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Is there documentary evidence available online that suggest that it wasn't (e.g. a list of suspended players for that weekend)? I know it's just a newspaper preview, but.....http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/13/squad-sheets-liverpool-arsenal

The club have updated their statement on the official website to clarify that they are continuing the investigation into the matter. http://ictfc.com/news/club-news/785-league-cup-semi-final-statement

Not sure if he was part of the 25 man squad but he was definitely not listed in the starting XI or as a substitute. And as has been pointed out already, he was not listed as suspended.

I can assure you that CJT give consideration to all matters where the general feeling among our members and the wider fan community is such that discussion/action is needed. As the board are all volunteers with day jobs then it is impossible for us to give any instant response in regards our intentions on how we are to go about that...but it will happen at the earliest opportunity. In the meantime I have asked for some clarification on the statment from the official website as it's not clear if that is the final word on the matter or if the club do actually intend to look at it further.

Really disappointed that the club have let this drop on what appears to be the basis of single phone call....and the non-information provided. As I understand it, and I did a lot of reading last night (not on twitter), we would not have expected to see the suspension for the Scottish League Cup show on the certificate from the FA when he returned to Scotland as they are only duty bound to show suspensions outstanding from FA regulated leagues and tournaments. It is the responsibility of the receiving association to ensure a player has no issues outstanding from any previous registration with them. If the SFA/SFL have screwed up, of course they are going to seek a quick and easy way out....and they seem to have achieved that.

I've always envisaged that it was the Castle Street snack bar.

I missed what he got booked for....was he by any chance going through his wee routine that he does at the start of a game and after half time?

Think I need a break in order to take stock of where my life is headed.....something is clearly wrong as I find myself agreeing with yet another Charles Bannerman point!!!

The club are aware of the situation.

Nothing malicious or unexpected in the thread. Maybe thats cos you've relinquished your past status. No....I'm still an erse licking happy clapper.

No words....just heartbreak.

You're right, everyone is entitled to their opinion....but there's no entitlement involved in me having to read them (still not read the thread)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jan/21/dunfermline-reinstated-stenhousemuir-scottish-cup That's the Scottish Cup, and I believe the rules of that tournament now state "Expulsion" for playing ineligible player after a series of screw ups.

The Squirel who works for the Guardian and is claiming ban was served in the Liverpool v Arsenal match in 2010 should really have checked his papers own archives.... http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/13/squad-sheets-liverpool-arsenal

But his name was not on the suspension list for that week....suggesting he just didn't play.

Soccerbase shows he did play that game

A suspension can't just magically disappear. Nobody can show where it has been served, and everything indicates it was League Cup specific. Over to the SFL/SFA to sort it out.

Someone found the suspension lists, by date, online and he wasn't on that list.

That's not right, he was not dismissed for Violent Conduct so the red card applies only to the League Cup and he served no suspension for it in any other competition (league or cup). In short, he has never served a suspension for that red card. What is unclear is if the suspension was still hanging over him or if time away from Scottish football some how saw it quashed. I can find nothing to suggest it should/would be quashed...there's certainly no obvious precedents to suggest it would be.

.....at the matchday thread. Anyone else like me fear the OTT backlash and crap they may have to wade through in there?

Being able to, finally, stand at an SPL ground yesterday was one of the day's highlights. Well done to whoever it was who turned a blind eye. Football attendances would multiply 100-fold* if this was the general policy. *I'm exaggerating for effect Wasn't an SPL match so the "you must sit" rule does not apply.

The overall subject of fans being dealt with the same at either end of the stadium has been an ongoing topic of discussion for a long while...although surprisingly(?) it's not one that's raised it's head this season to my knowledge!!! It's an argument we will never win, IMO, and nor should we be tackling it in that manner. What sometimes comes from visiting fans does not fall into the same category as what sometimes comes from our fans and we would rather not compare them as being on any kind of equal standing. We are not making a case that the legislation is wrong or that racist/sectarian chanting is acceptable. We are making a case that what is sung/chanted by our fans does not fall within the legislation, is nothing more than banter and that our fans are being wrongly chastised and labelled.

Clacher, let me make it clear....CJT, nor any of those who will be meeting with the police, believe that these incidents should be "connected" in terms of how they are dealt with or discussed. However, we will have to deal with and be able to defend ourselves on a stance that ICT fans pose little or no risk to the safety of others or are likely to cause a situation which could lead to unrest...and any/all incidents can, in the view of the authorities (whether we agree with it or not), fall into that category. Certain events fell in the club, and persons, favour with regards the smoke bomb that was thrown at Ross County which made it hard to identify the individual and the club got away without sanction because we have such a good record and it was felt that this was likely to have been a one off. The individual does not have to be identified in order for the club to face sanctions, so it could still have happened. What did happen though, and you can call it over zealous if you wish....I agree...but things like bag searches and crowd surveillance were stepped up. CJT have been monitoring that situation, but our hope was that with no repeat incidents it would be short lived and everything would go back to normal fairly quickly. Not spoken to the whole CJT board, but my own personal opinion is that bag searches etc will now continue longer and we have a weakened case to complain about it. On the subject of the smoke bomb, warnings as to the possible consequences after the last one have been ignored and the likelihood of the club being sanctioned are high. In regards to the singing/chanting of "traveller" related words/terms. We have taken advice from several people (legal and otherwise) on the matter and go in to that meeting highly confident that we can clear the matter up and put it to bed once and for all. In fact, legislation stands in our favour and we are not fighting the legislation, but the application of the legislation. No such position exists for us to defend fans in regards to throwing items on to the field of play (smoke bombs or otherwise)...and to be honest, I wouldn't personally seek to try and defend such actions...and find it a little strange that others on here think it's a matter that should just be ignored!!! CJT are working hard with the club to find ways to remove the things that fans perceive/believe are spoiling the matchday experience and stuff like this badly hinders that process. We're happy to be doing these things...it's a large part of why we exist...but the fans also need to realise they have a part to play in helping themselves, us and the club. After the first smoke bomb my thoughts were that I hoped the person didn't get caught and that would be the end of it....a one off silly moment, lessons learned, warnings heeded and we move on. After the one yesterday I find myself hoping that they are caught because these things harm everyone. We've got fans telling us they will not tolerate any more pocket/bag searches or being actively filmed at matches and would rather just not come. Some people might want to call that an overreaction, personally I see it as wanting to nip an issue in the bud before it gets out of hand.

I only go to the big games.

If it's not broken!!!