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Diggars is great craic, but get in early if you are taking kids as they are only allowed in the snug area at the back and it gets pretty mobbed. :021: :021:

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Sad but very true TM4TJ. It was ridiculous and whilst I can see the funny side, I was absolutely raging at the time. Buffy and Groovy Dave are well known to many of us and Buffy has been a regular in the Innes during recent Dunfermline games. If fact she enjoyed hospitality in a box (courtesy of Weestie), in her pars colours, the last time we played Dunfermline. The one part of the discussion Buffy has omitted is that the lady from the car park, who told us it was nothing to do with her, continually insisted that Groovy Dave had 'pushed' the steward. The pushing she referred to, we confirmed was verbal and not physical, although she continued to tell the supervisor that he had indeed pushed the steward. GD had no colours on show, other that a black and white scarf and Buffy was wearing a blue sweatshirt with a Dunfermline badge on it. It was a very embarassing exchange over nothing. These guys were celebrating Buffy's birthday as well as their recent engagement and I think that we should be pleased that they chose our game this weekend for their celebrations. The steward 'on the door' was unlicensed and was unhappy when challenged (Pushed!!!). The other supervisor (who wasn't in charge of that area) shook her head in disbelief as she handed over to the appropriate supervisor. I was angry and very embarassed at this ridiculous exchange.

Only gossip, no definite source but I heard he took a wee strop for some reason at half time and left the building. :33:

Saw a pic of the new arrival today and she's gorgeous. :003: :003:

Well done Glasgow. :021: :021: :021:

Tug - Garry Wood and Zander out on loan, so that would leave 10 available.

P&J today runs with the Rankin Story and Brew says he still features in his plans but he'll just have to bide his time. The under 21 rule is part of the problem, along with the fact that he has 10 midfielders to chose from.

Tincanfan - Please be careful, Richie is not a convicted drug user, just pled guilty to posessing not using.

John Rankin wasn't getting a game before Brew came. As IHE says - I am reliably informed that there is no fall out between Brew and JR, just that he doesn't fit in with Brews team selection at the moment.

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I agree RIG but it seems to be heading down that road. Okay to get back on topic - IHE - I don't know what, what is the difference? :003:

Why are we even considering a replacement for Brew. I don't think he's going anywhere in the near future.

Just shows we are all human after all. :001:

:rotflmao: No need IHE, I have been in touch with the Chief Exec today and he assures me that the club are very aware of the requirements and that they are working closely with Rock Steady to ensure compliance for Saturday.

Is there any special reason that this is stickied?

:blob05: Congratulations. Glad to hear Mum and baby are well. Can we have the head wetting in the Innes on Saturday as for once I won't have the car. :001:

There is an exemption in place in England, but as far as I am aware there is no exemption in place in Scotland. As I say we are buying a very experienced company to provide our security and I would be very surprised, as well as disappointed if they don't comply as necessary. I'm just adding bits to show the gray areas, but I would expect that Rock Steady will either have trained staff or clarification on the exemption. They work at much bigger stadiums than ours.

From the same publication 3.5 Non-licensable activities In determining whether an individual is licensable, consideration should be given to the full range of activities that an individual performs. Although other activities may make an individual licensable, it is likely that the following types of activities in isolation will not: ? Customer care duties including directing patrons to refreshments, toilet and first aid facilities ? Directing spectators to seating areas by checking tickets ? Providing safety advice and assistance to patrons as required Monitoring the crowd in accordance with health and safety for signs of distress caused by overcrowding and taking action in accordance with standing instructions ? Ensuring gangways and exit/evacuation routes are kept clear for health & safety purposes ? Providing assistance in the carrying out of evacuation procedures in the event of danger to patrons, including liaising with representatives of the emergency services ? To be responsible for the health and safety and comfort of spectators within a designated area ? Monitoring and maintaining the pedestrian flow at key locations e.g. entry and exit points. ? Providing guidance and direction to visitors arriving by car or on foot, including the management of roadway crossings to ensure the safe passage of visitors over the roads ? Report to a supervisor or safety officer any damage or defect which is likely to pose a threat to spectator ?health and safety? e.g. a damaged seat or barrier This list is by no means exhaustive and it should be remembered that it is not the job title that is important; it is the work that an operative actually does (the activity undertaken) that determines whether they need a licence.

From the SIA - Security at Events booklet The following lists some examples of the types of guarding roles which are likely to require an SIA licence, but only if they are undertaken in relation to one or more of the manned guarding activities defined above Screening a person?s suitability to enter the event or venue e.g. individuals under the influence of alcohol or drugs or demonstrating anti social behaviour. Searching of persons and/or property to prevent items that are unauthorised or illegal from entering the premises e.g. alcohol, drugs or weapons. Responding to incidents within crowds, queues or the audience to control behaviour which is antisocial, undesirable or likely to result in harm to others. Ejecting individuals from a venue or event or designated area e.g. concert pit or backstage areas. Protecting a pitch, track or other identifiable area from spectators or others with the intention of preventing damage to property or persons. Providing a security presence to prevent and detect crime within a designated area. Guarding property and/or equipment in situ during the setup and breaking down of, for example, an event or exhibition. Patrolling the perimeter of an event to prevent unauthorised entry being gained by individuals, through the climbing or breaching of any fences or barriers, or through being let in via an access point

I do share your concerns, but my only conselation is that Rock Steady are a huge company with vast experience in event security. They manage the security for a number of Football Clubs, so I would think that they have this covered. (Or at least I hope they have)

I think we come under event security More information here And here also

I can't cut and past the bit I want, but the sia website has copies of all the documents. It is my understanding that there is an exemption for English football but as you say this doesn't exist in Scotland. As far as I can establish there are things they can do without licence like, show you to your seat and keep the isles clear, but if there are issues with ejections etc then they would have to be licenced. They will have to display their licence for all to see. It is also necessary for the person who employs the said stewards to have a licence. I do believe that Rock Steady are not going down the route of licencing and they are a big company, so you would have to assume they know what they are doing, so there may be more loopholes. I do know for a fact though that ACE have trained and licenced all of their staff which I think is really good practice. John Sutherland is also licenced so when he was Match Day Safety Officer we would have been within the new regulations, but now I'm not so sure.

Our under 19's are playing Dundee on Sunday at the Stadium. Entry is free, so why not pop along and support the boys. Information Here

He also said they might lose their youth academy which is next to their ground. :008: That'll be the HIGHLAND Football Academy!!! Sorry for shouting, but that really annoys me. Wouldn't really want them to go part time though.