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yip very simple but if you have 12 managers and 12 teams and 12 sets of fans and 12 boards all expecting the same thing then unfortunately there is going to be some that can't deliver so you need to put it in perspective by taking into account money spent, age of squad, players already in squad, how good is the support etc. etc. so it is not really that simple Brew is strugglling at the moment and so is the club, we are facing our first real threat of relegation and everyone has hit the panic button... Right very simply I will tell you what I expect in a manager One that motivates his players and has their respect One that doesnt drive experienced players out the door before he has good enough replacements One that doesnt tell one of our best players such as Rankin he can go, only then when its to late he decides he can play and puts in the team and then we lose him One that plays players in their correct postions One that when things go wrong can take his share of the blame rather than blame everybody else One that has at least some idea what his best team and tactics are

To be honest I am struggling to think of one that has had such a bad record at 2 consecutive clubs, I am sure there are but I cant think of one

Paul Le Guen while didnt have a good time at Rangers was a success at all the other clubs he has been at, worse than brewster not in a million years

Reminds me of the logo of a local company cant quite place it though :thumb04: :018:

While I do think the press should be a bit more free in printing what is happening I do understand why they are reluctant do so, if they lose their stories they get from ICT there is not much else for them to report on In that case the press should grow a pair, they have the ability to influence public oppinion and that makes them more powerful than the ICT board. Yes I agree with that and I wasnt saying they were right just that I could understand why they might be wary to do it, perhaps the most powerful of the lot the BBC might come out and report on the displeasure of the fans Too far North for the BBC to care mate, sorry. I thought it was a BBC interview that reported that contary to public belief Black had been offered a contract at the start of the season

While I do think the press should be a bit more free in printing what is happening I do understand why they are reluctant do so, if they lose their stories they get from ICT there is not much else for them to report on In that case the press should grow a pair, they have the ability to influence public oppinion and that makes them more powerful than the ICT board. Yes I agree with that and I wasnt saying they were right just that I could understand why they might be wary to do it, perhaps the most powerful of the lot the BBC might come out and report on the displeasure of the fans

Sorry I just dont buy that, he is paid a healthy salary to manage the players and if he is not capable of doing that he should not be there.

While I do think the press should be a bit more free in printing what is happening I do understand why they are reluctant do so, if they lose their stories they get from ICT there is not much else for them to report on

Like you said been repeated over and over, you are entitled to your opinion just as I am entilted mine, guess we will just have to agree to disagree

Only thing I would bet on, he will not be blaming himself

Exactly All this has been required since the last few games of last season. Do you not think enough time has past that the chances of kicks up the erse are gone and there has been no improvement. I will admit that I am of the anti-Brewster camp and would never give him a chance. I believe if he succeeded he would leave us at the first opportunity and we'd be back at square one. That was one option when he was appointed the more likely was that he would fail and be sacked, I was not ready to give him a chance others were, admirably after his actions when he left and was at DUFC, and those others now see how bad a manager he really is. Birddog I dont think there is a manager in the business that if he is a success would not leave to go onto bigger things, it happens all the time in football, there is hardly a manager in the game that hasnt moved onto better things if he has been a success

As I've already said, the arguments have been posted on other threads. At least 90% of the insults on this site are directed at Brewster. I've not seen any balance from the anti-Brewster crew: "never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong" Come on spectre I doubt there are many on this site that didnt want Brewster to do well, regardless as to whether they had reservations at the time of his appointment or not. After all although we may all have different opinions we do all have one thing in common our wish to see ICT perform to the best of their abilities. What balance are you looking for so far he has been a spectacular failure as a manager, same as he was a Dundee United. I would not direct any insults at him although I do think he should not go about blaming everyone else for the current failures apart from himself. And I do think he should do the right thing and resign.

The sad thing is you really think it would be a result if you had received a email from the club while those that dared to critisise did not, so the club in your eyes should only respond to emails praising them and ignore those with any form of critisism

Do you think we are as daft as your posts

Oh well if that was the case you cant blame Brew for making such an astute move :thumb04: :018:

When it comes to Brewster - what is the difference ? Bayne went cos he was told he wasnt wanted - FACT. Thank you for clearing that up for me IHE. I'd, wrongly, been under the impression that Bayne wanted to return to the central belt for family reasons. And that s why Brew went to Tannadice - and Rankin - and Dargo - and Wyness - and Dods you forgot about Donald Park :thumb04:

When it comes to Brewster - what is the difference ? Bayne went cos he was told he wasnt wanted - FACT. Thank you for clearing that up for me IHE. I'd, wrongly, been under the impression that Bayne wanted to return to the central belt for family reasons. Family reasons, that old chesnut

Just wait Feb2000 will prob post on this one in January :thumb04:

Think most of us have already cracked :

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It might also be said that they have one collective view of someone not even on the board

Kingsmills perhaps I worded that incorrectly, what I was getting at was it would be nice in one of the board came out and said what the thoughts are on the current position the silence from the boardroom has been deafening

Yup - was given a similar piece of advice .... always thought the first step to recovering or learning from your mistakes is to acknowledge you made one in the first place ! If you cant admit to mistakes, then there is no way you can learn from them. Exactly, and maybe just maybe if he came out and said I screwed up there but I know that and will do everything in my power to make sure the same mistakes dont happen again people might just have a bit more of patience with him. The worrying thing is he seems to think he is doing a decent job but everyone about him is screwing it up

Alex I think if people are going to realise that there are things wrong they dont need to look much further than your history of posts over the last couple of months, you were very supportive of Brewster, took some stick for it but stuck to your guns and thought he deserved time. As you said above you have realised that the time has ran out. All those that think this is all an anti brew or lynch mob mentality should realise that even some of those who gave Brew their full support are realising that enough is enough

It would be nice to hear something from one of those six what their thoughts on our current situation are.