IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER

Any feedback available from the ICT "Infirmary" where there must be pressure on to discharge some of the bed users ?

I will be available fer a link via Red Rose Radio.

The club simply have to appeal and make the guvnors make a decision that will have to stand as a precedent fer the rest of the season - especially as it is there for slow motion, different angle analysis. Unfortunately I dont think that they have to give a rationale for any decision they come to. As I have said elsewhere - and I would love to know if I am correct - that the ref was confronted about his first half display and judging by TV replays the one mistake he made was not giving a penalty for Rangers and the culprit who got off with a penalty was Rosscoe - if you watch the TV replays he is just about to whistle and then stops himself. I truly believe that if that happened then he would have gone out with the unconscious psyche of making ammends, To be slightly fair to him he was positioned behind the players so his view would have been blocked - but that means that he must have looked towards his assistant who must have had a very clear view. Not a criticism but Rosscoes style of tackling is the old fashioned way - a bit of lunging in with a sometimes apparent struggling fer pace motion and taking a piece of the man with the ball - just look at his tackle at the edge of the box in the first half. It is simply a case of changing yer style which aint easy to do when it comes to tackling. That is why it is a bit of a risk playing Rosscoe in his current position.

I suspect that your dodgy streamline must have obscured your view of Ritchie Foran !! But neither Foran or Tade are natural strikers and are basically filling a hole at the moment. Plus Goian aint exactly a weak link and bottom line is that Alan McGregor had only one tame Doran effort to deal with. I suspect, especially from his early season commnets, that Tade did not expect to be plaing up front or being selected every week. I will end my comments by emphasising that forgetting the negatives we have a player who will give us 120% effort and committment wherever he is played.

And the good news is that he is evidently frustrated and angry - probably feelings that have been supressed internally fer a few weeks now. He can now release some of those pent up feeling in the dressing room and the training ground in a positive manner and hopefully install the fervour to stand up and ve counted to the squad as a whole and some individuals in particular and again hopefully the initial signs and rewards will eminate at the Hill of Dung.

Well you usually do but not this time. And they still count the non attended but paid fer season ticket seats in the attendances at league games.

I gave him a point in the POY but he didnt prove anything today to me other than what I knew before. He will run and run and run and has a lot of strength. But sorry but for all his positives he is not as good as Sutherland who knows how to play on the last man, has an eye fer goal and his movement - if not as frenetic is more considered. Tade aint a goalscorer and he isnt a wide midfielder either - but he will still scare the s*** out of many teams if he is utilised as a second half substitute. If he can take in some coaching and up his skill and awareness levels then who knows.

That makes it an early season six point derby then ? Simply a game that we have to take at least a point from but more importantly show some shape and promise - which quite frankly has been missing of late.

You are missing the main point Alex - it wasnt a penalty !! - Despite what Neil McCann may say it was an absolute "toss up" as to whether Rosscoe made contact with Naismith or the ball first - but fer fecks sake a great tackle takes out the man and the ball - which Rosscoe did. Lets face it the ref was either told about - or possibly even shown - the incidents in the first half and that clearly influenced the decision against Tokely. I defy anybody to justify a penalty decision after watching the TV replays. Along with the red card that sole decision totally changed the game. The second was harsh but probably correct. Aldred simply was'nt concentrating and IMHO held back when he should have gone through. But the non reactions to the save by the two central defenders - Aldred and Hogg - was disgraceful - they were both feckin sleeping and switched off

My pre Match feeling was that Shinnie for Gillet was a wise move plus Aldred really should have startd. My only "concern" was Terry's continuing persistence with Tade - especially starting him off in a left midfield slot - would have played Ross maself. Playing Foran and Hayes up front was my "pick" anyway. Pitch looks in great condition and the sun shines on the Moray Firth - and the gods are shining on us as a great Ortiz cross should have been tucked home by Edu but he flicks it on too Jellyvic who was just offside IMHO - but why was Tokely covering six yards behind Tansey. Piermayr gets himself booked in the third minute after a very shaky start. They are playing everything down their right via Ness and Ortiz as the Huns are still queuing up to get into the ground. Our first chance comes in the 9th minute as Foran wins a god header and sots from Tansey and Tudur Jones are blocked. Brave header from Hogg results in a mega clash of heads with Naismith and the wee Hun takes a count of 8 !! Hogg was helped as his next action is a fine tackle on Jellyvic. 15 minutes gone and we are a bit fortunate to be level with Rangers dominating, looking dangerous down their right and Ness looking dangerous. And Terry swops Tade with Hayes and vice versa. But we continue to allow Rangers all the possesion and to play it about - depending on the two defending lines of four in our own half - leaving Foran really struggling on his own. Ridiculous foul given away by Tokely on the edge of the box in the 21st minute and we are only saved by a lucky deflection from Piermayr and then a great break from Hayes leaves Doran in on goals and he chooses to go for goals first time and blows a good chance. But as 25 minutes tick by we are beginning to get more in their faces which is long overdue. Bartley gets booked for a foul on Tade who is beginning to get under their skins. Piermayr overdoes it and will have to watch himself. Mics go to Terry who admits that we have started badly and let Rangers dominate too much. 33 minutes and a welcome breather ar Mr T Bartley goes off and is replaced by Perry and he should be our "target". Tade in on goal and ruled offside which TV shows that he clearly wasn't. Big hand ball shout from Naismith in the 39th minute and it did hit Hogg's arm but was nodded on to it by Jellyvic. We almost get caught out on a break from a corner but the cross at the end of the move is headed away by - Johnny Hayes!! Up again and a Doran cross could have been touched in by Foran. Edu then gets harshly booked as Rosscoe play acts !! Another big shout for a Hun penalty and the replay shows that it was as Tokely clearly rasies his arm and the ref puts the whistle to his mouth but stops at the last moment. Last attempt of the half is a well placed ICT free kick which was wasted by Tansey. In summary Rangers have dominated and tippy tappied with a lot of potential but little penetration. Ness looks like the ball player and Jellyvic is a class player. To be fair they deserved a penalty - one penalty. But we are sticking in there and we looked a wee bit more likely in the last ten minutes. Unfortunately the skills of Tansey are being lost as he is playing so deep and defensive as we play a holding middle with pace and width. My main concern is Piermayr who is being pulled apart by Ortiz and one foul away from a red card. And yon wee nyaff McCann tried to justify that it should be 3-0 to Rangers - but I loved the comparison between Rosscoe and davie Weir, suggesting that Rosscoe could have another decade left in the SPL !! I would'nt be surprised if we use a tactical (but measured please) hoof tactic in the second half as there will be fair wind blowing behind us towards the bridge. I would like to see Shane brought on after the hour for Tade and A.Shinnie may well play a cameo as he really has a point to prove - reckon that neither Hayes or Doran will last the pace. SECOND HALF Good solid first 5-7 minutes as we hopefully learned OF lessons from the past and Tade is doing well holding things up with his strength. But I am afraid that the hoof is starting and it is far from measured and it will drain our stamina if it persists. Mind you Hogg and Tokely are hitting it straight in to touch. But it nice to see Johnny Hayes taking on the full backs again even if his crossing has been poor so far. Penalty and Tokely gets a red and the replay clearly shows that Tokely got the ball first - and Jellyvic scores - will start off another thread but this is clearly because the ref has been told that he made a mistake - or possibly two in the first half - and he has taken the opportunity to make ammends and he books Foran for gobbing as well. Tade gives way for Aldred. Ross comes on for Tudur Jones as even Terry gets a talking to by the incompetent one. Jhesus he gives a second penalty in the 67th minute - have to say it was a bit clumsy by Aldred but he went for the ball, they collided and Goian was going nowhere. Cant blame the ref as it was the assistants call. Great save from Jellyvic but Edu strolls in to the box to net the second. As fer the penalty - what a feckin save from Esson - but watch the reactions of Aldred and Hogg to the deflection - simly not good enough - an did Foran not let them know about it. Hope Terry and Mo also give them absolute pelters as well. Game looks as good as over and it is all now about damage limitation. I know that we are up against it but Naismith turned Aldred and Hogg far too easily in the 71st minute and it really should have been 3-0. Sutherland on fer Doran. And the ref tries to make ammends by sending Edu off for a justifiable decision. We are beginning to pick ourselves up and the ref is clearly giving us the benefit of the doubt with most decisions - again an unfortunate trait of refs who know that they have got things wrong. But he books Tansey but had no choice. The game is beginning to die a death with Rangers in third gear and allowing us possession. Hayes again almost made them pay and a Shane strike is well blocked in the 85th minute. Tansey was very, very lucky not to pick up a second red card in the 88th minute - again a trait of a forgiving ref. In summary we didnt really deserve to get anything out of this game and we were on the back foot for most of it - it is just a pity that the turning point was a deplorably wrong refereeing decision. BUT I think / hope that Terry learned some more lessons and loosens some of his apparently inherent convictions and loyalties to signings. ESSON Well he didnt do anything wrong and pulled off a great penalty save. PIERMAYR Very, very shaky first 20 minutes which was undoubtedly not helped by the early booking. Did steady himslef but was not seen going forward, ROSSCOE Unfortunately the red card will provide the "rest" that he clearly needed and probably saves Terry from making a very hard decision. Very unlucky to be sent off but he was struggling throughout - although lets face it - Jellyvic is class. HOGG Apart from standing like a feckin statue at the second penalty I actually thought that he wasmuch improved and lasted the stamina sapping 90 minutes SHINNIE Welcome back lad - Solid, reliable if uncomprimising. DORAN Ran out of steam in the second half but played well in the first half, especially defensively. Should have done better when 1:1 on McGregor TUDUR JONES Is he unfit or does he have a frustratingly lackadaisical style. He sat back but did little else TANSEY Suffered due to the system and was forced to play on his back foot. Did well enuff in that respect but was given no opportunity to play football. HAYES My MOM - I would have persisted with playing him up front if not wide coming in. Saw more of the old Johnny Hayes today and his fitness levels are significantly improved - did some fantastic defensive tracking back as well TADE Well he aint a midfielder either but - give him his due - he worked and worked and did some great hassling and holding up for others. But I am afraid he is an in betweener - he aint a forward or a midfielder - but he could be a very effective substitute FORAN Also worked and worked - and makes good runs, is good in the air, makes movements and looks to play in others - but he is limited when he is playng on his own up front and/or trying to do the movement for others. Hope he gives Aldred and Hogg a really good slap - or three - a feckin clenched one ALDRED I like the lad and would start him at Aberdire but the reaction at the penalty was disgusting - it is pure feckin basics - what the feck was he doing. He is learning and can only improve - his potential outweighs his inexperience ROSS Inmy opinion is a far better choice in midfield with Tansey. I thought that he looked far more effective SUTHERLAND Again he showed enuff in a short time to cry out fer a run in the team. He may not have the pace or hassle of Tade but he is a centre forward by trade as you can see by his movement and eye to be in a position to have a go at goal and the desire to have a go.

Horses for courses and this iswhat I would go fer - which I doubt that Terry and Mo will: ESSON PIERMAYR HOGG (?TUDUR JONES) ALDRED SHINNIE DORAN TANSEY ROSS HAYES SUTHERLAND FORAN

Lets face it the ref was either told about - or possibly even shown - the incidents in the first half and that clearly influenced the decision against Tokely. I defy anybody to justify a penalty decision after watching the TV replays. Along with the red card that sole decision totally changed the game. The second was harsh but probably correct. Aldred simply was'nt concentrating and IMHO held back when he should have gone through. But the non reactions to the save by the two central defenders - Aldred and Hogg - was disgraceful - they were both feckin sleeping and switched off. :irritated:

I have to admit to a fair degree of scepticism and sarcasm regarding the manner in which this club has been financially and generally managed in the past. I have to concede that it does appear that the present "Leadreship" have learned from errors in judgement, reactive decision making, naievity and lack of communication with the support. However the business prowess of these "leaders" have improved significantly due to learning lessons, gaining in expereience, reading this forum and developing a professional business acumen. I would wish to emphasisie that despite the fear of other clubs facing harsh times and even fears bout their mere existence - ICTFC is on a firm footing and we are in good hands. Fer fecks sake they have evn brought out a leadership training package. Leadership Training - ICTFC.com

What a feckin fun house to live in.

I am reliably informed that Spurs have signed an Italian striker seen during the riots - Grabatelli.

It is negative comments like this that turn me off this forum at times.

What about one of those cards with a built in message. Could have Sorry and Good Luck for the future with a coaching signature - and when you open it it goes - "You're sh** - AAAaahhhhhhhhhhhh"

Who or what the feck is/was Marius Niculae ?

Firstly some peeple may take offence to the word orcs - secondly has this not been reciprocated at Castle Greyskull over the years.

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It was your feckin request that I became more abusive in the first place - ya dementing moose.

Piermayr back at rite back and Shinnie in at left - hopefully both Gillet and Meekins will be back at the same time. Shame fer Proctor who has been blighted by injury over the last few seasons but he needed a rest and hopefully he will come back with a bit more confidence.

Here is betting that he will have more and harder slaps this season than Tansey.

Has this not always been the case throughout the years. At the end of the day it is an apprenticeship and a valuable experience irrespective of the outcome. It is also big business with money at stake and always another potential player of the future waiting to take the place. Such rejection can be the downfall of many but it can also be the making of others - in respect that they may look at a career option and playing football at a lower level - or it can be a turning point football wise as it could make some more determined than others to prove the rejecting coaches wrong - and that is often done through reflection on why they did not make the grade - which could be many things - over confidence, not fit enough, arrogance, social behaviours etc., etc. Many have corrected their faults and failings and came up trumps elsewhere.

I wholly concur.