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As you should. Why should the club pay for fans to misbehave?

Now isn't that a really stupid move from really stupid fans? Another name on the score sheet, though. Seven now..but fans still determined to spoil the day for the players.

Now isn't that a really stupid move from really stupid fans? Another name on the score sheet, though.

Congratulations to all at ICT. :026: CaleyD's post says it all for me.

Golly's out for Ayr, I think. 1 match from the 20th?

Jesus wept....I have watched this forum's comments fluctuate according to results. I don't post much..because I do realism, not game to game complete irrationality. ICT can react how they like......and it is great that many fans posting on here have...compared to a dozen games ago, stopped the " we are entitled and Butcher is crap" spewing.....but it is just about time that ICT supporters got their heads round the fact that there are two teams in a game...and t'other team is mostly as good as ICT...and we cannot legislate for their efforts on the day. There is plenty to stop ICT winning the League.....like every other team we still have to play being as determined as ICT. Very lucky win against Raith..great result...well done...but don't let us believe that it was anything other than that......and keep our collective fingers crossed that we are as lucky in the next six games.

For sure....but there are ways of putting a POV across and there is slagging..........and a POV acknowledges good things, while highlighting bad things.....and slagging is posts such those which trash players/management because those players/management are not to your taste, even if you are in the minority..by a large amount.....and even if everything they do/have done is not all bad. Nobody is all bad, and no actions are all bad....and refusing to acknowledge any good in anyone is slagging, imo. We can all have different views..the world would be boring if we did not.......however, different views does not necessitate that those views are not tempered by acknowledgement of the good things as well as the strident denunciation of the bad things. Some on here appear to do strident denunciation to the exclusion of all else.....and that is the attitude which makes some wonder as to the honesty of their avowed allegiance to ICT.

Because it makes the trashers seem important in their own minds....which does appear to be the total sum of their ambitions? Sad people or what? No problems with trashing where deserved....provided that there is the occasional acknowledgment of adequacy, even if they are not prepared to admit anything more. I have to say, if I were an ICT player stupid enough to read this forum.......I'd be giving many on here the two finger salute......because nothing will ever satisfy those who have played themselves at the highest level and have won every honour going...even if their accolades were acquired in their dreams. I get the impression that there are not as many true supporters on here as they would have us believe. I get the impression that there are many on here who only support as long as the team does well, and who got into ICT supporting, as opposed to the Glasgow and Edinburgh Old Firm supporting, because ICT were in the SPL.......and one of twelve, and who now find it hard to keep up the enthusiasm given that ICT has dropped from relative SFA importance...and are back on a par with Ross County. I think it sad that there are people who prefer to trash rather than encourage players/management.....particularly when those trashers would be hard pushed to score a goal from a penalty or set piece themselves.......or to decide which player was the most capable of doing so. Easy to trash from the position of knowing nothing more than that you have an opinion...and caring about nothing other than that opinion. That is called pontificating from minimal knowledge, imo.

Maybe in his younger days he had a coach........or a watching crowd...... who constantly castigated him for missing, rather than praise him for trying. ;) Imo..that will tend to make one think twice about trying the obvious. Wonder how long it will take if/when he gets confidence, shoots for goal in a position where he has options....and misses a lot......for people will be complaining because he is a glory hunter who won't give the ball to a better placed player? Damned in either case, I should think. B)

And the world you inhabit is where outside the planet earth? Yep.everyone knows their careers, future prospects, remuneration, etc, are hardly going to be enhanced by another season, or more in Div1..but you do kinda have to think that every other team in Div1 is not endeavoring to get up there....and you kinda have to think that those teams are prepared to forego their aspirations to allow ICT yours. You can battle tooth and nail for every available point remaining in this league...but other teams are going to do the same. ICT has no divine right to immediate resurrection...whatever some fans might think. Strikes me that it is much more sensible to offer new contracts to the nucleus of a team for next season, whichever league it is in which they might play......otherwise next season, we will have three players and no management. That seem a sensible way to go?

Which is akin to closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.

I assume that all those entities who quote directly from threads here and print off posts for passing around have received permission from either the individual/s making the post/s, or the administrators of the forum, depending who holds the copyright?

Nope...a public forum is one on which anybody and their dog can read all threads and posts without joining...and may join if they are interested in the type of stuff discussed. The requirement to join in order to read posts makes it a specific interest forum open to any interested member of the public....but that does not make it a forum available to the public. I repeat, he did not say anything in public.......he said whatever it was that offended within the confines of this specific interest forum to the 2,111 members of it...and somebody within this specific interest forum took offence. Beats me why that somebody could not just have given the ICT side of the story within the confines of this forum.

So you are saying that the ICT board's rights extend to one, other or a minion joining a fan's forum and reporting on what was said in private? Because this forum does require joining to read posts.........if it didn't I would probably not be here....got loads of other stuff to occupy my online time. As far as I am concerned....if CaleyD had done something to offend in public.....then he can take the consequences. However....as far as I can see......this forum is not a public one as I define public.......so, to read what is being said about anything at all it does require joining. Therefore, if you want to do logic........somebody has joined and has reported back to the ICT board....otherwise they would have no more idea of CaleyD's opinions than I would if I was reading without joining. ....and believe me.........if I could have read posts without joining I would have. Nothing to do with rights, imo.....more to do with decency. Yep, if someone involved, even in a voluntary capacity in ICT has trashed them in public...then I would have no problems with them being penalised. However, what long standing members might have forgotten....this is most definitely not a public forum....so if anyone joins in order to gain information as to fans' opinions in order to keep the Board informed........they are spying. Simple as. Revbirdog, do you not do logic.....or are you an ICT board apologist?

And the conflict of interest is where, exactly? Has CaleyD ever in public trashed the plonkers who run ICT? This forum requires that you join before you can read...therefore it is NOT a public forum......NOT A PUBLIC FORUM! Nothing CaleyD has ever said re the ICT board has been viewable by anyone but members. I think very little of any member of the ICT board if they join a fans' forum only to spy on what is being said without the decency/ability/will to take on board what is being said...and even less if they are encouraging ICT minions to report back to them (though the minions kinda need to look at themselves as well if they would like to claim a semblance of decency). Being a cynic par excellence......I do wonder if CaleyD has been skirting the truth, and the board are not too happy with that......methinks that penalising people for their opinions means that those opinions are nearer to the bone than the board are prepared to admit. The whole thing is little short of a disgrace and does make one wonder what the board is trying to hide.

Poor poor show. By the way, got a tip off about this, very good My name is Gordon Urquhart Season book 00948 I am Spartacus... Love it! ROFLMAO!

ICT certainly used to do the school holiday courses........but maybe not now they are so hard up. But given the number of schools from Inverness to Nairn, maybe the school holidays just aren't long enough to get up to Caithness and Sutherland.

Probably. The Inverness/Nairn envelope has a much larger proportion of options than the whole of Ross-shire and Skye. More schools= more kids............so I suppose less reason to look elsewhere and increase the cost of travel for the club. Have to say I did think that ICT had kids from other counties....but they were maybe not picked up through the community system but through scouting.

Ooops! what do the asterisks say...I don't read asterisks..comes with being a pensioner, I do better with decent English. Just how much more pathetic is it than Ross County......given that ICT has two of their squad in the Scotland under 16's as of now? How many Ross County players have been called up to play for their country lately? So Scotland scouts think those specific players are good enough to be called up..but you know different. Out of interest, how many Ross County u-19 players have had a decent run in the first team? If you have a friend playing for ICT who thinks it is crap...why has he not managed to find himself another better youth squad? I was under the impression that ICT resigns youth players from year to year...so all he has to do is refuse to resign if it is that bad, and tout his skills among other teams. If you have written to ICT regarding their youth policy, more power to your elbow..if you phrased it better than this post. However you have singularly failed to show where the youth setup at ICT is markedly different to that at Ross County, bar the fact that ICT has dropped their under 19 squad..and I have already said that I felt that that was a big mistake......and something which will eventually come back and bite them on the bum.

more like "if only someone else handled the contract negotiations" Why does ICT need a DOF anyway? Never understood why it was necessary in the SPL, and there appears even less reason to have one now.

Can you explain to me how they can show how good they are (regardless of whether you are talking about the current ex U-19s or the current Scotland U-16 players and any other decent players in the youth system) if ICT is not prepared to give them a chance..........and a chance is not sitting on the bench and getting on for the last few minutes of a game already won. The Hamilton system would be just as crap as you think the the ICT one is, if directors/management were not prepared to take a chance and accept the consequences. ICT is not prepared to take that chance because they fear the consequences. There is nothing wrong with the ICT youth system, as far as it goes....there is, however a problem with the attitude of the ICT hierarchy towards their youth system...as evidenced by the removal of the under 19 tier, which is the one which holds onto the best of those trained at cost to ICT over the years. Out of interest, just how do you know that the ICT youth set-up doesn't even look across all the Highlands? How could you know, as there is minimal information given about the youth setup on ICT's website compared to other teams within the system, such as Ross County? (is this not going off topic a shade? maybe worth a thread of its own)

Liam Polworth, and to an extent Kyle Whyte? We've also got Nick Ross and Graeme Shinnie, but sadly we are stuck with a management team, who just don't rate them. Is it not rate.......or is it just that directors/management are still in the "get back up this season" mindset, and experience in ICT's U-19 youth squad pales into insignificance compared to those with even limited experience of games in the lower divisions elsewhere? Perhaps, if/when, we are sitting comfortably in the middle of the table, out of relegation or promotion danger, then the building for the future will begin and good younger players will get their chance to show what they can do. If not, why bother having a youth set-up at all? We neither appear to use it or make money out of it.

Did the player who set up his goal not also come from ICT as well?

I notice Gordon Smith is ready to seek talks over a winter shutdown in Scottish leagues. Here But the heid bummer of the SPL disagrees here Anyone think beating the drum about a winter shutdown for years will do any good against the attitudes of those who think tradition is all........even if the supporters end up with double pneumonia?

It was the night before the derby in Dingwall. That's possibly a contributory factor. Yeah..........that would explain it! Thanks!