Renegade

I'm not saying he's no good because I'm better at Football Manager! I'm saying I don't rate him because I don't think he's a very good manager - and facts back me up on that. Even here, the way some people go on, you'd think he was Sir Alex Ferguson, but in truth he's not much better than Brewster would be if he was still here. He's a manager who's only gotten jobs due to his name, not his ability. If he wasn't such a big name, would he be ICT manager? No chance. If he didn't talk such a good name, would he be ICT manager? No chance, but feel that these two reasons distort some people's view. And all in all though, the main thing I dislike about Butcher, was that he essentially relegated this club. When he dropped Esson for Fraser for no other reason than his own ego, that was putting himself ahead of the team. And that IMO is unforgivable.

Or in your case, use it as another excuse for some Butcher-Bashing. Where's the clutching at straws smiley? And anyway, saying anything other than Butcher is the greatest thing to happen to world ever, seem to be a crime on here these days. Or is that just when it comes to me?

It almost certainly will be, but the aim of the thread is to put up what you would do, not what you think Butcher will do.

According to yesterday's programme, Golabek and Munro both have suspensions coming up. Will any of these two be out for the next game?

I'd put my house on the likelihood that it'll almost certainly be the same thing/line up again.

I've already had my jab.

I won't be at all surprised to see the mighty tactical king that is Mr Butcher, play the same team for this game again. I fully expect to see Tokely stay at centre-half, Odhiambo down the middle and Ross staying in on the left. After all, it worked in the last game!

True, but the best managers were the ones who put out on a show for their supporters. The Shankly's, the Ferguson's, the Busby's did that, even Paterson did that. The put out a team for the fans, and why? Because teams aren't successful without a good support and the more you put in, what you get out. We need more people with this mindset in football, because a team that don't entertain supporters have little to no future.

I doubt I'd want to see Nick Ross played on the left again. I bet Butcher does though!

For me, a wins an added bonus. Putting the league hopes aside for a minute, on the whole, when I watch football I want to be entertained. I want to see a team go out and play with courage and dignity, not shutting up shop and hoping for the best. In football terms, I don't ask for winning football, I ask for entertaining football.

If anyone on here really cares about ICT as much as they say they do, then it's time with these Scottish Cup games to put aside the silly petty rivalry stuff and hope County get through. Simple, the more games they play the more they'll be tired and chances are the more injuries they pick. For now, County's progression in the cup could be the catalyst that ends their league title hopes.

He never does. Quite ironic really.

If that was the case then you'd put the left footed guy on the left, and played the right footed, inexperienced rookie in a more comfortable position.

I said they should of done that months ago!

Incorrect, what the poster is saying is playing Djebi-Zadi where Odhiambo was today ie - down the middle, not on the wing.

Aye

I made a comment at the game and I stand by it still, that had Morton been able to create chances, then they'd be quite a good team. Some nice passing at times, unlike ICT's pump it up the park nonsense.

The way I see it with Odhiambo, he's what I would call a "space player". He needs space to run into and attack at. There's no denying that he's quick and needs to be played in such a manner to exploit this feature. Today he was in the melee in the centre of the park and because he isn't particularly big or hefty, he just gets banged around and pushed off the ball. This is not the manner in which he should be played.

Yeah, had it been a more natural left winger that been playing on the left, like Foran or Eagle for example, then putting Hayes there I could understand, but Ross is a right winger, very much a right winger.

Mmmm, how did I know when I saw you'd posted, I just knew your post would be something about my line up? But seriously, I can see your point about Odhiambo, but I thought he was poor today, very poor.

I noticed today that once again this season, Butcher (like Brewster used to do) has not played the wingers on their natural sides. Today we saw Hayes on the right and Ross on the left, despite the fact that, yes you guessed it, Hayes is left footed while Nick Ross is right footed - and Hayes is very left footed might add. It didn't take until about 70 or so minutes for the team to cotton on that his ain't a good idea. Surely it would be better to put the wingers on their natural sides, after all you wouldn't play Tokely at left back and Golly at right back now would you? Discuss.

For me (and remember Foran is out suspended) - Esson Tokely Bulvitis Munro Golabek Hayes Duncan Cox McBain Sanchez Rooney Subs - Allison, Proctor, Odhiambo, Djebi-Zadi, Ross

Even though he does come in and out of games, the team today didn't look have as good without him.

I agree with the OP, I thought he was rather bad today.