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A positive thread for once Wishing the team of Scott Kellacher & Billy Mckay a winning start to their Head coach / Assistant roles. Going to be tough ask to make up ground, but we have to get behind them and support like we have never supported before! Its not impossible.
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NAPs 2024/25 - Week 11 - Saturday 26th October
Scotty replied to MrCaleyjag's topic in Betting Forum
Scotty: Alloa @ 1.91 CDN Girl : Montrose @ 2.05 SOS: Buckie @ 2.00 -
Scotty HT: 0-0 FT: 1-2 1st Scorer ICT: Mckay 1st Scorer Opp: Pignatiello Crowd: 715 CDN Girl HT: 0-1 FT: 0-1 1st Scorer ICT: Devine 1st Scorer Opp: Shiels Crowd: 695 SOS HT: 1-0 FT: 1-1 1st Scorer ICT: Mackinnon 1st Scorer Opp: Ruth Crowd: 701
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"Against All Odds - The decline and resurrection of ICT in a phygital universe" , nahh, maybe a bit too short and snappy a title ... Makwanageddon it is then
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I really miss IHE. You know right about now that he would have the panto written and in true IHE style it would be very near the knuckle but written in such a manner that none of it would be actionable ... and even if any of it was, he wouldn't give a toss!
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May not be Povlson then .... https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/richest-person-in-scotland-credited-with-interest-in-buying-spfl-club-4836051
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Great to hear this part. and once again, many thanks to AS who seems to be doing all he can in this moment. Speculated on another post that the 3 bids might be AS + others as #1 (so obviously wrong there) but it would not surprise me if bids 2 & 3 were Ketan Makwana as one of them, and the consortium of 6 businessmen fronted by Don Lawson and David Anderson and rumoured to also include Morrison, Cameron and Munro according to the daily record last week. Heres hoping the 3rd bid may instead be Povlson - we can dream
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I hope so too and thanks for the kind words. Said yesterday we need that siege mentality and a bit of a chip on our shoulder as our motivation or edge to go out and just what Dundee did. We need to back Scott Kellacher and Billy Mckay to the hilt as they try to do this. What an introduction to football management for both of them - Scott with his first appointment as #1 and Billy as #2. Lets take each game one at a time, score some goals and get some wins !! None of this complicated ****, just play football at its most basic and simple level. Indeed. I know a Hearts fan over here who I go to games with and his exact words to me at the time were "what the living f*** are you guys doing. don't let that **** anywhere near your club". Most fans I know have the same opinion that Ross Tokely mentioned in the press today, and when a club legend with almost 600 appearances over all divisions speaks up like that, then we should listen. Its a shame however that the board spent all that time not listening. So which is it from our former chairman ... is our former CEO "the best he could find" as he said in another interview, or is he this vilified and victimised pillar of the community who is at heart a much maligned and misunderstood individual? Is SG writing his press releases or interview answers for him?
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Nope. just the standard rule that's been in place for a few years now. Its a bit like kicking a man while he is down, but not aimed at ICT specifically. Alan Savage + others? Ketan Makwana + phygital friends? David Anderson / Don Lawson fronted bid? - from the Daily Record last week, this consortium of 6 businessmen was also reputed to involve Morrison/Munro/Cameron. Its all rank speculation on my part, but hopefully, being in the hands of professional administrators means that the decision on who can bid or be taken seriously is based on merit rather than bullshit.
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let's keep the personal jabs out of this thread please. it's going to get pretty emotional, and tempers may flare as things unfold but please debate the topic NOT the poster. We will apply topic bans if people keep taking it off the rails to drop in petty personal jibes.
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by funding, does he mean more loans so we would be £5m or £6m in debt when it was called in instead of £3m or £4m? Also no changes at boardroom level or in the CEO's office so still no governance. Administration is going to be hard, painful and horrible, but pouring money into a leaky bucket still leaves it empty.
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exactly. Thats the ones I will feel the most pain for.
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Not Dunc bashing, and if you read other things I have said, I don't lay blame at his door for the mess we find ourselves in financially. However, let's not canonise him just yet. He may well have been good at PR with fans, and to be fair he does have a history of showing that positive side of his character at both Everton and everywhere else he went as a coach or manager, but lets balance that very good quality of his with the fact that he uttered not one word after relegation until a bunch of players had already found out they were out the door with not a word from their line manager or - it has to be said - the CEO or any directors. Thats the other side of the same coin. I wish him well in his future career, I thank him for the positive stuff he did (or tried to do) at the club, and for more recently taking wage cuts or working for free to try and help in some way. It is appreciated. I am sorry he was the first out the door, but he is likely to be one of the best placed to find another job, working PR for Everton perhaps, or back there in some coaching capacity rather than as a full-blown manager.
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I guess we will find out! Good luck Scott.
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Dunc the man seems ok (at times). dunc the manager not so much and if he was so concerned with others I still cant get that aligned with his silence over the summer when players were treated like dirt.
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Dont know Scott personally although I did work with his brother for many years. Always got told he was 'highly regarded' and started his playing career at Celtic Boys club.
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Ferguson said he and two coaches had been let go by the club. Other players and staff are expected to hear if they still have jobs on Thursday. Got to figure that is him, Bollan and Kellacher?
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Yup - there are a thousand scenarios that would all sound plausible, and we will just have to wait and see. In the end, it's a number centric situation for the administrators rather than people focused so there will be cuts we all find unpalatable, sad and anger causing. While I personally may wish the administrator didn't do whatever it is we complain about in days to come, I know whose doors I am putting that blame in front of, and it is not those who have tried to sort out this mess (eg. Savage, Christie, Young), the staff, or the players and manager but squarely at current and former directors, CEOs and others who were tasked with good governance (and oversight) of our club. Is it 'our' club now? or should we now be saying 'the' club.
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agreed. I think that is the model Charlie is talking about, but how we get there is a different question that no-one has addressed yet. If we can retain the bulk of the current squad because the administrator thinks they can keep us in League One and that will be best for creditors and potential investors, that would be a start. I guess we will find out as it unfolds over the next few days and weeks.
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sorry 'bout that. To be honest, the first movie was a bit of a guilty pleasure for me, but didnt want to sound so North American in the forum ... already get accused of that too much . The sequels were truly terrible though. Not shown on TV here now though as the name of the club is considered culturally insensitive now and has changed to Cleveland Guardians. I think they will be trying to go for the model Charlie has mentioned a few times.... 8-8-8. Not sure what that will mean in terms of our current squad but it seems to be 8 pros, 8 academy players and 8 local based players from HL or lower leagues. As for management, I could see the scenario you describe being a potential. If they can have someone "multi-task" then they are of more value to the administrator than someone who is only employed to do one thing. I feel for the staff and players right now. Our football club is paying the price for so much mismanagement over the last 7 years (in my estimation), 5 of which were overseen by our former CEO and 2 by the CEO before him. While we all hurt and complain and moan, our mortgages and other bills are likely still taken care of. However, there are folks down there right now, players and staff, many of whom we have all known for years or that we know do a power of work, who don't know how they will make ends meet if they are let go. We should not make light of any of this, nor should those Muppets who got us into this situation in the first place. Hang your heads in f****** shame each and every one of you who oversaw this decline. Hope you can look in the mirror each morning. I am sure you will because most of you have no conscience, guilt or acceptance of any liability in this whole affair.
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Yeah, press release came out this morning. short and sweet: James Stephen from BDO will host a press conference tomorrow at 12pm in the Boardroom at the Caledonian Stadium
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At the end of the day, we would currently be 12 points adrift at the bottom. Thats only 4 games! especially if we can do better than the bottom team, aim here first, then aim for the team above that. It was a crap film, but there was a baseball movie called 'major league' and that kind of situation formed part of the storyline as the 'shitty' team setup to lose the league started concentrating on every game and eventually coming through. We need that kind of siege mentality, or chip on our shoulder as motivation back at ICT to finish this season still in League One, then build on that for next year.
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Yup, its official. just got the press release also: Club Statement James Stephen, Malcolm Cohen and Shane Crooks at BDO have been appointed Joint Administrators of Inverness Caledonian Thistle Football Club (Tuesday 22nd October 2024). A spokesperson at BDO said: “We can confirm a formal appointment has been made and Inverness Caledonian Thistle is now in administration. We understand this will be a difficult and uncertain time for the club, its staff, its loyal fan base and the local community. The Administrators will be in a position to provide further information and their plan to seek to secure the long term future of the Club in due course.”