CCC or whoever was accompanying the lad. He might not have been supposed to have had his feet up but its hardly a hanging offence !

Sounds like some people have tried to help you Jnr so fair play to at least those. Keep 9th February 2008 free in your diary, as thats the next game at Love Street. A week or two before the game, contact this guy again via email and send copies to those who helped you before, and then speak to him face to face at the game. Before you go, think of all the possible excuses he can give you such as "well Marc DID have his feet on the seats" and figure out how you will politely yet firmly answer those excuses [for example - "whilst Marc may have had his feet on the seats, so did others around him, and yet this steward thought to single out and bellow at a 7 year old disabled boy who was devasted and didnt stop crying until we were in Perth on the way home. Do YOU think that is an appropriate reaction to a child by someone in your employ .....?"]. Do this and you just might get an apology. However, think it out before hand and resist every temptation to get all hot under the collar or confrontational or any apology wont happen.

Club: Craig Brewster - George Clooney ! [attach=1] [attach=2] ... or maybe Wilfred Brambell (Steptoe)

Club: David Sutherland - James Gandolfini (Tony Soprano) [attach=1] [attach=2]

Inspired by a comment on another thread, if there were ever to be a film about ICT, who would you get to play some of the 'characters' we have had at the club, and on the website in that film ? [posting guideline - humorous is good, but lets not get too nasty, actors can be living or dead but should be at least reasonably famous !]

Well, since John Candy is already dead and Mr Blobby has other committments, perhaps IHE could play me or failing that maybe Brad Pitt :rotflmao: gives me an idea for another thread though .........

ok - who stole my shiny shoes !

Google pays when people follow the links after clicking on an advert. it doesnt pay a lot but it ticks over and just about covers our current running costs. The Adsense spider monitors the adverts that appear and any payment we receive is based on quality of the click rather than sheer quantity. As for "normal" advertising - we dont currently have any official 'sponsors' so adverts you see are either for affiliate deals where we might make a commission if you sign up, for people or businesses that have provided in-kind services such as NorthSport, Trevor Martin etc or for others associated with the club in some way such as banners we display for the club shop, supporters trust etc. If anyone is interested in advertising then we do have guidelines of what the going rates are for advertising on pages with the kind of traffic we get but as advertisers are likely to be local to Inverness we wont necessarily stick strictly to that and would deal with potential advertisers on a case by case basis. so if you know anyone interested, let both them and us know !!! If we do manage to get a decent sponsor deal then the first thing users would probably see would be a speed increase in the site as we would likely put it towards a better hosting arrangement (as mentioned previously).

I think your post is somewhat correct, but the other thing to remember is that there is usually two sides to every story. There's a couple of posts in this thread that suggest fans should be able to do whatever the **** they like in the singing section and that simply isnt true. There is an acceptable level of behaviour and once that is crossed there is a price to pay. Standing is not allowed end of story. If the club choose to let that slide on occasion then so be it, but if a steward comes along and asks or even tells you to sit down and you do not, then you are inviting trouble. If you add taunting and abuse to the mix then there is only ever going to be one outcome. I agree that stewards should not be heavy handed about things and we have plenty 'evidence' to show that they have been in the past (Dunfermline match for example). However, if you look at this whole event, it would tend to suggest they were not on this occasion. The complaint came about more than an hour into the match and as I posted above, only escalated because of "foul, abusive and persistent" taunts aimed at the stewards who were initially trying to get these guys off the wall. As soon as the police become involved, it is out of the hands of the stewards and the club and the police have the power to arrest people for whatever charge they feel is appropriate.

Sounds pretty similar to what I have been told by someone else who is well aware of the events. Basically, fans were spotted on the wall and a steward was sent to ask them to get off because it was a safety hazard. At the same time, the steward was told to ask fans who were standing to sit down as that is the rules. (as you say, it was not enforced with a rod of iron throughout the rest of the game so it wasnt really confrontational). As you posted, the steward was then subjected to chanting that included loads of swearing and a senior police officer then came over. It was the policeman who decided that it had gone far enough and had the person arrested for "persistent and sustained foul and abusive language" which is covered as breach of the peace. The club have no control over the police who make their own decisions to arrest (or not).

funnily enough, as critical as I have been about Brewster's appointment, I have a feeling he may pull something out of the bag before the TW closes.

I have two questions about last night's game as I try to make sure the match report is reasonably accurate ...... 1. Was it Rossco or Barry Wilson whose diving header in the second half hit the post ? Posters on here say Rossco but every single report online (which are admittedly so similar that they appear to come from a single source) says Barry 2. Was it Barry who was booked early in the second half or was McAllister actually booked on the bench ? Again, online sources last night had McAllister getting booked in the 60th minute, which was before he took to the field, and Russell Duncan also getting a booking, but one of the reports I read today said something about Barry being harshly booked after a "dive"

Munro injured. minor back strain according to P&J so wise not to play him in this game.

Yes there is a significant movement towards trying to make this happen. (http://www.standupsitdown.co.uk/) and while it may seem like a great idea to many (myself included), the simple fact of the matter is that currently it is not officially allowed. I don't know all the ins and outs of it but from what I can remember of the last conversation on this on a previous thread, the 'no standing' rule is just that, A RULE, it is not a law and therefore not punishable by law. However, that great cover-all charge of "breach of the peace" is frequently used for enforcing such rules. From the club point of view, they have to comply with this rule as it is an SPL rule and they can have sanctions taken against them for not following it. They can choose to turn a blind eye if they want but clubs have been officially warned that safety certificates may be withheld if they do that so they are in a no-win situation. I would like to see ICT try to put themselves forward to trial the use of a safe standing section (perhaps in the west stand) but until that happens they also have to do what they are told. The bigger issue seems to be with the implementation by some of the stewards. If you get a jobsworth who insists on everything being 'just so' then you are on a loser. If you dont sit down when told, then you end up getting the IHE treatment or the treatment described from last night. If on the other hand you get a steward with common sense - and they do exist - then you might get a bit of leeway. I think the key is not to get too confrontational. If they tell you to sit down, then sit down (at least for a little while). It satiates their desire for power for a few minutes and you can then get away with another few minutes of standing a little later. If you get in their face or get confrontational then they are not going to lose. They are going to take great pleasure in having you hauled out and if you continue to be even the slightest bit belligerent, in having you charged with breach. I would also echo what CaleyD said a few responses ago - if there is a charge pending or something still to come from last night then please take it off the boards and into the realms of private messaging. I would also say that SMEE's suggestion of filming via a mobile is a good one.

Its cringeworthy, its corny and yet after listening to it about 10 times tonight, its great !!!! .... not sure if its nostalgia because I am all the way over here or just because I havent heard it for a while .... ok, this is my last post for tonight, must go lie down, the wife is telling me to wear that Jacket IHE gave me tomorrow morning, the one that ties up the back ..... she said something about men in white suits ..... :023: :crazy07: :crazy07: :crazy07:

I have never had a problem obtaining a reply from him even when criticising the club. Think you answered your own questions there a) You were standing and although the club may tolerate it a little more than before, some jobsworth steward is always going to be power hungry. these are not club staff, but the employees of a contractor. b) A mob of p***** off 13 year olds surrounding them, you probably scared them :004: :003: c) Grabbed by scruff of neck ? By who ? Police or Stewards .... sounds like assault. serious question though, did this person do anything to provoke it ? If not, complain long and loud. d) Slammed against Police van ? Again, by who ? considering that when I worked in retail a good few years ago, I once saw a staff member charged with assault for merely holding a shoplifter by the arm at the elbow this also sounds like assault. Again, complain long and loud. There is probably nothing to be done after the fact but I would suggest that if it happens again you try to keep a level head, and solicit contact details from others around you, preferably not just your friends and then complain to the club directly. If the club receive a complaint that can be subbstantiated they are duty bound to investigate and take the appropriate action.

2-0 Wyness

McAllister booked ..... no details of who he came on for on any of the sites I am looking at ???

The footymad live-scores had him scoring in 34 and 35 minutes for a 2-0 lead .... then they changed it back :007:

Thanks MEE - switching between that one and http://footymad.sportbox.tv/football/match....php?id=1080689

OK - cant do my usual thorough and constantly updated matchday thread this evening as I am at work and sites like SKY Live Scores window are blocked to me ! (we cant see anything with Flash/Shockwave :007:) so this thread will have to do ........ [li]Discuss the game in this very thread right here :004:[/li] [li]Get to the chatroom HERE[/li] [li]See the subs / bookings / report - after the game starts - HERE[/li] [li]At the game ? - Dont forget to vote in the POLL after the game has ended. HERE [/li] [li]See the stats etc by choosing today's game from HERE[/li] LINEUPS ICT Fraser, Tokely, Watt, McCaffrey, McBain, Wilson, Black, Duncan, Cowie, Wyness, Niculae Subs: McAllister, McDonald, Rankin, Morgan, Rigers. ARBROATH Morrison, MacKay, Ferguson, Raeside, Bishop, Tully, Hegarty, Sellars, Watson, Scott, Tosh Subs: Reilly, Black, Webster, Rennie, Wight

if someone wants to send the mp3 to myself or Don, we will ask the club's permission and if that is forthcoming, make it available on the site for aural punishment. the question is .... is it the main version, the rap version, or all versions ?