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We may not have a god given right, but we should at least be competing ....... we have shown we can do that against the so called big teams so why cant we do it against teams that are at (or even below) our level this season ??? first set of 11 games - LDDDLWDDWWW 4 wins - Motherwell, Dunfermline, Rangers & Falkirk 5 draws - Aberdeen, Hibs, Celtic, Dundee Utd, Kilmarnock 2 defeats - St Mirren, Hearts 17 points A good start to the season with the exception of an opening day defeat to St Mirren. A huge win against Rangers and creditable draws against the likes of Aberdeen, Celtic and Hibs gave the early season a distinct 'feelgood factor'. second set of 11 games - DDLLDLLLDWL 1 win - Rangers 4 draws - St Mirren, Aberdeen, Hearts, Dunfermline 6 defeats - Hibs, Celtic, Motherwell, Dundee Utd, Kilmarnock, Falkirk 7 points A terrible set of games with the exception of another win against Rangers and draws with Hearts and Aberdeen. A run of 9 games without a win obliterated the early season 'feelgood factor'. third set of 11 games - WDWLLLWLL?? 3 wins - St Mirren, Hibs, Dundee Utd 1 draw - Aberdeen 5 defeats - Celtic, Hearts, Motherwell, Kilmarnock, Dunfermline 10 points 2 games left - Rangers & Falkirk Better than our second set of games, with 3 games undefeated to start this set, but the worrying thing is that we have lost 5 of our last 6 games and the game we did win was 'stolen' right at the death ....... as we have seen, any feelgood factor still remaining from the early part of the season has all but disappeared. As far as I am concerned, the league is split into 3 or 4 groups 1 - teams where we dont expect anything so any points are a bonus (CELTIC [DLL], RANGERS [WW]) - 7 points from 15 = excellent 2 - teams where we have a chance of a result but they are 'bigger' than us (ABERDEEN [DDD], HEARTS [LDL]) - 4 points from 15 = acceptable 3 - teams we should be competing with on the park if not off the park and where results can go either way on any given day (DUNDEE UTD [WLD], HIBS [WLD], KILMARNOCK [LLD], MOTHERWELL [LLW]) - 12 points from 36 = could/should be better 4 - teams who have not been performing this season and who we should be beating regularly, especially at home (ST MIRREN [WDL], FALKIRK [LW], DUNFERMLINE [LDW]) - 11 points from 24 = must do better if we are not to be relegation fodder.

We constantly bang on about the club not doing anything to encourage fans to come along and when they actually do it we bang on about how its not fair ..... Truth of the matter is, the club have always had some form of 'free child' or 'reduced entry fee' promotion towards the end of every season to try and encourage more people along and its just that ... a promotion, a marketing tool, a gimmick. Its not the whole season, its one game or maybe two towards the end of a season so deal with it .... I accept that those who bought child season tickets at the start of the season may feel that they are justified in complaining that their child is not able to take advantage of this kind of promotion, but thats life - you see it every day in other ways .... for example "get a free phone when you sign up to this deal or that deal .... and in the small print it usually reads 'for new account activations only' " ...... A child season ticket is £130, £80, or £60 depending on which one was purchased, and assuming the lowest possible number of home games (18) that works out at £7.22, £4.44, or £3.33 per game as opposed to £20, £15, or £7 for regular 'pay at the gate' entry prices so its a pretty **** good reduction and more than makes up for letting a few kids in for free in an end of season game or two. For those that have a child season ticket, dont forget you have also had a guaranteed seat for every league game, you have had priority for cup games and you are also entitled to discount at the club shop ....... the club don't do everything right, but I don't think we can fault them for continuing a promotion like this that has been a regular (and therefore forseeable) event come the end of the season.

sounds like it was the linesman who made more of a balls of the penalty claim than the ref. we lost because Dunfermline wanted it more not because of the ref - we were already beaten before that bizarre decision.

Robson Hat-Trick for Arabs V Hearts .... Arabs 4-0 up at Tynecastle

Markus Paatelainen gets his second in two games .... 1-0 ICT :021: :021: :021: Rangers 3 up on the Dons :010: :010:

[li]Discuss the game in this thread[/li] [li]Get to the chatroom HERE[/li] [li]See the subs / bookings / report HERE[/li] [li]At the game ? - Dont forget to vote in the POLL after the game has ended. LINEUPS ICT [attach=1] DUNFERMLINE [attach=2]

The scary part is wondering what the **** Yogi was doing at a university ..... did he have a set of ladders and a chamois ??

3-6 months ago I would have agreed with you and I was also one of those calling for him to be dumped when he showed his petulance in the Falkirk game. HOWEVER, from what posters have said here over the last few weeks, it appears that he is in the process of learning his lesson and has shown he can turn the other cheek and let the ref deal with things that wind him up ... not all the time, but at least he has shown that a few times which suggests there is hope ;). He hasnt deserved every booking he has received, some were on reputation alone, but if he can work on reducing the stupid bookings then he would be the very first name on most people's teamsheets every week. Because he appears to be trying to control his petulance he is definitely worthy of a place in our squad and I would reverse the question .... can we afford NOT to have him ... especially when we lose Dods and maybe Dargo and one or two others ?

Think Kencar was saying it might be 1000 less, not 1000 in total !!! I did a bit of analysis .... our average gate for the season so far is 4849 for our first round of home games (11) and 5052 for the second round of home games (4 so far with probably 3 more to come in total - this weeks game V Pars and likely 2 at home after the split). When you take out the old firm, that drops to 4276 (1st rd) and 4241 (2nd rd) so it works out to a drop of around 636 per game over the course of a season if you take out the OF. Over the course of the season we are currently 3.12% down on last season and that rises to 6.99% when you exclude the OF so it suggests people are definitely picking and choosing games and deciding to give some games a miss !!! There are a couple of anomalies that you could point to - we are nearly 20% down on attendance Vs Aberdeen but our one home game this season was moved to a night game and our 2 games against Hibs this year attracted nearly 35% less than the single game last season ... but that one was on Boxing Day so maybe more folk were around and available ....

In the National Hockey League there are always 3 points up for grabs ..... A win in normal time = 3 Pts A draw = 1 pt each same as SPL football so far ..... However, if teams are drawing at full time they play a short period of extra-time and then end with a shootout if no-one has won it in extra-time. The winner gets an additional point for a total of 2 with the eventual loser retaining the 1 pt they got for the draw ...... It does seem to work quite well, but not sure I am a fan of it

When I'm designing a PC for myself or for someone else I always start with the motherboard, that way everything is narrowed down for you I guess you could go either way - depends on whether your heart is set on a particular CPU or not - When researching, I usually start with the mobo as well unless the person I am building it for wants something in particular. (I like ASUS boards) I wouldnt even look at a Dell - for reasons specified earlier ... ie. bloated amount of 'free' software, and the lack of a separately provided OS - our work PCs are all high-end HP workstations and they are pretty good. I havent decided what I am going to get yet for my own system. Quad-core is now available but way over-priced for the performance boost when compared to dual-core so I may look to get a good mobo that has enough versatility that the components (esp CPU) can be upgraded later. The ASUS P5 range is looking good right now.

try searching for 'shadow boxes' ... thats what they are called. I bought a few over here recently from a local craft shop and am going to frame about half a dozen tops in the end, (including a signed matchday shirt from 8/2/2000) :003: these links may help a little http://www.coxandcox.co.uk/acatalog/Shadow_Box.html http://www.frameco-online.com/shopuk/

This is in American dollars and may not be the best solution for everyone but as I am currently pricing out components for a new computer system I will be building, I found it interesting ...... http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,2014424,00.asp

These two guys may look similar - but the faces are different and also looking different ways so not a cut-n-paste job ... or at least not a simple one. They do appear to be wearing similar tops, and although I cant make out the writing on it, it appears that it might be one of those 'hats, scarves, and macaroon bars' kind of dodgy merchandise with some iron-on transfer that you might pick up outside the ground so not unusual for more than one person to be wearing it. [attach=1]<--->[attach=2] These people also appear to look similar but not exact. again, similar clothes and stance might make you doubt the picture, but i still think its genuine -- on the getty site its amongst dozens of pictures taken by the same photographer at the game and they tend to bulk upload pics to sell them freelance and time is of the essence. [attach=3] -- [attach=4] -- [attach=5]

you can always manage to slip in the '3 rings' of wedded bliss ........... the engagement ring, the wedding ring, and the suffer-ring :015: :015:

ICT have decided to let kids under 16 into the North Stand (home), South Stand (away) and uncovered areas of the main stand for FREE this weekend .......... There will be no reduction in the normal adult admission prices for these areas which is Adult £20 / Concession (student/oap) £15 but kids can obtain a voucher from the ticket office that they can redeem at the turnstile for free admission. (note: kids who are U-12 need to be accompanied by an adult). If you have any queries about this, please direct them to the ticket office rather than website admin. (tickets@ictfc.co.uk) EDIT: The voucher has now been made available on the OFFICIAL SITE and we have also attached a downloadable copy to this posting for your convenience [attach=1]

dont think its altered getty images is a well known image provider (http://editorial.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx) linesman is crouching (looking along the line as Nakamura takes the corner perhaps) fans are in focus, player, ball and linesman less-so

yup - my thinking exactly.

go HERE - zoom in and there are a couple of pubs shown. One is the Innes Bar - well known haunt of a few of the posters on here - and the other is the Caley Club. Getting to the Caley Club is a little easier than Google would have you believe as there IS a footbridge that takes you from Bank Street to Greig Street !!! Note - The Innes doesnt always let away fans in (depends on the teams if you know what I mean !!). It also doesnt allow kids after the games owing to the fact that it doesnt serve food on a weekend, however it is a favourite haunt of a few from on here and someone will probably know better than me if Dunfermline fans are allowed.

My wife would confirm the scurrilous and completely inaccurate nature of that statement :004: ...... and besides, I am not the one with the preponderance for bearing my erse in public :014:

:010: :010: caught in the swear filter again IHE :004:

Blackieforce has a good point ..... and it reminds me of a match back in the early days when Alex Caldwell was screaming at the players and let loose with a particularly colourful set of phrases only to realise that the main stand was absolutely silent (no change there then). He turned round, realised everyone had heard this latest outburst and went a particularly fetching shade of crimson ..... :015: :015: :015: (having said that, his comments were what you might call "socially acceptable" swears as opposed to racist, religious or lifestyle comments).

Nothing wrong with swearing at a game ...... within reason. Despite the best efforts of many to price the game out of the market for all but the privileged few, football is still the game of the masses, a place where the working man (or woman) should be able to enjoy themselves, relieve some of their own stresses and generally have a good time even if the odd swearie word creeps out. I can understand parents not wanting young kids to be subjected to some of the verbage at a game, especially if it is offensive. However, little 'Johnny' has probably heard and used worse than that at school on a daily basis - as suggested by the later shout from the kid's own lips !!! If you are at a home game, you can make an effort to remove yourself from foul language by opting to go to somewhere like a family stand where swearing could and should be frowned upon but you will never get away from it completely. However, I can appreciate that this is more difficult at an away game. Although, if the commentators got it right about this game, there were plenty of alternative locations in the away area that someone could have moved to if certain chants offended them. Onto the chant itself - Maybe I am being to "PC" but personally I would have found the 'Homo' chant to be as offensive as using a racial or religious slur as it has nothing to do with football .... call the player a b*****d if you want, but dont add a potentially inflammatory adjective to the front .....

got to agree with those who said he had to be hooked ..... by some fluke, I managed to get audio of the second half and the commentators were saying that his next tackle would get a red. Whilst his reputation goes before him - and it might be unfair that he gets a card more easily than others because of this - it will take some time and good behaviour to reverse. Charlie did the best he could in replacing him and Barry with Richie Hart and Zander - Most have said Zander was fine, and it sounded from the radio like RH got stuck in too .....

Short answer - right now Intel Core2 Duo has the edge and Intel are blowing away AMD. With AMD having bought ATi, future systems may also be geared to a narrow choice of ATi graphic cards