It may be helpful fer peeple to look outside of secretarianism and look at the events of the fans at Millwall on Saturday.

Leeds reacted violently to Millwall fans chanting "Istanbul" at them whilst actioning cutting their throats and stabbing each other. Is that banter, is that harmless wind up or is that out of order or even criminal ?

An extremely distasteful wind-up, the sort of thing Leeds fans have dished out many times.....

This a sweeping generalisation, and I'm sure theres lots of decent folks follow these two, but the fact is that these days I don't expect anything different from the fans of both these clubs.

Bad taste that one,as bad as people singing "Munich" at Man Utd

Saw Millwall versus Hearts in Vancouver two years ago.--pre-season friendly.

Score was 1 - 1 and pretty poor game.

Not surprising though , t'was nearly 100 degrees

The game that lost my wife to sewing..." that's the last game of football you will get me to go to" Smile.

What can I say.