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Yep looking like it could be a good day at the office

Yessss, hopefully that's the 3 points in the bag now

Attendance 2780

Nice time to score as well

Scotland 3 down now, Butcher must be the luckiest guy on the planet, two football jobs and he's rubbish at them both

Surprised by that starting 11 thought Bully was a cert to get dropped

They never released the details of the budget Alex, what Adams has said is that it will allow him secure his players and backroom staff for next season, a position I wish we were in considering a great number of our squad are on 1 year deals

I see that Derek Adams has signed a one year extension to his contract, on top of that he already knows his budget for next season. They seemed to be a bit more organized across the bridge than our mob upstairs are.

Good post

Good shout but out of our financial league now I would imagine. I notice nobody has mentioned Marius yet :023: :023:

I think Dundee will win the division and once they get into their stride I think they will win it quite comfortably as well

Not sure which former player would make a good manager as its a bit of a lottery, as has been proved many times over the years the best players don't always make the best manager in fact it can be quite the reverse.

By identifying where it's all gone wrong - we are identifying who is to blame. IMO the manager is not to blame. Blame lies squarely at the board. Unfortunately as the blame lies with the board - there is absolutely nothing that any fan will be able to do. All we can do is wait for Savage to make his move and shake things up. Here's hoping he knows someone that would make a good director of football... You don't really want Savage back again do you? He might try to use his influence and pick the team !!!! Well if he was picking it I would like to know who was picking it when he left as whoever it was made a real mess of it.

I can't criticize him for those comments, emotions are running high after a game and straight after it he has to face journalists when he is still hurting from the defeat, besides most of what he said is true

Alex, to be honest I think that sums up our situation at present fairly well.

He has taken in the odd gem like Foran but the majority of his signings have been terrible.

Yes agree with that but so will we drop more points, while I see where you are coming from personally I would rather be clear at the top rather than mid table, can you honestly say that at the start of the season you would have chosen us to be in this position at this stage.

Don't need to be an expert to know the weakness's of our defence Alex :)

I don't think that you can pin it down to one thing and there are various things that have gone drastically wrong over the last few years. I think that the Niculae era could have been handled better by the club, they should have set the record straight that he wasn't earning close to 4k a week at the very start, to this day this amazes me, the guy was getting shot down for what he was reportedly earning and his employers who knew this wasn't the case left him out to dry. The Savage/Sutherland power struggle had a terrible effect throughout the club. While with hindsight re-appointing Brewster was a mistake it was a mistake that could have been salvaged if the club had got rid of him before Xmas instead of giving him more money to spend on players when it obviously wasn't working rather than take a new manager and give him a bit of time to get his signings in. Also one reason and one that I think is one of the most important in putting us in the position we are now is the way the club seem totally unable sort players contracts out when they should have been, we would not have lost a great number of the quality players that we have if these had been carried out in a professional and forward thinking manner and to make matters worse have lost nearly every quality player we have had for next to nothing. . As to our current position. At this time of season I actually prefer us being mid table but within touch. The pressure is on the top clubs week in week out and they will crack. Would rather the gap stayed at 4 points though but 7 ain't beyond reach and there's a long way to go yet. So what you are saying Alex is you are happy we have dropped all the points we have.

I don't think that you can pin it down to one thing and there are various things that have gone drastically wrong over the last few years. I think that the Niculae era could have been handled better by the club, they should have set the record straight that he wasn't earning close to 4k a week at the very start, to this day this amazes me, the guy was getting shot down for what he was reportedly earning and his employers who knew this wasn't the case left him out to dry. The Savage/Sutherland power struggle had a terrible effect throughout the club. While with hindsight re-appointing Brewster was a mistake it was a mistake that could have been salvaged if the club had got rid of him before Xmas instead of giving him more money to spend on players when it obviously wasn't working rather than take a new manager and give him a bit of time to get his signings in. Also one reason and one that I think is one of the most important in putting us in the position we are now is the way the club seem totally unable sort players contracts out when they should have been, we would not have lost a great number of the quality players that we have if these had been carried out in a professional and forward thinking manner and to make matters worse have lost nearly every quality player we have had for next to nothing. Not sure that the contract thing was the reason a number of players left. I think there may be some who didn't want to stay under Brewster. Wages were also a reason some didn't stay. When I spoke to one player about his reason for going his reply was...would you stay in your current job if you were offered three times as much to move. Yes Alex not saying with all, but for example, it was obvious that after a month or so of Cowie first coming he was a player, why not sign him up on a longer term contract then, reason we are short sighted when it comes to things like this

But thats the question. How do they know how to play us? Before this season they hadnt played us in a competitive match in over 5 years so how have they got to know our play? Good management and training. Adams seems to get his players motivated for the big games, whereas Butcher seems to have some trouble doing this from time to time. County perhaps haven't changed their tactics/squad specifically for the derbies, but in terms of the players that they have they are just the type we cannot cope with. We are large, immobile and really not physical enough. County seem to have a good mix of physical/tricky, nippy players like Gardyne. But im still bewildered by the fact that there was a mass exodus of good players from big teams due to the CC and why did we not pick up any of them??? Because we couldn't afford the wages. Has it not occured to anyone that the reason County are beating us may well be Brewster. Alex ,are you meaning because of his help to them with the fitness side of the game because I think our team has changed so much from Brewsters time he wouldn't have any more idea about how we would play than Adams

I don't think that you can pin it down to one thing and there are various things that have gone drastically wrong over the last few years. I think that the Niculae era could have been handled better by the club, they should have set the record straight that he wasn't earning close to 4k a week at the very start, to this day this amazes me, the guy was getting shot down for what he was reportedly earning and his employers who knew this wasn't the case left him out to dry. The Savage/Sutherland power struggle had a terrible effect throughout the club. While with hindsight re-appointing Brewster was a mistake it was a mistake that could have been salvaged if the club had got rid of him before Xmas instead of giving him more money to spend on players when it obviously wasn't working rather than take a new manager and give him a bit of time to get his signings in. Also one reason and one that I think is one of the most important in putting us in the position we are now is the way the club seem totally unable sort players contracts out when they should have been, we would not have lost a great number of the quality players that we have if these had been carried out in a professional and forward thinking manner and to make matters worse have lost nearly every quality player we have had for next to nothing.

Perhaps it could be argued that County outplayed us but to be honest saying the best team lost is talking tosh, who played well for us today??

Personally I would be delighted to see him and Malpas walk out the door tomorrow, however they ain't going to walk, the club couldn't afford to get rid of them even if they wanted to, so whether we like it or not they are here for a while yet so best just get on with it.

I cannot for the life of me understand TB's thinking, ICT were beaten once already, by the County, so he must have known how they played, hasn't he also got people watching them, there formations etc: and lets face it Derek Adams isn't well known as a manager but he seems to be doing the business at County. So my question is why isn't the vastly applauded TB not doing the same at ICT??? , bet Derek Adams wages, do not come NEAR TB's But Butcher is a well known manager, well known for been appalling at just about every club he has managed.