Renegade

Mine is at 0% and it's never gone above that. What's yours?

I get the whole thing with the Work Permits but ICT and Hibs beforehand signed Thierry Gathuessi, who had only played for Cameroon once. Also Gretna signed Uruguayan Fabian Yantorno, who to date has never turned out for the Uruguayan side. How is it some players get in, and others don't?

I'd go with: ----------------------------------------Esson--------------------------------------------------- ---Tokely------------Bulvitis--------------------------Munro-------------Golabek----------- -------------Cox----------------------McBain--------------------Hayes----------------------- ------------Foran-------------------Barrowman-----------------Rooney---------------------- My advice when it comes to Lionel at left wing and leaving out Eagle. BTW - Has it occured to anyone yet that Lionel might have been left back with Golabek at left midfield as he often used to play in ICT's first couple of seaons in the SPL?

1. Stratford apparently had a shocker against Airdrie. 2. Bulvitis gives away a penalty vs Airdrie and tonight scores an OG. 3. Eagle also apparently has a poor game vs Airdrie. 4. I've been calling for Lionel to be at left wing for ages, tonight against Motherwell, low and behold he appears.....at left wing! Spooky stuff....or do I just have a knack for management?

What are the chances?

Oh well, it sounded like a good try. Sounds like Butcher's taking my advice...about time too!

HT - Motherwell 2-0 ICT FT - Motherwell 3-1 ICT Motherwell 1st scorer - Sutton ICT 1st scorer - Rooney Attendance - 2,372

Even though some folk have put their teams for tonight up on the Partick thread, I'll start one for tonights game. If the Mods want to move some of the posts over from the other thread, then please do so. I'd go with: ----------------------------------------Esson--------------------------------------------------- ---Tokely------------Bulvitis--------------------------Munro-------------Golabek----------- -------------Cox----------------------McBain--------------------Hayes----------------------- ------------Foran-------------------Barrowman-----------------Rooney---------------------- Subs - Proctor, Djebi-Zadi, Sanchez, Duncan, Eagle I'd go with an attacking 4-3-3 for tonight. Bulvitis moves back in as I'd want to play 4 across the back to counter-act the attacking style of Motherwell. Eagle and Stratford are dropped, with McBain coming back in to the middle. I did consider Duncan but I reckon McBain is the slightly better of the two. Tokely should make his usual runs forward with Cox pinging the ball wide to him, and Hayes should make long runs down the left as he usually does. Golabek should also try to get forward at times as well. I'd go with three strikers in Foran, Barrowman and Rooney. From what I've seen Foran has the right idea but needs some one to feed off. He'd get this from Barrowman and Rooney, with this also be an opportunity for these two to prove themselves.

From what I've seen, bar Cox and Hayes, most of Butcher's signings have been pretty poor. You truly are ignorant. Care to explain how I am "ignorant"? I take it though, one of the reasons is that I refuse to believe that Butcher's isn't some God-like figure that you think he is.

Highlights I know it's a bit late but I see the Partick v ICT highlights are now up on youtube.

Is it just me or are half of your posts just digs at me? Please point to where I said I wanted Butcher sacked. I haven't called for him to be sacked, I just feel he wasn't the right man for the job in the first place. No point sacking him. It would be far too costly and I reckon he'll be gone at the end of the season anyway.

Oh aye that's right. If Butcher was the man for the job, he'd have gone into the final game of the season, the relegation decider and most important game in ICT history, playing an experienced and accomplished goalkeeper. Did he do that? No. He went, due to his own ego, with a mediocre keeper in Michael Fraser. A goalie who was already essentially away, poor at coming for crosses and horrific at distribution. He also stuck with him for a number of previous games where his lack of ability not to concede goals cost ICT immensly, a number of goals that chances are wouldn't have been conceded had the better keeper, Ryan Esson been in goal. These are not the acts of a "man for the job".

I don't, not anymore. I was actually quite keen on bringing Butcher in before and when his name was being touted both before and when Brew was booted out, but now I wish someone else had gotten the job. If Butcher was the man for the job, he'd have kept ICT in the SPL. Did he do that? No. If Butcher was the man for the job, he would've tried to keep the best players, especially the best younger ones that ICT had. Did he do that? No. Vigurs played about 10 minutes during Butcher's first game and then disappeared. Duff seems to be another one who was one for the future and a decent player just now but seems to have disappeared under Butcher. He now has a bad injury and I won't be at all surprised if he's the next one out the door, with this injury possibly being the excuse. If Butcher was the man for the job, he would've made some decent signings. Has he done that? No. If Butcher was the man for the job, he would've offered a very capable player a contract. Did he do that? No. Pavels Mihadjuks was a very capable centre-half from the little I saw of him and was very highly thought of by the fans. He was also a capable player in a position where ICT had desperately needed a capable player in that position, since the departure of Darren Dods. Whether he would've signed it or not is one thing, but not to even offer him one was madness. If Butcher was the man for the job he'd have a proven record at other clubs showing how good he can be. Did/Does he have a capable record? No. Observe - Sunderland - SACKED. Coventry City - SACKED. Motherwell - Finished bottom in his first season, and was only saved by Brockville. He may have finished 6th and 8th in the coming seasons ahead, but would he have kept his job had Falkirk had the capablities to replace Motherwell, the team that should have been relelgated? Perhaps not. Sydney FC - SACKED. Brentford - SACKED. Do you see a pattern arising here? Doesn't even look like a mediocre record to me, rather a pretty poor one. And last and certainy not least, if Butcher was the man for the job he would've gone into the final game of the season, the relegation decider and the most important game in ICT history, playing a simple and steady formation and team selection. Did he do that? No. He played Tokely out of position at centre-half, and played Mihadjuks, a very capable centre-half at right back, a position he had never played before. Utter madness. One things almost certain in my mind now though, and that's that ICT will probably not be in the SPL next season and should that be the case, I highly doubt that Butcher will not be here next season, should ICT not be promoted.

Barrowman as the lone striker for a home game....no thanks.

:sleep01: Still going with this campaign.. Aye, he'd give much more down the flanks than Eagle would/does.

Not too bad a selection but if it were me playing that team, Proctor would be on the right with Hayes on the left. Also don't fancy one up front and would go for Rooney, Foran and Sanchez as out and out strikers.

For ages, and you can look back at my old posts if you like, I thought Duncan was rubbish. I still don't think he's particularly amazing, nor quite as good as McBain, but what I would give to have him back in the first team you wouldn't believe. He might be a poor passer, but he has the experience and hold the ball up well, which is desperately needed at this time in ICT history. Stratford for me aint good enough at all. I was also told a few weeks back on the grapevine, that Duncan aint happy right now, due to constantly being on the bench. Unless he get his place back soon, it looks like he may well be away.

Nah, if Butcher's still in charge, he'd just bring in more garbage.

After a right shocker, it's time to change it around and first and foremost, bring back attacking football. 3-5-2 for me: ------------------------------------------Esson--------------------------------------------------- ------------Tokely-----------------------Munro----------------------Golabek------------------ ------------------------------------------Duncan------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------Cox--------------------------McBain-------------------------------- ---Hayes-------------------------------------------------------------------------Djebi-Zadi--- ---------------------------Foran-------------------------Rooney------------------------------- Subs - Allison, Sanchez, Barrowman, Proctor/Bulvitis, Eagle If ICT want to win the league this season, attacking football has to return. I'm going with a very attacking 3-5-2. Esson is goal, Tokely moves into the right side of midfield, Golabek on the left, with Munro in the centre playing a sort of sweeper/libero role. Tokely and Golabek should go forward at times, taking turns about, with Munro and Duncan hanging back. Duncan comes in for Stratford in a sort of holding role at the back of the midfield. Cox stays in alongside McBain. Experience is needed in the midfield, and Duncan and McBain can provide that. The job of Cox and McBain should be to ping the ball out wide to Hayes and Djebi-Zadi. Hayes is on the right wing constantly making long runs up the wing. He could also try cutting inside and having a shot. Djebi-Zadi is re-introduced and once again I've placed him at left-wing. He should use his height and pace to run at the opposing full-back as Hayes would do on the right. Again, attacking was always his strongest point and in this position, should he make a blunder, it wouldn't be as suicidal as it would be at the back. There are also players back to cover him. Rooney starts up front with Foran. The tacics once again are simply keeping the ball down as much as possible, playing the ball wide as much as possible.

From what I've seen, bar Cox and Hayes, most of Butcher's signings have been pretty poor.

See My Comments On this Thread. Hardly Boo Boy Material Are They?

lol....you have to accept I'm very biased but how do you think Utd, L'pool, Arsenal, Chelsea or for that matter the Old Firm got success? There isn't a club who have won anything who haven't bought a player to make them better. wasn't it hoped Marius would do this? If Caley came about a ?10m windfall should they stick it in the bank and not spend it to help secure promotion? Being a loyal fan of an unsuccessful team is laudable.......but we all like a day in the sun. After nearly 40 years of spending money following a team with little to show for it I'd love a few shiny trophies..at City AND at Caley. In recent years there have been too few 'surprise winners' of trophies. The Old Firm have it sown up here and apart from Pompey winning the FA Cup it's been fairly predictable down south What about Brian's Clough's Nottingham?

Please explain how this thread is "shockingly bad".

He once played for the Samoan U20s, apparently there was a lot of effort put in to actually get him to play for Australia. His brother, Chris Cahill (I think that's his name) is actually the captain of the Samoan National Team. Still don't see what Fijians and Samoans have to do with ball control though.