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I think many will be wary of that kind of event, sounds a bit fishy

This is just using the community angle to lever the process in their favour on a mutually beneficial arrangement for a project that likely would be instantly rejected without using the local links. Is it really much different to a developer building or financing local groups to support a play park or school or community facility in return for having their proposal passed? This is just the private company directly returning finances to a group that supports the community project - youth groups, school visits etc (just its all centered around football)? There is a lack of clarity what or whether directors will directly benefit on a personal level, but again is that really any different to most of these 'mutually beneficial' deals?

Lucky we released a few high earners then signed all these loans everyones been complaining about and wont be saddled with longterm salaries in 12 weeks time then

Citing poor performances and loosing games as a reason for not returning is (in my opinion) what we hear from OF fans. However I do agree that the entertainment is dropping due to our playing style this is directly linked to the quality of players we have which is all finance driven - through through dropping numbers of fans and therefore lower revenues this will continue in a decreasing spiral unfortunately. The biggest issue is that given other forms of similar entertainment for the price point of football, the experience as a fan is poor. This isnt unique to ICTFC but nothing is or has changed for decades - yet unlike history where there wasnt the vast spread of leisure activities on offer clubs could be complacent , relying on loyalty - this is no longer the case. Its a whole new off topic thread and discussion but attending football is a habit not pleasure.

How many of them have built battery storage facilities and previously put together proposals for such ? Its not one size fits all and although apples are fruit, not all fruit are apples.

.......or maybe some in HC just are upset they never got some business trips, golf wknds and fancy meals during the engagement stage

In this case if the club had gone without expert inputs everyone would say how its unprofessional etc, but on this occasion it actually looks like they considered the approach most would deem prudent. The gaps outlined in the initial proposal were a identified and addressed, it may be argued that a more robust proposal could have been made, but why burn time and money if it is considered by all that it was adequate based on previous analogues?

With calls for Dunc to go already in some corners of our support, it's maybe worth revisiting what expectations were on arrival. Concensus was 4th to 8th with us currently 8th and only 4 points off 5th is this not what was expected as being optimistic?

I'm glad we still have Mcgregor around so there's calls for him to play each week now as our saviour since Bray went out on loan.

Thats the thing though, we got spoony on the back of being crocked and no club for months and wrong side of 30. All in it was a gamble and he could have flopped like Sheridan. Not sure we have the money to throw at more perma-crocks just to keep physios busy.

TBF, if the application was 'shoddy' is that really fully at the door of the club, you surely blame the experts ILI given their involvement having provided consultants and support. Sounds like another cheap dig at the board based on bias rather than facts. Additionally let's not overlook this application was approved was so clearly those with the decision making powers thought more of it than some online experts.

Based on our finances, location and being January who do you suggest was available to meet that criteria which we missed?

Huge game tomorrow at EEP, results depending over there, we could be 2nd bottom or only 3 points off the bottom spot with a game more played if we dont pick up something. 3 points badly needed and a home win for some confidence, but expect PT to sit in knowing we will be insipid and a nervous afternoon all round.

None of which is unique to just this regime though, as the club has systematically over the years failed to develop a sustainable model and create alternate revenue streams.

I suspect they would have offered to swap the venue to forfeit any chance of sporting success on return for increased revenue and a day out in corporate areas of 'the big house'

Does anyone really believe if we never took loans or short deals this season (including Wotherspoon) we would actually get points persevering with start of season the Dodds squad?

Pros - we can afford them and they are willing to come and play Cons - we can't afford anyone better or risk longterm contracts because if we are relegated to the seaside leagues it'll bankrupt us

Fans were happy to defend dodds during utterly horrific runs of results yet seem to want the new guy out after a few months when trying to sort out our **** show that was left Perhaps the fact he inherited a squad with only a 34 year old striker and zero creative players which was leaking goals might be worth considering. The point he has seen all these issues and with our limited budget managed to bring in during what is seen as a difficult transfer window some options, more time is needed to see if it works. All those wild shouts for imrie need to consider we can't afford compensation and ultimately that Morton squad exceeds our quality levels so why would he have chosen to leave a club he has turned around to walk into a (smaller club) with a worse financial mess?

Have to agree. While be had some credit in the bank from last season, he's run out of that this time. Too often his touch is poor, lightweight, bad decisions and passes which questions whether he's deserving of a start. We all hope he turns it round but right now a waste of a shirt unfortunately.

Realising when a player like Oakley is at your club play him in the right position and you see the benefits rather than letting egos get in the way. Out of all the Robbo/Dodds recruitment decisions letting or wanting him gone is one of the worst. Anyway, Martin Boyle plays well and we will loose, contain him and we can win. I expect hibs to come at us more than visiting teams in the league so hopefully more space to get in behind which we seem better at.

Not ensuring a percentage of any long term profits at the expense of reducing the initial lump sum may prove an unwise move.

Not sure that's the case. He clearly identified there were weaknesses in the squad which he has looked to address, however we need to wait and see if the recruitment he has undertaken is better than those jettisoned where he felt they had levels of culpability. In patches we moved the ball well but it was too infrequent and in areas that offered little forward threat. Latter chasing the game was reverting back to high ball, hit and hope which agreed is verging close to Doddsball. Overall we have gone from rock bottom with a solitary point and looking like loosing every week to sitting above relegation with remote possibility of pushing up the table although promotion play-offs are highly unlikely. Is that progess, a little I guess.

Controversial and early days but I'm not convinced some of these guys are going to be better than Carson or Welsh. Although others have improved positions. However I do expect given how deep visiting teams set up against us we will get more success away from home.

I expect QP to be negative as all Davidson teams are. Another game of the visitors sitting deep but hopefully now we have some creativity to break them down. Can't see is getting many as I doubt QP will open up even if behind, but after the RR result we should have some confidence among the squad and new guys.

Loan to Elgin is surely an option