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Why is a topic that relates to player behaviour locked?

Players are role models whether they like it or not so why has discussion been suppressed relating to a player being found with an alleged illegal substance?

If the player was accused of assault or drink driving would the discussion be suppressed?

The reason I write this is because there is a serious discussion being undertaken in Australia about elite sportspersons and illegal drugs.

In the AFL (Australian Rules) I very high profile player (player of the season a few years ago) has been allowed to get away with blatant drug problems for years because he continued to play good football.  It was only when his drug problem esculated and his off field behaviour became impossible to ignore that he was finally suspended indefinatley by his club.  The point is that they ignored his problem while he delivered on the field knowing full well of his problem. 

I am not for one moment suggesting that the alleged ICT player has the same problem.  All I am saying is that if the problem is ignored then it may get much worse before it gets better.

I don't understand how suppressing debate on this issue actually helps.  I think people ought to be outraged.  Because the story is now in the public arena ICT's reputation ispotentially tarnished.

Surely this is an opprotunity for officials at ICT to be a community leader and recognise the problem and assist the player.

Drugs are a community problem and if we recognise that professional footballers can also be attracted to drugs I believe it is ICT's duty to be measured and proactive in its response.

I understand they cannot act until the substance has been identified but if the alleged substance turns out to be an illegal drug then ICT needs to be a community leader.

Most professional football clubs (across all codes Soccer, Rugby League and Rugby Union) have strong anti drug polices (and regularly test for performance enhancing and recreational drugs) except for the AFL and they have paid the price for a very high profile drug problem.

It is very easy to ignore a potentially dangerous issue.

(Or.........IHE has been handing out Stamps inappropriately)

Gabby

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quote Scotty

As far as I am concerned, the following are facts

A player was detained at Rockness.  Not so, a player was interviewed.

That player has been confirmed as Richie Hart. Confirmed by who?

He has not (as far as I am aware) been charged with any offence.It hasn't been ascertained that an offence was committed.

He is innocent until proven guilty. He won't be proved guilty!

anything else is speculation. some of it may be strong speculation but it is speculation nonetheless.

quote Scotty

As far as I am concerned, the following are facts

A player was detained at Rockness.  Not so, a player was interviewed.

That player has been confirmed as Richie Hart. Confirmed by who?

He has not (as far as I am aware) been charged with any offence.It hasn't been ascertained that an offence was committed.

He is innocent until proven guilty. He won't be proved guilty!

anything else is speculation. some of it may be strong speculation but it is speculation nonetheless.

Thank You for proving my point !!! that even the facts (as I see them) are unclear !!!

A player was detained at Rockness.  Not so, a player was interviewed.
According to TeamTalk, Soccer365, Daily Record and the BBC a player was detained. According to the P&J, a player was questioned. Depends on what you class as detained I suppose. detained briefly at the scene and released pending inquiries possibly ?

That player has been confirmed as Richie Hart. Confirmed by who?
His agent, Kevin Drinkell ARTICLE. Today's Courier article also carefully words their coverage .... ARTICLE

He has not (as far as I am aware) been charged with any offence.It hasn't been ascertained that an offence was committed.
True and therefore he has not been charged with any offence (as I said).

He is innocent until proven guilty. He won't be proved guilty!
and will therefore be innocent (as i said).

What is perfectly clear from this whole saga is that nothing is clear and will not be until the player, the club, and the police decide to comment on the actual facts of the 'incident'.

If you speculate........you accumulate. The more you speculate.......the more BS gets spouted. RH is innocent of any wrongdoing. :angel13:

(like you said?)

Being in possession of a substance does not necessarily mean that that substance belongs to you and indeed most definitely does not mean that you use controlled drugs.

This player will be proved innocent.

The facts, as they stand, are that a Ritchie Hart was detained for questioning in relation to allegations of possessing a controlled drug as specified in the schedule attached to the Misuse of Drugs (Scotland) act.

That schedule now lists hundreds of different substances ranging from class A drugs such as herion to class C drugs including cannibas. It is not in the public domain which substance is alleged to have been in his possession and so potentially defamatory to speculate ande no such speculation whether purportedly "informed" or not should be tolerated on this site.

Nor is it true to say that the player has been charged with any 0ffence and he will not be charged until the substance involved has been analysed which, due to the current backlog in the system could take months.

Accordingly, much as it seems to irk some posters, the moderators would be failing in their duty if they didn't delete or amend any posts which , with specific refence to Ritchie Hart, went beyond what is aleady in the public domain.

That should not, however, inhibit free speach on the subject in more general terms.

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