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So the lack of money available in Scottish Football and the inability of the club to offer salaries that players expect is all the fault of TB. Seems there is a hardcore TB witch hunt on here with certain fans - its all getting very boring and predictable that every thread has the same people posting their anti TB comments. Sure there have been managerial mistakes with certain players coming in, but others have been a success. Promotion, SPL survival, long inbeaten runs - I count that as not doing too bad. Ok we had a poor season this year and some of the football wanst great but most importantly we are still SPL so lets support the club and build from here for the future both finacially and on the field!!

None of the above. Have a baseline and for example pay 1 player 50% above that and to counter it have another 50% below. For example if we pay a baseline (not putting a cap) average of £1500 pw (I have no idea of the figures) - we pay a top player £2250 and a youth or reserve player £750 pw. But ensure we do that based on the first 11 that we would want to play - yes it creates a bigger gulf between the top 11 earners and the rest but prehaps there is no choice?

About ICT yes a little but we will manage to survive be it in D1, or lower - least the football will be more competitive and not monopolised About the state, integrity and global perception of Scottish football as a joke - VERY!!!

While I partially agree about needing to offer longer contracts and lack of transfer fee revenue, it seems that throughout football unless its a world class star then nobody is paying fee's - I cant remember (apart from the OF) the last SPL club to pay a transfer fee and only real memories last year was Goodwillie leaving D Utd? Danger offering a longer deal is that 'if' we got relegated we could have too high a wage bill and be unable to slash costs, the other option is to put caveats in the contract about reduced salaries if relegated but lots of players (most) wont sign up to that. The situation drives us to 1 year deals and hope some players decide to remain loyal for longer. The positive is in the market that there will be a larger number of players to pick from as more clubs are in the same boat - I know we have a salary structure and after Marius dont want to create issues messing about with it, but given the current state I'd like to see a gamble where higher wages are paid to certain players like Hayes, or tyring for Black (as an example) and hope they stay fit with more youngsters as back up or lower league players - takie the gamble on having the best 11 possible then the back-ups will be average.

Edited it for you ;) Dont rate Gillet at all, not seen anything from him that suggests he is good enough quality - towards the end of the season he was awful and got caught out in several games. He does run fast, but really think we need more than that in any player we are trying to sign/keep.

Danny Cadamarteri - will be wanting too much cash and is frankly not very good - remember when he was at D Utd, harldy set the SPL on fire!!! JT - sub goalie so hardly played Proctor - not really played much last year Tansey - flattered to decive, wasnt that great or consistent Only real loss is Hayes. Tade yes, and he was top scorer but he wasnt exceptional or prolific and had as many bad games as good......still would have liked him to stay but we will see how good he is at St J next year (he isnt the quality of even Sandaza IMO).

Oh well 2 games in Eurpoe and fighting relegation because lets not kid about it the season St J just had was an exceptional one created by some very good loan signings who managed to do well and other bigger and better teams like Hearts & D Utd struggled to gel as quickly. But to think that will be repeated would be unrealistic - good luck to Tade but he wasnt exceptional for us this year and still has a lot of improvement in his game, sad he wasnt willing to do that with us.

Odd that Aberdeen offer that salary to Hayes (if true) but not to rising talent like Fyvie. With Tade gone, perhaps we should be looking to use his wages to offer Jonny a bit more - we struggles for goals last year so if we manage to get a striker from somewhere we need our best creative talent staying.

Cant afford either of them and both have plenty baggage. Riordan would be the better option of the 2 though as he seems to have less criminal issues. Both 2 talented players who are wasting away the oppertunities they get. Chippendale has been released from Huddersfield.

So thats our most creative player away and the leading scorer. Things arent looking too good so far - lot of work for TB to do now. Worried about the message this sends out to the rest of the squad :(

Yeah all over the backpage of the P&J in Aberdeen about him signing. Very disapointed if thats the case - over the last few years the Dons have shown to be a team in decline and all their talented young players leave. Really thought he could stay another year and free from injury have signed for a bigger (better) SPL club or even gone to Championship down south.

Today the term 'football star' was used to describe Garry O'conner when talking about his drugs case - also mentioned was Drogba getting an offer at Real Madrid as he too is a 'football star' - no distinction as to which shines brightest tho other tabloid terms 'busty' 'romp' any female model or tv star is a 'stunner'

While I want Rossco to stay, we have to put budgets in place, I have no idea of his salary, his offer or where that sits in the club overall. Sadly he isnt getting any younger and while he is experienced and leads us - if we cant agree a deal within the structure in place he will have to leave. If that money pays for 2 younger players and covers other openings in the squad so be it and we will have to rely on other more senior players to step up and show more passion & leadership. Sad time and state of affairs but this is Scottish football and how it may be in the future. Look at Hearts who cant keep Black - he has been their best player all season, this is a team who won a cup has a bigger fan base and qualified for European football - cant make a contract offer to a decent Scottish player (not even international level), D Utd are another example of a club where players are leaving year on year. Nobody in Scottish football has money :(

Crowds are dropping for several reasons - financial, poor product and the SPL being so uncompetitive the only hope we have of success anywhere is the cups. All this provides less income and cut backs. The whole of Scottish Football is a mess and in the last few years as a fan the most exciting thing to happen was promotion from D1 - perhaps we need to become a yo-yo club just so we can get that excitement back every few years as right now its all becoming dull and predictable. We will just have to hope that there are some young hungry players out there that can come in and excite the team. I'd perfer to see cut backs and remain financially stable long term unless its theres a decision that somewhere that cheating is allowed without sanctions then we can sign players we cant afford and try for Europe knowing we can start all over again in a few years debt free

FIFA to investigate penalty shoot-out alternatives http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18205513 Thoughts? Just leave well alone? Play on until a golden goal wins (like in school), Rock, paper, scissors? Really cant see what alternative options there can be?

Apparently St J have offered a contract to Hasselbank, so depends whether they are looking to pair Tade up with him or not as to a contract being offered now? Do SJ still have Riorden too or was he just a short term deal to the season?

Billy Dodds has supposedly resigned from his media work now.

Ex-page 3 Maria Fowler? Might provide more up front than we saw last season with our attack!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk...w-west-18148818 EBT beneficiaries. Shocking amounts to many. Cant beleive that Bob Malcolm & Marvin Andrews are listed and the amount they recieved. Cheats - plain & simple!!!

Dons are desperate to offload Fyvie down south and get cash this summer instead of waiting til Jan when his contract is up. They would be using that money to offer good salaries and probably see Hayes as an ideal candidate. Jonny should stay IMO, if he looks around at players like Cowie & Robson they have all left ICT to bigger and better clubs where they win things or play at a high level, if he stays for another year then he could move to a better club than currently on the table. This season he missed a lot of games through injury, a full season and he will be a much more sought after player.

Chris Mcguire has been told he can leave Derby along with Lee Croft, both are proven SPL players who could do a good job for us.

Sandaza is out of contract and Sheridan has returned back to his parent club, so guess they will need a striker. Really hope he signs for us if not that will leave use very thin up front if we cant bring anyone in - I think if there is more than 1 year on offer from St J sadly he will go there.

Really dont care who wins, but hope its a good entertaining game and acts as an advert for Scottish football that can highlight how good the game can be without the OF and their baggage for a change. Oddly whenever its a OF V a.n.other final I never want to see it but this one like County V DUtd, Hearts V Gretna etc I will make an effort to watch. Think it will be a Jambo day with Skacel & Beattie (2) doing the damage to a O'Connor reply - 3-1

Legend - No, but a safe, stable pair of hands in charge IMO. Nearly kept us up when we got relegated from wat looked a doomed position, got us back up 1st time of asking with a long unbeaten run, kept us unbeaten on the road for over a calender year and consolidated our SPL status 2 years running. Overall not doing too badly I think.

Thats gonna be the best post on the whole thread IMO.