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I don't like these comments. Butcher needs to take some responsibility for our position in the league. The back 4 of Meekings-Tokely-Hogg-Gillet has just played consecutive games together for the first time, so it's hardly surprising that they look a little lost together. Butcher said after the Killie game that he's known his best team since pre-season but hasn't been able to play it because of injuries. This is clearly untrue because Hogg and Davis weren't signed until the season had started. I suspect that Butcher is only beginning to realise what his best team is, and that the amount of chopping and changing he's done in the meantime has a lot to do with the number of goals we've conceded.

Sorry to make this more political BUT the Lib Dems were in power from 1999 to 2007 in a coalition with Labour in the Scottish Executive Government.

Yes I also have some vic I could rub on yer chest.

Average speed cameras worked on the M77 but it was treacherous. Comparison to the trams is way off the mark. They expect the final cost to be around ?1 billion which equates to around ?100 million per mile. The channel tunnel cost ?9 billion for 30 miles and when you consider there are 3 tunnels it comes in about the same cost per mile. There has been some inflation since then but I think it gives a bit of perspective to the shambles the trams have been. They weren't even needed, the bus service in Edinburgh was and is excellent. I don't believe in party politics but I do believe Scotland will thrive as an independent country whoever we get in government.

Why cant we convert the away dressing room into a shop and get the away team to sit in the porta cabin at half time.

Was it not already in place before the North Stand was built? I agree with you that it is unsightly, but it's there and anything we might want to do to it to improve its look or relocate it costs money we dont have so we just have to live with it. We may not have a bank debt, but over the last couple of years we have been operating at a loss so every penny counts and I dont see where pumping money into moving it or tarting it up would actually give us any benefit other than the "look". If we get to the stage where we can (or need to) spend some money on infrastructure, then this should be high up on the list IMHO. You're right Scotty, it was there before the stand was built but why was it not moved then? Unfortunately, money is the reason for everything at ICT - we always don't have enough to do this that or the next thing. If things are so bad that we can't tart up that shed then the business must cut it's cloth. If we can't increase our income we must cut wages and general expenses and that will most probably mean relegation and redundancies and if we can't cope with that then we go bust. OBTW the only reason we don't have any bank debt is that we don't have any assets to borrow against. The lsat time we were in serious stook new people came in to "restructure". Is it not therefore time a similar exercise took place - new money - new people - a new start! Sorry going way off topic so I'll go and put my head down.

munro and duncan are gone time to move on if hogg hasnt replaced munro then we have a reliable young 19 year old in meekings who will im not going to sit and whinge about what butchers done by getting rid of munro because i dont think it matters he done alot for the club but everyones time comes to an end.