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I feel that we need to re-focus on the "clear and obvious". One can argue that you are either on-side or offside and it might be possible to have technology sophisticated enough to determine whether the furthest forward part of one player's anatomy is a millimetre further forward than that of a player the other side of the pitch at the exact moment the ball is no longer in contact with the player making the pass, but we don't have it yet. Whether an incident in the penalty box warrants a penalty cannot simply be established by technology, however sophisticated. So, let the officials on the park make the decisions with VAR having a quick look. If they see something which the shows the on-field decision was clearly and obviously wrong then this should be apparent within 20 - 30 seconds. If the referee is advised that VAR are looking at an incident, then if VAR haven't come up with any evidence to show the on-field decision was clearly and obviously wrong then the referee should confirm the on-field decision within 30 seconds and re-start the game. I hate the delayed offside flags. Let the linesman flag if he thinks someone is offside. If he doesn't flag and VAR intervene when the player is clearly offside, then officials will tend to err on the side of not flagging rather than flagging when a player is actually on-side. Therefore there shouldn't be many occasions when a wrong decision prevents a goal. No system is ever going to be perfect, but we need to end these lengthy VAR delays. If that means that slow motion analysis reveals a few decisions were actually wrong, then so be it. It is in the nature of things that sometimes these decisions will go for you and sometimes against you.

Instead of getting rid of controversial moments it's creating even more of it's own! I always said it should be used like in cricket and tennis where a captain/manager has, say, two challenges per half. If they're proved right they keep their challenge, if they're wrong they lose it. That way we only get delays, etc if a team really does think they've been wronged - and they can point to that specific incident. Refs wouldn't then rely on it as a backup to their lack of descision making and linos would actually have to call an offside if they think it is. Oh, and the full audio of the discussion during a challenge should be played over the PA system in the stadium and put on the big screen where there is one. In cricket this adds to the spectacle rather than taking away from it as VAR currently does.

The whole VAR setup is costing millions and they still can't get it right, a complete waste of money!

Meanwhile, in Scotland, Willie Column agreed with VAR that Hearts should have been awarded a penalty that referee Steven Maclean waived away even after reviewing the footage on the VAR screen. What an absolute joke. That decision could well now cost Hearts the title...

Another huge penalty call tonight which hands Celtic the advantage. I think VAR and then the ref have made an assumption that the ball must have hit the defender’s hand, but the footage shows no real evidence of a clear and obvious error.

Can the officials of this club not use google?

I’d expect that Naysmith will take the best to Ayr.

I hope so. Spurs have to play Chelsea who have lost 5 of their last 6 PL games, three days after the cup final. I can't see anything other than a Spurs win, which means we need to win away at Newcastle and at home to Leeds and then hope Moyes does us a favour and Everton turn them over. At Chrismas I'd resigned myself to relegation (and the bliss of no VAR next season) but the recent hope when we managed to escape the drop zone for a week or so means it'll be tense as you say. Not helped by the realisation that the team finishing 18th for the last 2 seasons has gone straight through the Championship to League 1!

I feel your pain Hammer, strangely at Palace v Everton on Saturday, VAR didn't intervene when an Everton player pushed Strand-Larsen off the ball in the penalty area with two hands without even trying to get the ball...Strand-Larsen was about to shoot. Not sure what the Ref was doing perhaps he was having a 'Scottish' moment, given what appears to be let go up here. But you can bet, if that had happened to a Arsenal, City or Liverpool player the ref's whistle would have gone straight to his mouth Going to be a tense couple of weeks for you now, but Spur's ability to shoot themselves in the foot may save West Ham

I think this incident ought to be a trigger to have a serious review of what is and what is not allowed within the penalty box. What happened was farcical and West Ham were robbed. MOTD pundits and a guest referee thought the decision was correct and whilst acknowledging that there were other fouls being committed, they said they were not impacting on the ball. They focussed on the point when Raya tries to catch the ball at which point Pablo's arm is across Raya's throat and Todibo has hold of Raya's top. They conclude that Raya is being fouled by 2 separate players and therefore the officials were right to rule the goal out. Bullsh*t From before Bowen took the corner kick, both Pablo and Todibo were being being fouled by Trossard and Odegaard, both of whom had hold of their opponents with both hands and who never once looked at the ball. Despite being constantly fouled, both Pablo and Todibo had eyes only for the ball and tried their best to get to it. As the ball came in, Trossard put his arms round Pablo and Gabriel joins in by pulling Pablo's shirt. Pablo tries to jump for the ball, but can't get a proper jump because of the fouling. His arm is forced into an unnatural position and Raya come onto his outstretched arm. Todibo also is stopped from jumping for the ball with Odegaard holding him round the waist with his head preventing Tobido getting his arm into a natural position. Todibo does grab hold of Raya's shirt but only well after Odegaard has started to foul him. Finally, as the ball comes in, Raya is actually impeded by his own player, Gabriel. He pushes Gabriel away before making a half-hearted attempt to get the ball It is therefore absurd to say the fouls committed on these 2 West Ham players were not consequential on the play. Had they not been fouled themselves they would likely have made good challenges for the ball without fouling the keeper. It is absurd that rules which are adhered to elsewhere on the park are not applied in the penalty area. We are in a position when nobody knows what constitutes a foul and what doesn't. As a result we get these farcical situations where the penalty box looks more like an episode of Strictly than a football match. After a corner kick has been taken, if a player is seen to be fouling an opponent, the referee should blow his whistle. Penalty or free kick depending on who is spotted committing an offence first. The rules would be clear and managers would very quickly be telling their players not to grab hold of their opponents.

Coming away from the stenny v ict game a few weeks ago I got talking to an old stenny fan walking back to the car. ( probably a bit younger than me but he looked older 😃. O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us / To see oursels as ithers see us!" He said he hoped ict go up and stenny stay down. Your team is playing well and you have a very good manager I said, why not go up. We are happy watching the team, winning more than losing, enjoying the football. If we go up we will have to find money for the increased wages getting better players in. We have a set number who come to watch home games so where is that money coming from. Very astute I thought.

I just saw the name and have broken out in a nasty rash, high blood pressure and an extreme feeling of nausea and sickness. Hope it settles down later otherwise I'm off to the vets.

Yes well done to all

No complaints from me. Despite some being concerned about Remi Savage, I thought he has had an outstanding season. Well done to all winners.

I thought the handball shout was more of a penalty that the "trip" at the end. His arm definitely went up towards the ball, but the other one looked more like an accidental coming together to me. I can see why Hearts would want it, but I don't think theres enough in it to give a penalty for me. Hopefully the draw doesn't cost Hearts the title. Celtic could easily drop a couple of points at Motherwell tonight which would make the match at the weekend a formality if Hearts can beat Falkirk. Otherwise it's a winner take all.

If we want a police presence in the ground we have to pay for it . I think that is true for outside the ground too. I have previously been told that if we want police at the roundabout to ensure fans can cross the dual carriageway safely, we would have to pay for it.