STFU

4 hours ago, ICTPaisley said:

It might be worthwhile putting up a list of all businesses we now need to boycott.

Nobody NEEDS to do anything they don't want to, and there will be those who are happy to keep on throwing their hard earned at the club for any number of reasons; from blind faith that things will improve, to those with kids where it's tough to explain and stop taking them to games.

It comes down to individuals to decide, and ultimately everyone's reasoning is legitimate, even if it is based on false information (they choose who to believe). 

I'm just interested in seeing what others are doing/close to doing beyond complaining on here.

A question for all those who aren't happy with how things are at the club.  What are you going to do about it?

I didn't renew my season ticket and am actively avoiding giving business to sponsors and advertisers (where possible) who, in my view, are just propping up the current regime.  I've also stopped buying local newspapers because journalists are spineless and not asking the questions I think they should be asking, or highlighting the issues, both on and off the park.

I don't blame the team/players, but it's impossible to be there to cheer them on without also supporting the wages and investment of those who have the power to change things and sit back doing nothing.

Listening to the post match interview, it sounded like Dodds was talking about the team lacking motivation.  Unsurprisingly, he didn't seem to have identified it as that and just talked about how disappointed he was and how he was feeling.  Yet again, no signs of leadership or accountability, so little wonder he can't motivate the team.

7 minutes ago, caley1 said:

What does Scott Gardiner actually bring to the club ? 

@Robert has a list, but not the time to share it

I have hope, but no expectation.

Regardless of any thoughts on squad strength, I have no faith that Dodds has the tactical wherewithal to get the best out of them, nevermind any ability to outsmart the opposition and have us punching above our weight.

Not once have I ever seen him take responsibility as leader, and there's already signs in post match interviews this season that he is, once again, willing to throw others to the wolves to deflect from his own deficiencies as a manager and coach.

The important question is "What is acceptable?" and if the clubs ambition is to be in the Premiership, then anything less than promotion is not.

This ongoing lowering of fan expectations is a sign that the club's only success is dumbing us down and convincing us to keep on paying for a sub standard product while manager/coaches, DoF and CEO continue to pocket a wage they're not deserving of.

They're here to train the cleaning staff.

2 minutes ago, RednBlackComeback said:

Well done on a good-looking and thorough presentation.

Just a shame that only 316 people completed the survey. No doubt the club will view this as unrepresentative and ignore it!?

If you use average home match attendance as a measure then it's about 15%, which is within the expected/acceptable range for customer satisfaction surveys.

Not read it yet, but managed to get it open.

Getting a Page Not Found error when clicking the link.

Main Stand Season Ticket = £396

Advanced Purchase Match Ticket = £22 x 18 = £396.

Saving on Season Ticket = Zero

3 minutes ago, Robert said:

No offence but I’ve better ways of spending my time!!

Classic

It would have taken less time to type the list!

1 hour ago, bdu98196 said:

If anyone wants to tag Dodds and the club on this right now, it'll get the excuse set up nice and early this year

We're clearly victims of if our own success and what we need is a season without any cup runs or play offs in order to get a better start and avoid being ravaged by injury.

Being out of the League Cup already means we're off to a good start in preparation for next season.

2 hours ago, Robert said:

In your eyes the club is incapable of doing anything right!

Feel free to provide me with a list of things which are contrary to that view and I'll reconsider my opinion.

2 hours ago, Robert said:

I got an e-mail from the club this morning with their match preview and the other news stories they’d issued this week. Hopefully a sign of better engagement and communication?

Not necessarily.  Spreading and distributing poor info/communication via more outlets does not improve the quality.  It just means that more people will be subjected to it.

I suspect people are calling for the manager's head based on a little more than the last 2 games

If we don't have the finances to sack the manager, then we don't have the finances to sign any more players.  If we can only afford one of those options, then it should be cheerio to Dodds, and a whip around to get rid of the person who gave him a 2 year extension.

Agree with those advocating for giving the player a chance.  He's looking to step up a level and isn't going to turn down a chance at that, especially on a 2 year contract.

What does continue to concern me is the fact that the clubs stated ambitions don't match the markets we're shopping in for players, and we're taking the same risks with signings that have bitten us on the ass the last few seasons.

If you always do what you've always done etc etc.

So it's looking like walk up prices for adults in main stand will be around £25, or season tickets will be poor value for money.

Another wee nod to the empire from the club?

On 8/3/2022 at 2:05 PM, CaleyD said:

This is not intended as an opinion on what the trust should or should not do.  I post this purely for information and because Peter has stated that he stands willing to be corrected.

This snippet is from the clubs articles of association.

As at the last return, there are 4,902,379 ordinary shares issued.

Supporters Trust have 13,658 shares, of which 108 have enhanced rights....leaving 13,550 "ordinary" rights.

The enhanced shares are, in todays terms, equal to 490,237 shares....and we then add the 13,550....total 503,787

As per the company articles 900,003 of the ordinary shares carry no voting right, so issued shares with voting powers total 4,002,376 and this gives the trust a voting right of approx 12.6% in real terms

This is the second largest single entity voting right which exists within the club right now and far surpasses the total voting right of all current directors combined.  The largest shareholding/voting right sits with the ICT Trust (a different entity to the supporters trust).

The company articles state no need for club directors to stand down and/or be reelected by rotation.  They have the power to appoint new directors and are, at present, entirely self appointed with no elected members on the board.

A shareholder resolution can be raised by giving sufficient notice ahead of any general meeting for the election of a board member.  The Supporters Trust could do that now if they so desired.

The current board do not hold anything like sufficient shares between them to stop that resolution and would need support from others to do so...if they so wished.

According to this information from CaleyD then, unless anything has changed, the Supporters Trust have the second largest voting right.

Maybe a loan deal, or his contract has a release clause allowing him to go if a club at a certain level comes in for him, or his registration with Aveley didn't complete for some reason?

35 minutes ago, Eagle4Caley said:

Hold on, let’s remember that the Club gave both players a years extension to their contracts, when the likelihood was they might not get back on the pitch in that season, that is hardly being unfair, given that iCT arent a rich club.

Obviously what we don’t know is the extent that either the Club or the players carry some sort of ‘medicare’ insurance cover for injuries and operations that are almost certainly going to be via private healthcare. I would imagine given the lower end of the pay scale that anyone playing in the Championship is on, a player relies heavily on the help the PFA can provide, who as the Player Union seem to provid little support on contracts [maybe non- payment and disputes but not negoiations], so it is good if the pFA have been able to help Walsh

I get the comment on the club’s communications skills…. A simple statement in good time addressing the contract situations of both players might have quelled some of the disquiet amongst some fans. It shouldn’t be difficult, and Gardiner has been adept at putting out long statements from time to time

 

Meanwhile, I’m delighted to see the signing of Adam Brook who sounds a promising addition, and without the injury history that is attached to many of our players

 

Tom Walsh was not given an extension after injury.  He signed for 2 years in 2021.

Duke didn't say unfair, he said uncaring, and that was in reference to the club not demonstrating any public well wishes on the player.  Which is fair and accurate statement.

Maybe chose to say nothing about the club to avoid any nonsense statements from Gardiner, which does nobody any favours, but does leave lots of questions, especially given the club's recent history with such things.

Or maybe the club have left the door open to him for a return after he recovers and he doesn't want to burn any bridges, but then you'd have expected some comment on him being well looked after?

As with most things ICTFC, who knows?

On 7/6/2023 at 6:58 PM, STFU said:

If he was a Celtic Youth and he's turned down a contract offer from them, then we'll have to pay a development fee.  Unlikely Celtic will wave that, but it'll be the only way we could afford him.

Or maybe we can.  2 year deal

I like the strip, but the larger looking sponsor logo destroys it

5 hours ago, Bobby said:

Strong rumours suggesting we are signing Adam Brooks from Celtic B. A 19 year old forward. No signings from our u18s this year? 

If he was a Celtic Youth and he's turned down a contract offer from them, then we'll have to pay a development fee.  Unlikely Celtic will wave that, but it'll be the only way we could afford him.