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Bet way to re-start or kick start a season is usually to shut up shop and build form the back with solid defending throughout and clean sheets, then focus on doing the basics well and build from there. I'm not sure we have the versatility of management to really change things round like that - its always just persist with the status quo and fingers crossed. While we went on a decent run, then horror run before finishing strong last season, we seem to have a very fragile squad in terms of confidence (they always say it mirrors results) - very rarely do we have a single bad result then bounce back strongly, it drags on until we almost fluke a positive and then build again. Whether this is down to management or lack of leaders in the squad its not clear but we very much are a yo-yo team in terms of results.

I'm sure they will leave the damage to the pitch instead which will cost more than the game brings in for the club to fix

I'd try touting him for the DUtd job and see if he moves on to 'better' options

Who said there was a contract to pay for facilities? Unless there is a list of creditors produced and outstanding invoices its all conjecture, but you are correct if there was and the invoices hadn't already been paid then the club will have lost out on monies

For who? As the venture failed we will never know whether any money would have been returned to the club or otherwise. Suppose there's 2 camps - those who believe and those who are cynical!!!

OOOooooffftttt, thats not aged well has it

Which is it, we lack ambition or we are signing exciting talents - cant be both IMO We sign players based on either being back up to key squad, youth we can develop and cash in on, or highly experienced first team members - perhaps these players meet some of those criteria and perhaps the ambition matches the requirement?

Since I need to justify my attendance, then yes I have been on matchdays and as such done so the last 20 odd years. Other than recently when large areas of the parking were re-purposed then citing capacity car parks and turning away cars is not regular. Even in the Premiership the car parks have never been full - inefficient stewarding and positioning of cars may give that false appearance though. As for buses there's been supporters club buses running for as long as I can remember, any additional service buses are only an advantage and would enable the reduction in car use.

TBF the amount of land available for parking is not required. Maintaining some space suited for coaches, disabled and a small quantity of general parking may be more than sufficient. The percentage of fans who park in the stadium designated car park is very small probably driven by the costs when there is significant free parking available elsewhere or the preference to use public transport (which the club & council should be looking to push further given the national 'green agenda'.

Every time I see mention of financial results, it reminds me of this little gem that was thrown out there and the toys from the pram by a board member when questioned on the financial running of the club and how exactly an increased income would be utilised to improve sustainability. Seems like little has changed and the only hope is a bigger begging bowl.

^ Agreed and the reality is whether people see it or not is that was the weakest Championship and poorest quality competition we have had in relegation, the gulf between the bottom of the Premiership and upper Championship is growing faster than ever fully driven by the disparity in money. Over 2 legs we were comfortably thumped by a St Johnstone team that had only 0.7 goals per game all season yet averaged 3 against us, the statistics of the 2 sides over the season just show how a team that cant socre or defend in the upper league is strides ahead of the inverse from below. There will be a turn around of players again this season and maybe more youngsters but this will not put us in a position different to any other team, the challenge may be whether the bank rolled clubs like Cove & Queens Park continue to operate at a loss to recruit talent. Being realistic next season should be play-offs again, expecting Dundee to be the strongest team but without a bucket of cash we will always be relying on a lot of luck to get promoted.

At the point when dodds was getting abuse was our rotten mid season form which was well deserved criticism and perhaps then we would have settled for where we are. However given how poor the quality of teams in the league has been its clear some better results in that period and we'd have been already in the Premiership next year!!!

You do realise that any yellow cards or reds (from regular league season)count towards suspensions carried into the play-offs, and while there may be 11 days, the idea of getting your best players un-necessarily injured (where they may be out for more than 11 days) is mental talk.

They won't be included. Pretty sure the match pricing of these games is done by the spfl although sold through the clubs. Expect an announcement on sales will be once the final game is over since technically 4th place finisher is not decided yet.

Suppose if knowing big kirk is in the toilet watching over is something you'd like then I suppose the club has to cater for all kinds,but I was thinking a bit more along the photos, autographs and general bit of banter with the families and some kids who might enjoy the chance to be around their idols. But each to their own.

You sending that same comment to Dick Campbell too so he's not resting his key men in his dead rubber game too!!!

All senior players should be rested and do PR duties with kids & fans. Club should be giving tickets away for free to schools/community groups etc since its a total dead rubber and place will be dead otherwise.

You want rid of Bradford and Doran as they are aging, yet keep Mckay & Sutherland? TBH, there probably is a case that the squad needs a bit of an overhaul and certainly hasn't got the strength and depth for Premiership football with certain players probably not able to compete at that level, but much will depend on what league we are in.

Getting back on topic Ayr look to be safe, so hopefully its a bit of a 'end of season' game for them - stuck in the no-mans land mid table. Take a scrappy win and head into the Killie game for an Ayrshire double. QoS may be the toughest fixture of all, fighting for their place in the Championship (although depending on the next 2 games they may be cut adrift completely and game over), away on a Tuesday night - even a point would be a decent result Then the final 2 games are dead rubbers for those mid table clubs, hopefully the blood youngsters and its holiday mode. Good chance for ICT to get through unbeaten - 15 points is highly unlikely but 3 wins and 2 draws realistic (which given the patchy form of everyone in this league could be enough for 2nd place)

Least this in the media all will deflect from the usual increase in A&E attendances, fighting in the streets, looting and smashing up areas of the city and beating of wives and partners which should anger more than just the small % of society that is football fans.

Maybe so, but if a fan was to attend Ibrox or Parkhead to sit in the home section with a rival shirt they would be ejected. Yet you are right I have seen Rangers and Celtic fans in the past sitting in the home section at our stadium with no action taken. Again this is what is wrong with the greed of Scottish football. As for how you control the purchase of tickets - if the OF for visits (especially of each other) only allow in addition to ST, purchases through supporters clubs/groups and no general sales, then why cant the rest of Scottish football do the same? Simple answer - money. While the fans of 40 clubs unanimously look on in disgust and horror at the actions of OF fans and the shame they bring to the image of the game up here, our clubs chairmen and SPFL look on with glee at the cash cow it brings demonstrating the utter contempt for anyone else associated with the game here including their own fan base.

Which IMO, is the hyporcitical crap in Scottish football which gives the greenlight for their clubs and fans to conduct themselves in any manner they see fit without repercussions. While I understand no club wants to 'cut off their nose etc' but realistically when a club offers approx 700 way tickets out of a stadia of (50/60000) - marginally over 1%, the idea that in return the other clubs are happy to offer as much as 3 stands in some cases (60-70%) of the capacity to OF fans (with the known hate and bile they bring at the detriment of their own fans) then its all that is wrong and just says everything is ok and fair game when its cash!!!!

Same old ****, nothing changes and never will - just add it to the list along other actions which shame the Scottish game. There will be some initiatives launched, outrage tweeted or in media interviews by (including but not limited to) - politicians (who see it as point scoring opportunities), the police, clubs involved (usual media spin) and then the SPFL board. We all know what needs to happen - guilty clubs hit hard with big fines (maybe proportional to the gate money income or higher), serious warnings then closed door games or docking points. None of it will happen though - we will be discussing this or another similar topic/event next season and the one after into infinity.

Unfortunately not the 2 any sane fan would hope in order to avoid any contact with them in a league setting. The scenes yesterday show exactly what we aren't missing and being in a league where you don't have to consider whether to avoid certain games (home or away) or if its an environment to take kids along is somewhat a nice feeling that I sometimes thing lower league fans overlook.