Charles Bannerman

Yup. And equally, a Highlander posting derogatrory stuff about southern Scots.... that's OK as well!!! :D

I checked with the SFL this afternoon at which point they hadn't fixed a time. However they said the most likely time would be towards the end of this week.

Apologies if this has emerged elsewhere in the reams which have been written about this game which I have not read, but Sportsound will carry full match commentary from tomorrow's cup tie. Commentary will be by Bill Leckie and Des McKeown will be summarising. It is accessible on 810 Medium Wave all afternoon and also on the Radio nan Gaidheal frequency (103.5-105FM) pre match and from 3:30. This is because R nan G transmit a Gaelic Service from 3-330. I'm not sure what the arrangements are for the Diasporate on the internet but I'm sure Scotty will know and could post these when he wakes up.

I'm afraid Mr. Mapplebeck's whippets are long gone, never to return to Grant Street Park. Even if they could do, they would probably fall foul of the Health and Safety Police. A golden age departed.

Interesting point of view because in parallel terms, various managers and directors at ICT have had considerable qualifications when it comes to running a football team or a company, but that doesn't seem to have deterred certain individuals from coming on here and telling them the apparent error of their ways.

Normally if a company wants to raise more money it hold a Share Issue or a Rights Issue. The strange thing is that there seems to be this view prevalent among some football fans that it's up to the Directors constantly to bail out the company's finances. Why not the fans? Maybe they should raise season ticket prices by 50% and that would help, rather than continually calling on the Directors.

Why should they? Why should you expect your Saturday afternoon entertainment to be subsidised by other people?

Hello cheeldren.... everywhah.... :P

What happens is that a variety of papers commission the local freelance or sports agency to give them a specified number of words which they may then tweak in a tabloid or a broadsheet direction but essentially it's the same story. In other words, broadsheets tend to prefer a long, pretentious and apparently unrelated introductory sentence while tabloids use an abbreviated form of everybody's name, ending, where possible, in "o".

mr spence would be horrified to hear that he's a dundee fan!! despite his son playing for them jim's an arab!! heillandee and davie will vouch for that! Yup. I can confirm that as well. Spencie has Arab leanings but has encyclopaedic knowledge of the game as whole in the City of Discovery. And as for the papers not having "a man at the game" that is really such complete nonsense that it barely warrants a response. Even Highland League games have reporters filing material for newspapers. First Division games typically have around six print journalists present. And apart from what was in the Sundays, please, when you turn to the local press, also be aware that Garaham Linton, Stephen Kasiewicz and Paul Chalk were there on behalf of the Courier, PandJ and HN so please don't try to attribute what you read there to Jim Spence as well!

Mrs PB... as I said before the season started if a team is near the top of the First Division or playing another team near the top, there will be a fair to good chance of coverage on Open All Mics as part of the programme's live coverage of the whole of Scottish League football. The format is that all 3pm KO SPL games are covered along with perhaps two or three from the lower leagues which for most of the season tends to be the prime First Division fixtures. I also unserstand that there is an Open All Mics "twittering" service or whatever it's called which is another good option. It's interesting here how an activity which seems to have originated as a means for the self obsessed to give the world an unsolicited running commentary on their boring lives can actually be put to some positive use here.

It doesn't look (or smell) good in front of anybody anywhere!

Only if someone nearby farts and even then it's a lot shorter acting and less unpleasant than fagreek. It's a small down side to the wonderful benefits of freedom from the said fagreek in pubs and other public places. The only problem now is that when you walk along the street you catch it from people standing outside and I wish something could be done about that as well. (*) I simply cannot agree that because smoking in non enclosed places is (still :angry: ) legal there should be an obligation to provide facilities. ... unless the cigarette companies who sell these dreadful things were to do so because certainly nobody else should be responsible for the cost of doing this. Come to think of it, if the fag companies could provide ghettoes for smokers, that might help to solve the new problem of nasty niffs in the street. Or how about simply converting St. Kilda into the only part of the British Isles where its' legal to smoke? * take as an example Baron Taylor's Street which must be the most unhealthy street in Inverness with three pubs, two bookies and a fast food joint as well (according to the HN) as having junkies shooting up with regularity (oh yes, and the Haelth Food shop as well) Walking along smoke polluted Baron Taylor Street is an absolute nightmare.

I would have to emphasise that, as a humble freelance contributor, I have no part in BBC editorial policy nor an especially detailed knowledge of it. However, on past experience, it seems that the "Sportscotland" page of the website and transmissions via the airwaves generally only carry pre match interviews with SPL managers. The same situation applies post match, except perhaps in exceptional circumstances. As far as the national media in general are concerned, one of the consequences of relegation for ICT will most certainly be a huge reduction of coverage - just as there was a huge increase on promotion in 2004. As far as the local scene is concerned, the BBC local transmissions, where I do have editorial input, will be continue a relatively high level of coverage and in the Friday/ Monday morning preview/review we will continue to carry some interview material. However that will not be in every bulletin since there are several competing attractions in a very large transmission area, in much of which there is actually very little interest in ICT. However, I have to say that since we now have two First Division clubs in the area as opposed to one SPL and one D1, there is likely to be a degree of equalisation between coverage of ICT and Ross County. I would imagine, however, that the Courier and the HN will continue to be in a position to give extensive coverage as before despite relegation since ICT continues to be the major interest by some way within their more localised circulation area.

Two questions. 1) Was any broadcaster at East End Park with a camera to take the necessary footage. (Foootball clubs who do in house coverage don't count as broadcasters.) 2) Will a First Division match really attract much coverage on STV News (see below) who have SPL teams in Perth, Dundee and Aberdeen to focus on? I don't recollect "North Tonight" doing all that much on St. Johnstone games when they were in the First Division nor on Dundee or Ross County. (By the way, North Tonight, although I still use the term myself, disappeared as a title along with the incorporation of Grampian into STV.) I genuinely don't know the answer to either question and the second depends on what STV's editorial policy is with regard to the First Division. But certainly access to coverage of ICT and its games will, apart from the local media, generally be a whole lot less than in the days of the SPL. On the other hand it will possibly be comparable to the pre SPL era although Football First is no longer.

That is more or less correct. It's at Grant Street Park from 9:30am - 4pm on Sunday 30th August. MODS - this could conveniently be "promoted" to "Non ICT" since it is not a rumour (in other words it's past the "mibbiz aye, mibbiz naw" stage :) ) and indeed Clach are keen to publicise it as much as possible..

Pearls to swine Celtic 3 Caley 1, pearls to swine! :D I actually showed the working in my original post but unfortunately you appear not even to be able to identify it as such! :wacko:

Donald - you clearly missed the more ironic dimension of the statistic I revealed. The odds against four consecutive home draws against Third Divsion opposition are indeed enormous. It would only have required a tiny fraction of that good fortune in the last four weeks of last season for Caley Thistle to have stayed in the SPL. It would seem, therefore, that ICT got a huge break when it really didn't matter and failed to get a modest one when it really did.

With Barry Wilson in the kind of scoring form he's been in of late? By the way, that's four home draws and all against Third Division opponents that ICT have had in these four early season cup ties. Barring me making a small slip somewhere in identifying clubs as D3, which wouldn't actually make a massive amount of difference to the final answer, I make the odds against drawing Third Division opposition at home four times in a row in these cups more than 6000 to 1! The probability of 4 home draws of any kind is a half to the power 4, or 1 in 16. When you then incorporate the probabilities at each of the four stages of getting a D3 side as opposed to D1 or 2 that lengthens the odds considerably to 1 in over 6000.

How stupid of me! The Manager The Players THE BOARD The Stewards Mike Smith The Mods and Admin Car Parking David F Sutherland Caley D's announcing The PA system The official website The ballboys The pitch The pies The toilets The weather Fred Goodwin

I've been briefly away at the "Non ICT" forum and as a result I'm now back with another one:- The Official Website. So let's see... that now seems to give us The Manager The Players The Stewards Mike Smith The Mods and Admin Car Parking David Sutherland Caley D's announcing The PA system The official website The ballboys The pitch The pies The toilets The weather Fred Goodwin

I agree wholeheartedly, but unfortunately this kind of psychology has been a feature of this forum for some time now. I suppose that it's just that some people need football as a medium to express certain deepseated and sometimes even subconscious dissatisfactions in their lives. As a result there's they create a hierarchy of targets within the football ground and when criticising one isn't possible, they move on to the next in the pecking order. Such a hierarchy/ pecking order might typically read - The Manager The Players The Stewards Mike Smith Car Parking Caley D's announcing The PA system The ballboys The pitch The pies The toilets The weather Fred Goodwin you forgot the "admins/mods" Charles ... thats in there somehwere between car parking and the manager depending on the day of the week ........ So I did! And also forgot about David Sutherland. He has been featuring on the list at points too... peaking perhaps just behind the mods/admin.

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I agree wholeheartedly, but unfortunately this kind of psychology has been a feature of this forum for some time now. I suppose that it's just that some people need football as a medium to express certain deepseated and sometimes even subconscious dissatisfactions in their lives. As a result there's they create a hierarchy of targets within the football ground and when criticising one isn't possible, they move on to the next in the pecking order. Such a hierarchy/ pecking order might typically read - The Manager The Players The Stewards Mike Smith Car Parking Caley D's announcing The PA system The ballboys The pitch The pies The toilets The weather Fred Goodwin

Celtic actually lost 5-0 to Artmedia.... and then almost pulled it off at Celtic Park! Can't see the Dons or Motherwell getting as close I'm afraid. So far then, that's Falkirk out, Aberdeen and Motherwell with almost impossible deficits and Celtic on a dicky wicket too since it won't be easy to pull back a one goal deficit in Moscow with their opponents also in possession of an away goal. I would imagine Celtic are regretting mising out on the SPL title which would have put them straight into the group stages. As it stands, it's now looking fairly likely that for (at least?) the third time in five seasons, a member of the Old Firm will fail to get past the Champions League qualifying stages and be out of Europe after two games. And the financial turnover of the OF clubs is several times greater than that of any other club in Scottish Football. In practice, Scotland is way out of its depth in European football. In summary, it seems more than possible that four of the Scottish representatives could be out of Europe before the fifth one, Rangers, have even started. Nobody seems to have noticed that I forgot about Hearts. It's only now that I'm realising that Scotland has (had!) SIX teams in Europe (albeit one of these just for being "decent chaps"). That's a very large number for a small country which has footballing "independence" thanks only to an historical anomaly and where standards of play are relatively poor.