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AJG parcels perchance ? If so, you should do OK, Adrian is a big ICT fan

Spectre has a point about post safety .... and that has got to be down to motivation .... what was said to the players in 05/06 that was different to every other season ? or did the idea of a bigger bonus for finishing higher mean more to them then than in subsequent seasons ? Motivation is part of the manager's job .... we should also expect a modicum of it to come naturally from professional players so there is a sharing of blame if the motivation is not there. I want to see an ICT where the players are motivated for every game, even the "small" ones, and where they at least try to be consistent in those games. Of course we are going to lose games, and have off days, but if we look like we are trying, and the players seem motivated, then it is a far easier pill to swallow. If we can get those two things going, the manager and players would also get a little more leeway for the odd bad performance.

For me it is all about consistency ...... I wholeheartedly accept that I am not watching the games in person and that listening on Internet radio, or snatching a small windowed video feed when possible (for OF games), does not give you the same perspective as someone who was at the game but you dont need to be at the game to know we are terribly inconsistent. We have not won two back-to-back league games since April We have only won once in six attempts at home this season (last year W9, D2, L8) We have won three times away from home this season so far (last year W4, D2, L13). Considering we only won 4 times away from home last season, maybe this will turn out better !!! Our form from the start of season is W-L-D-W-L-L-W-L-L-L-L-W (home games in red) so the only streaks we have had so far are losing ones. Our form last season contained 6 "streaks" from the opening 6 game losing streak (4 of which were with CC or DP at the helm, to a streak of 5 wins mid-season and then that worrying streak of 7 straight defeats from 20th Feb through to 5th April. L-L-L-L-//-L-L-W-W-D-L-W-L-L-W-W-W-W-W-L-W-L-W-L-D-D-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-W-W-L-W-L-D You can call me anti-Brewster if you want, but the simple truth is that I am still in the undecided camp although I am leaning more heavily towards the "anti" crew. I have chopped and changed my perspective on Brewster ever since he was appointed for the second time ... its part of the deal when you are "undecided" !!! Some weeks I feel he IS the man for the job, other weeks I couldnt see him far enough ..... The Rangers game was another of these "swingometer" games and I have to admit that apart from basing my comments on my own perspective from watching that game on a crappy video feed, I was also swayed by the comments of those who were at the game such as the eternal optimist of all things ICT (Alex) who quite literally stated that the team did not appear to be trying. If it had been one of our more negative posters, that comment would not have resonated with me so much, but for Alex to say it, I know things must have gone badly awry for him to make that statement. Saturday's result may have pushed me back more towards the centre of the undecided camp as it was a pleasure to listen to the game, and to see the comments from posters who were at it. Was it luck? Did the manager get it right? were the players embarrassed by their capitulation the previous week? who knows .... For me, once again the question will come down to consistency .... We have two winnable games coming up and if Brewster can motivate the players, set tactics that will work, pick the best starting 11, and hopefully achieve a result, then maybe he can start convincing us. Hell, we dont even have to win all our games, for many of them, I would be happy that we gave 100% and that even if we lost, we knew we had tried our best (like the recent Celtic defeat). However, I cannot and will not accept the way we just laid down for Rangers. ICT dont do that.

Pretty sure that up until yesterday, we had not scored in 4 consecutive games at ER. Yup, Hibs have never beaten us up here, and have only ever scored 1 competitive goal. At Home we are good v Hibs normally. We have had some victories at ER but we tend to be defeated there. Last season we were beaten in the League and Cup there. http://stats.caleythistleonline.com/opponent.php?opp=5

If I ended up back in Sneck, I would probably make the pilgrimage every so often to see friends, and if it coincided with a game so be it ..... As for TFC V ICT, then it would be ICT all the way.

Would never want it to happen, and would fight tooth and nail to prevent it, even from over here, but I guess the answer to the question is easier for me if all the efforts ended up in vain ..... Toronto FC !!!

That came through quiet and clear on the radio today. well done to both sets of supporters. unlike elsewhere where a minute's applause had to be observed to drown out those who would disrupt it.

ok, we are in danger of going off on several personal tangents here .... lets just get back on topic folks. If anyone wants to keep getting personal, take it to the PM system.

That's a low blow. But to answer your question, 2 x 7500 mile round trips to watch 2 games 'recently', both of which were home victories and played with some style. As I mentioned above, I saw two games recently and at the end of the first one, I switched my stance from very anti-Brew to ambivalent. I was anti-Brew because of his results at DUFC nothing else, and my reason for mellowing that day was because I saw a Brew who was coaxing, cajoling and praising some of the younger or more inexperienced players to do well. At that point i Thought "maybe, just maybe, he has it". At the end of the second one, amidst all the personal rumours flying around, I reinforced that belief because I still saw that attitude and heard a number of "alternative" viewpoints to those expressed by some. Like CaleyD and others, I DO actually want him to do well because bottom line that means ICT are doing well and that is far more important than whose name is on the parking spot. We as a site are trying to get behind the club, certainly off the field, and if the manager can get CONSISTENT performances out of the players every week (win or lose, but always 100% effort) then I will get behind him too. If he can do that, then he will do for me, but if he can't and we continue to huff and puff each week and we have to wonder which ICT will turn up, then maybe he is not TM4TJ so to speak. We had a good result today, it is certainly deserving of praise, but I would say that the next seven days will tell us even more. We have an excellent chance to try and build some consistency with a couple of emininently winnable games coming up. I would say we have to beat Falkirk at home in midweek and if we can take something from Hearts with a spirited performance (even if all we take is the performance, and not the points) then maybe the Rangers result will be consigned to the bad memory bank and we can move forward.

There is no problem in congratulating Craig Brewster and the players for an excellent result which seems to have been deserved based on performance rather than the elusive "rub of the green" that was being trotted out last week. WELL DONE TO ALL CONCERNED !!! However, by the same token, one good result does not wipe away the bad taste of some of our indifferent and lets be honest, downright terrible, performances this season (not just last week's debacle). Some people seem to think that a single good result means everything is OK. It is not. We need to be up for EVERY game. If the team start performing like they did today and do it CONSISTENTLY then maybe a corner has been turned, but not yet.

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A bit of pot/kettle there Ralph !!!! You didnt like the reaction of those fans calling for Brewster's head after last week's debacle yet feel quite happy rubbing their noses in it after a result that many of the same people have acknowledged as far better. Bottom line, last week was a farce, this week was good .... most of us just wish there was some consistency somewhere in-between those two extremes. Until that happens, CB will struggle to win many of us over (or back in the case of some who backed him until last week).

I will give credit where it is due, listening to Robbo's effervescent commentary on the radio made it sound like a good performance today and I would single out Vigurs and Esson from a list of positives. However, as one person mentioned in the chatroom, "one swallow does not make a summer" and it will take much more than that to make me think we have turned the corner .... some consistency ion the next couple of games would be a start.

Credit where credit is due, the team performed far better than last week. To perform worse however would have been difficult. Special mentions to Esson for saving the penalty and Vigurs for a solid game. The rest were pretty decent too !!!

a few of us in the chatroom now - why notcome and join us

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so do I

LOL - no thanks, its far easier to be one of the armchair variety

It is, and they can, all we are asking is for them to do it with a bit of civility towards each other and in a manner that is not overly crude.

You are bang on. When we played Celtic we lost. No-one called for anyone's head, no-one asked which players should be out the door in January, and why was that? It was because the team gave 100%, battled through the game and lost to the (arguably) better side on the day. On another day we might have won, or snuck a draw, but it didnt happen. Last week we basically laid down for Rangers and allowed them to do whatever they wanted. There was none of the heart, spirit or passion from the Celtic game and no apologies, just excuses. If we played every game like the Celtic game, we would be a lot higher up the table and win or lose we would be able to write screeds of positivity about our team ........

I would have had a lot more respect if someone had just come out and said something like this ..... "We were terrible, we got it wrong, and all of us - players and management alike - have to take some of the blame. Moving forward, we want to put this game behind us, learn from our mistakes and try to make sure it never happens again. The only saving grace - if there is one - is that this performance was against one of the OF and realistically, although we have snatched results from them before, we never "expect" points from these fixtures".

I remember when I was first introduced to Robbo and Donald Park at the stadium as "the Internet Guy" .... Robbo ripped the **** right out of him about being the computer geek in their relationship and then went on to mention how absolutely everything he does in training or in games is analysed on computer and looked at from many different angles to point out strengths, weaknesses etc. He is definitely a valuable coach, the players also seem to like him, but the big question is whether he actually wants to be a manager or not or whether he is happier in the lower profile role as a #2 or backroom guy. I believe we have offered him the top job twice and he has turned it down both times ...... or was that just spin?

Seems the reporter is saying one thing, but the actual quotes from Brewster say something else ..... journalistic license at its most blatant ..... or maybe reporter making conclusions about off the record comments perhaps? Esson Tokely Duff Munro McBain Cowie Black Duncan Vigurs Imrie Rooney Subs: Fraser, Djebi-Zadi, Hastings, Wilson, Zander, Wood, Barrowman

After last week's performance, no-one's position is guaranteed and some players perhaps need the proverbial kick in the chuckies to make them waken up. MF may be one of them.

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