Renegade

He was past his sell by date when he came back a few seasons ago. Great the first time round, absolutely rubbish now.

Alright suit yourself... <_<

"Russell Duncan, Lionel Djebi-Zadi and David Proctor are in contention to start against fellow promotion hopefuls Partick ? who beat Dunfermline 2-0 last Saturday ? because Ross Tokely and Robert Eagle remain doubtful after injury ruled them out of the cup tie." Quote from the article. That sounds to me like Lionel could be in Butcher's plans to start. Could also be Journalistic spin too of course.

Our good friend Phil McGuire! Apparently he's there for a few months before going to play in America.

According to today's Courier, Butchers quite keen on starting with three strikers (Foran, Sanchez and Barrowman), and is looking at re-introducing Lionel Djebi-Zadi should Eagle be out so presumably that'll be three strikers with Lionel at left wing! Can't wait for the game now. Also says that as well as Lionel, David Proctor and Russell Duncan are all in contention for a starting spot.

Didn't know there was anything about the Cox scouts on and it was not off here I learnt it off. I have no idea how Roy McBain's happiness cycle works, but I have heard from a source with presumably more knowledge than I do that Duncan is very unhappy about not getting a game.

According to someone on P&B, Wyness is off to Queen of the South on loan.

The same could be said for Robbo. But seriously looking back now I'm not sure Ossie was as bad as some made out. I know he's been sacked a few times (like Butcher), but he has had some success (unlike Butcher). He would certainly play some great football, and that in the long term sells season tickets.

Tongan women have a knack for juggling.

Oh dear a little jealous are we? But seriously, I have no idea how happy or unhappy McBain is just now, but I am led to believe that a certain large SPL sent scouts to the Albion game just to look at Cox. I'll give you a clue, they play in blue.

Not sure about that, Ossie did have some success with Swindon getting them promoted to the old Division One and he won the J League. I see that Ossie has now said that he's interested in taking the Argentina job, should Maradona get the sack!

HT - ICT 1-0 Partick Thistle FT - ICT 3-1 Partick Thistle ICT 1st scorer - Cox Partick 1st scorer - Buchanan Attendance - 3,458

Some of you may be interested to know that my inside info is that Duncan is very unhappy about not getting his place at the moment. He could be the next to go. And Cox might be away sooner than expected too. A certain SPL sides scouts were having a look at him.

My mistake never saw it :crazy07: Though I am led to believe that Morrison and Sutherland will be away on loan next, with Ross and Allison staying put.

According to the Daily Record, Daniel Park has gone on loan to Keith.

I for one would love to see ICT try out three at the back at home. It worked excellently under Steve Paterson, who was very big on the 3-5-2. It was more entertaining, but what did it win us? 3rd Division Title and promotion to Divison One.

IIRC I put up a link to a Latvian when Bulvitis signed, that said he could play centre-back or left or right back. Don't know how good he is round there though.

I for one would love to see ICT try out three at the back at home. It worked excellently under Steve Paterson, who was very big on the 3-5-2. I'd like to see 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 being used at home a lot more often, unfortunately Mr Butcher and Mr Malpas seem to think that the extremely predictable 4-4-2 or worse the 4-5-1 are the only two formations allowed in football. 4-3-3 is also an option I'd consider but worry with that would be that it might be too narrow for the likes of Hayes, Eagle and Imrie. For me attacking football has to return especially at home. Teams that play attacking football are almost always far more successful than the "punt-and-hope-to-the-big-guy-up-front" style that a lot seem to do with now. I know some will say that games are won and lost in the midfield which may be true in some cases, but if you keep the ball up you the other end, then you don't need as many in defense. Also, if you play one up front, the centre-back can deal with him for the full backs can go forward and attack (if you were playing four across the back), meaning the other team have to hold more back to defend. To me it just makes sense to play attacking football at home, but my only worry at the moment with three across the back is do ICT have the right sort of defenders to do it? Tokely is the only one with any real presense in the defense at the moment and the likes of Djebi-Zadi would be too unpredictable to be part of a three man back line. What is needed in the transfer window is a big centre-half, someone who could play well in a three man defence, a Bobby Mann to slip in between Tokely and Munro.

I'm not trying to justify having 33 players on the books. I just reckon that a decent right winger and predominantly a big centre-half (perhaps as well a sub keeper, though not so deserately) are needed to be brought in for ICT to succeed. Doesn't matter if others like Tokely or Proctor can "play" there, cause a new one is needed. Ok?

ICT may have cover, but are they any good? The other thing with all that "cover" is that none of them are natural centre-backs. They might alleged be known as players wo can play there, but that doesn't mean their any good. And here's anothe thing, Proctor had long spells at centre-back under Brew and was rubbish. Tokely's inability to play there are one of the reasons ICT were relegated. I've no idea how good Golabek is at centre-back and Lionel would just be too nuts. Of those players you put: Sutherland - Plays right back I think, never seen him so can't comment on how good he is. Proctor - Played centre-back under Brew was hopless every time. Djebi-Zadi - Don't want him there, causes it would probably be disasterous. Shinnie - A left back and a small one at that. Can't see him doing a good job at centre-back.

What about Mark de Vries? Played for Dundee United a couple of seasons back after going on loan from Leicester. Playing for a second tier Dutch side just now.

GK - I've seem Allison twice and felt each time he was dodgy. I would like to see a decent and affordable keeper being brought in to compete with Esson. RB - Tokely is obviously the first choice and there's enough to fill in with Proctor, Cox, Stratford and Duncan all able to fill in there. CB - This is a place where someone is needed. Munro is looking good this season, but I'm still no convinced by Bulvitis (or Bull In a China Shop as I call him). Looks clumsy and error prone and has given away both a penalty and an own goal in the space of a week! Desperately need a big, commanding centre half I reckon to go in next to Munro, with Bulvitis filling in if needed. LB - Enough left backs now. Golabek seems to now be the first choice, with Djebi-Zadi slipping in if needed. There's also Shinnie waiting in the wings, who did very well against Albion, and Roy McBain who can also play at Left Back. Midfield - Enough left wingers and centre midfielders at the moment but right footed Hayes-type is needed. Ross is one but he might not be ready for a start yet. Odhiambo can also play at right wing and Foran (who is right footed), but is Odhiambo big enough and would these two be better off putted up front. Strikers - Enough for now, but a cutting edge striker like Dargo is really needed. Someone who can score for fun. Foran could get the goals but he needs someone to feed off. I'm not convinced by Sanchez yet, but Barrowman and Foran up front could be the answer with Rooney waiting in the wings.

Just thinking earlier that ICT have a real lack of centre-halves at the moment. Aside from Munro, Duff (who's now out for the season) and Bulvitis there's really no natural centre-backs at ICT. But here's the thing, if Munro and/or Bulvitis are injured/banned/has a shocker where do ICT go? I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Tokely moved back in to the middle with Proctor or Stratford filling in at right back (Cox can play right back as well but hasn't yet for ICT and I reckon his sort of player is desperately needed in the centre of the park). I for one think that would be a bad move as Tokely IMO ain't a centre-half. Proctor was always poor at centre-half and I can't see Lionel doing well there. The same goes for Golabek. So what do ICT do? From what I can see there's no decent centre-half to fill in from the bench should a problem arise and a big centre-half has to be found either now on loan or a free agent, or someone's going to have to be brought in in January, as this seems to be the one position at ICT where there is a real lack of players. The best thing to do I reckon might be to look at accomplished defenders who are in their thirties and winding down their career, to compete for a centre-back slot. Discuss.

If click on the Grant Munro one, you come up with some interesting info. I had no idea he works in Tesco!

What about the big centre-half from Ayr Kevin James?