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I'll probably be buried, but not for all that long in relation to the length of time to which a yes vote would condemn my successors to spearation. So isn't that a highly immoral and irrepsonsible argument, inciting the current generation to vote yes on the basis of claims of a short term fix and giving no thought at all to the interests of the many generations to come who would have to live with the consequences of a yes vote in 2014? It's also interesting to see that SNP "thinking" really hasn't evolved at all from the bogstandard "it's Scotland's oil" sloganising of the 70s. Meanwhile from post 37, I see we are also being invited to vote yes on the basis of oil that bauhaus' nephew "thinks" might have been discovered. What a patronising neutral BBC journalist you are. Don't let facts get in the way of a good scaremongering, will you?

Minus drop = increase?

Red up, black down or vice versa?

You can follow procedures and make a complaint to the SFA through the referee supervisor instead of through the press.

Maybe they feel the need to reserve tickets for selling on the night, now that it has been published that pay at the gate will be available.

What do you want Charles? How do you see Scotland developing within this "Union"? Do you have any thoughts on what you want Scotland to be like in the future? Any ambitions at all? No? Fine, vote for the status quo then and get what you deserve.

None of us seriously know how good or bad remaining in the UK would be, we can make an educated guess though. Are you seriously suggesting a party formed from a movement for independence shouldn't even discuss independence when they are elected into government? Are you also suggesting that the Scottish government have the powers to run the country? Only devolved matters are governed in Holyrood, but you already know that.

In 1979 we were promised a better deal if we rejected devolution (This is now referred to as "Jam tomorrow" in nationalist circles). The majority of votes were for devolution but the Westminster government deemed that 50% +1 of the registered voters were needed. 40% of the electorate voted for devolution. Win or lose, the political landscape has changed, Westminster can of course reverse devolution and the new Scotland Act but that would just be antagonistic. That however might not stop them. It would be good to be able to make our own decisions though without any interference from Westminster or waiting for jam tomorrow.

Couple of points here. Firstly IF Scotland were to vote for separation, the SNP would become completely redundant because they're only, to echo Billy Connolly's reference to the "wee pretendy parliament", a "wee pretendy political party" - inasmuch as they are in effect only really a single issue pressure group and simply don't give a toss about anything apart from separation and their referendum. Absolutely everything they do and think is governed hook, line and sinker by their sole objective of a yes vote. As a result in their book the best interests of the Scottish people in their every day lives are totally secondary to the SNP's sole raison d'etre. Which brings me on to what would happen after a yes vote. There would now be no need for an SNP so politics would revert to a contest among the "real" parties whose priorities, whether you agree or disagree with them, revolve round proper mainstream politics and not the SNP's single issue. So you are back where you started - so a yes vote would change absolutely nothing in that respect. With a Scottish socialist government in Edinburgh spending revenues generated in Scotland on Scottish projects? Absolutely nothing changed, eh? Obviously I am speculating but so is every single other poster here. You have your agenda, Laurence his, I have mine and that is simply to have home rule by whomever it is. Post Independence, I initially see the SNP as a socialist party but there is a broad church in the party and it will without a doubt splinter. In that respect I believe you are right, we will end up with a similar set-up of parties to the left, right and centre but the fundamental difference is they will be parties made up with people living and working in Scotland, thereby being more accountable to the people of Scotland. Somebody also mentioned dictatorship. I really can't think of a more complete dictatorship than the SNP where all the party gofers and apparatchiks from Sturgeon downwards are all clones of Salmond (in mind if not in body )... right down to that silly patronising little giggle which he affects and which all the acolytes sycophantically copy. I sometimes struggle with the concept that you are a published journalist. Then I see the front page of the Highland News and it makes sense.

Rick Astley's Never Gonna Give You Up

Why do you even bother?

Fat feckers in trackies?

I'm comfortable with seperation, even divorce as neither mean isolation. We will continue to be British and our main trading partners will continue to be the rest of UK. We will however have decisions made by our own politicians elected solely by the people of Scotland (that includes you Laurence). I personally feel that a Scottish parliament is more accountable to us. In the words of Wendy Alexander, "Bring it on!".

Mmmm... that sounds very much like the way the Highlands would fare under "central belt rule" in a separate Scotland. At least within the UK, the Highlands is one of several peripheral areas across all four constituent parts. That's why I can't see why anyone up here would want to vote to have their every single affair dictated by a central belt administration which is already showing alarming signs of wanting to centralise things on itself - such as through single Police and Fire services and the freeze on Council Tax which reduces the autonomy of locally elected councils. I'd rather be "dictated to" by a Scottish Government elected solely by the peolple who live in Scotland than a "British one". In the last 50 years what has the UK government done for the Highlands? Too wee, too stupid, too poor. I'm sh1tting bricks reading that Hammerhouse script.

I have no view as to whether Salmond is personally "racist" (ie anti English) but I am sure that he gets that vote and, debatably, cultivates it. That's not to say that all people who vote SNP are, of course not. However it's not healthy to have a party that bases everything on 'it's all someone else's fault' though perhaps he's reduced that recently. I am a member of my local branch of the SNP and there are a few racist comments occasionally but they are quickly shot down and the culprit made to look foolish without alienating them. Many branch members are English. Personally I have some English blood in me and have no issue with anyone from outwith Scotland, it's the "English rule" I can't stomach for whoever we get in Westminster Scotland is only a geographical area. The people best placed to govern Scotland are the people in Scotland regardless of race for we are the ones who live here.

They are.

Dear Mr Cameron Dear, dear Mr Cameron Thank you, thank you, thank you. :party:

Why? Who is it?

For the horses that pull their caravans?

From BellaCaledonia Once again the media is failing and the rules of Scottish Football, are being ignored. These are SPL articles… http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2012/06/18/the-man-from-tea-12/ RFC(IA) hold the SPL Share. D&P claim to have sold the “club” to Sevco. RFC(IA) have ceased to be the owner and operator of a Club, therefore they have ceased (under SPL Article 6) to be entitled to hold a Share. Article 14 tells us that a Qualified Resolution is required to agree who gets RFC(IA)’s share. A Qualified Resolution required a 21 day notice period for the General Meeting AND must be passed with a 90% majority. 1. Rangers don’t get to vote. 2. 10 from the 11 remaining clubs have to agree to the recipient of the RFC(IA) Share. Please don’t let Doncaster away with ignoring the SPL Articles. Don’t allow the 8-4 myth to become reality.

Sorry, couldn't resist it,

I voted yes as I don't have a telly. :wacko:

Do we know when they stopped awarding the EBTs or have they? Maybe they should have been relegated instead of the Pars. Hurry up and nail them Hector.

Sounds good and if Johndo is prepared to back his own story up who am I to argue? Hey Faddy! Gie's yer autograph pal!