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jaggie1994

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  1. We're playing exceptionally well apparently. I wish I decided to stay down in Glasgow this morining now
  2. :021: He's a Forward that scores.... who cares... Joint top scorer now isnt he? 4 goals now and if Rooney gets credit for scoring 5 goals the whole of last season Sanchez could almost be classed as prolific
  3. maybe they dont feel under so much pressure away as they would at home games. Its not surprising and when we are at home most people will be expecting us to win every game comfortably. Which we know is not going to happen Sounds like we are dominating just now lets hope we can double our lead Dundee are 2 up now. Griffiths got his second
  4. Of course our squad was better last season than this season. As an SPL club last year we would have to have a better squad. I always knew that our squad would be worse this season as soon as we got relegated. Im actually think it could have been a hell of a lot worse as we still have the likes of Imrie, Foran, Munro etc It is always going to be hard for the club to adjust to life in a new division especially when you have been relegated and I think now more than ever we need to stick together
  5. How can you tell that. Not just because the new players have not played enough games but how many games have these players you mentioned in the first post actually played. Vigurs was playing regular football while Brewster was in charge and he did look very promising but as far as im aware you would be lucky to get 10 first team appearences for the other 3. I might be wrong as I have not checked but they have not played a lot of football for us so I would find it hard to say that we have not replaced them with players equal to the players that left As well as that just being promising doesnt mean that they will be a good player. I do wish that they do well in their careers and be successful Especially Dale as I used to play football with him in the field across the road from Dows
  6. Well scotland are playing on saturday and ICT are playing on sunday. Why not make a weekend out of football :) Thats what im doing If Scotland win my body will be at the caley game but nobody will be home. On saying that it will be the same if Scotland dont win so try not to shout to loudly please
  7. Should you not have the option to say no? Whats the point in having the poll to find out the interest levels if people cant say that they would not be interested
  8. I don't care how bad he was. I'll be blunt that was one of the worst performances I've ever seen by a player in an ICT shirt. But you ever boo one if your own players. Never ever. There's is no right reason to boo your own player, you just should never do it. Oh no, whats happened to me? I thought this day would never, ever come but, I find myself totally agreeing with renegade. Lionel comes across as a hard working, friendlier version of Tokley, but with confidence issues. Why doesn't everyone try and help him to the top of his game by getting behind him (insert Graham Norton style innuendo here)? Booing him whilst he still has an influence over the game is an illogical action. Do these people think that Terry Butcher, a former international captain, and grown up adult, will select his team based on the booing of boozed up half wits, and crater faced children? Accept it, Lionel is a Caley player, and will be, at the very least, a Caley player up until Christmas, but more than likely for the next season. Get behind him! If you really feel that ICT are nothing more than a business, and you as a paying customer expect nothing but value for money, then don't come. Your 14 pounds (dam macs, the pound sign won't work) will get you much, much more value at cine world or Eden court theater than you will ever get at Caley park. You could also do what an alarming amount of people did, and get the car warmed up and beat the crowds home. Always been jealous of those folk, eating their dinner before I've even left the stadium........ Totally agree with that. I would much rather they didnt turn up. I wouldnt care if it lost the club money becuase I think it would do a hell of a lot more good for the players The only unfortunate thing is that most of them will never read this forum
  9. Cause one of the people im going with doesn't like the bus What do they have against the bus? The crap banter maybe
  10. CD your point is very valid regarding loyalty and giving people a chance. You will see quite clearly that at no point in any post did I mention their removal, dismissal or similar. I do not believe this is correct for our club. With regard to CB being given a chance, if I recall correctly, he was afforded the opportunity to sign Fillepe, Pavels and Byrne then sacked a fortnight or so later. Quality. Also aside from letting two of our best prospects go for free, what has TB down to turn things round? The point I have been trying to make and will continue to make is he and MM are not the Messiah and JTB. They are at best good football people with a reasonable grasp for the game, at worst incompetent coaches who belong on the TV or elsewhere. The adulation and sycophantic hero worship afforded TB in particular is repugnant when compared to the abuse dished out to his predecessor. And why? Because he played 300 games for England with a stupid bandage on? Because he helped Rangers win nine in a row? Because he's a great after dinner speaker? I want a good coach. I will only judge TB on what I see on the pitch not what he achieved as a player. His managerial record I have documented and aside for picking up on the good work that Billy Davies started at M'well and keeping it going, it is shocking. Disposing of two young guys like Vigs and Woody does not help. His treatment of Dale Gillespie was also shoddy at best. Finally, I am very, very uncomfortable with this dual role he occupies as I see absolutely no benefit for ICT and plenty downside. He wont have the dual role after the next 2 scotland games. I dont believe Butcher is the messiah but its not going to stop me getting 100% behind him for now. If by January we are lying in mid table with no hope of promotion then by all means get rid of him and all the criticsm that had been said today and yesterday will have been justified but after only 4 league games and 1 defeat no matter what anybody thinks about the other results we cant start getting on his back just yet. We need to give him a proper chance this season. He overturned a 7 point gap (or was it 4 im not sure) last season and yes we did throw it away in the last 3 games but would we have been in the same position with Brewster I dont think so. I reckon we would have been well off the pace. Butcher did the best to solve a problem that was left to late IMO I understand some of the complaints you have with Vigiurs and Wood but maybe something went on behind the scenes. We will probably never find out What happened between Butcher and Dale as well?
  11. I agree with you 100% it has been taken too far. It feels like their is a crisis going on (and not the top gear kind of crisis)
  12. I've tried this approach but, no matter where you sit, there's whingers all around you. As chibber said yesterday, it's almost as if people just come here for something to do on a Saturday. So true. Yeah it is a sad truth I was in the North Stand last year and it was no where near as bad as the main stand. I still dont think it will be much of a difference where ever I sit but the North Stand is a mile better from the experience I have had
  13. Absolutely spot on, Sorted. As you will have seen in my comments in post no. 46 of this thread, I find myself in agreement with most of what you say in relation to Butcher's performance so far, and track record at other clubs. I think many of our fellow fans are too caught up in the general hype that surrounds him, stemming from his undoubted successful playing days. There's no doubt he has charisma. He just needs to show more management nounce before he loses the goodwill of his flock of 'he can do no wrong' followers. Is there anything wrong in having faith in the man in charge though? Thats what its about. Getting behind the team through thick and thin players and staff. After 4 games into the league season surely you can blame people for wanting to give Butcher a chance to prove that he can get us back into the SPL Who cares what he did in the past it is what he does for us now. As I stated in a previous post which never got a reply. Where was the experience for Patterson, Robertson, Brewster and Christie. I know for certain there was none for all except Patterson. He might not of had any either but I dont really know
  14. They see last season's top goal scorer and he also reacts to chants etc. Good with the fans :angry05: Thats hilarious!! Think he scored 6 last season. Thats a big total to be proud off eh?!!! Better than Barrowman... our supposedly brillant striker on ?2,000 a week. ;) He must be one of our better strikers considering all them goals have been from the bench.... Who said anything bout barrowman being brilliant? Dont rate him either and wouldnt play either of them!! We have a decent striker in foran. We just need to find someone capable of playing alongside him. But no no no, you keep singing your rooney chants for no reason at all!!! So we are not allowed to sing about our players anymore? You dont have to be a good player to get the fans singing about you. It is about getting behind the team and not booing them when they have a bad game
  15. So he has done well has he, relegation says it all, he had chances to keep us up but quite frankly blew it good style. Since then he has failed to identify the squads deficiencies and make signings to address these failings, instaed he has concentrated on signing unexperienced and untested youngsters. His wage budget could have been spent more wisely. What experienced players could we get for free though? Robbie Winters maybe. I cant think of anyone else for free that is experienced He wouldn't have had to sign so many if he hadn't let two like Vigurs and Wood go!! A considerable amount of TB's problems are self inflicted as I see it. I did think letting those 2 go was a strange decision. It came back to bit us in the backside a bit
  16. Sutherland??? If its Zander, he's gone to Buckie. Barrowman, i thought he was already fit and he was just being left out of the selection. Shane Sutherland
  17. So he has done well has he, relegation says it all, he had chances to keep us up but quite frankly blew it good style. Since then he has failed to identify the squads deficiencies and make signings to address these failings, instaed he has concentrated on signing unexperienced and untested youngsters. His wage budget could have been spent more wisely. What experienced players could we get for free though? Robbie Winters maybe. I cant think of anyone else for free that is experienced
  18. Is barrowman going to be fit for this game? Esson Tokely Bulvitis Munro Djebi Zadi Eagles Cox McBain Hayes Foran Barrowman/Sutherland* Subs - Allison, Duff, Duncan, Gillespie, Barrowman/Sutherland/Rooney * Depends on Barrowman being fit
  19. you seem to be defending him quite a bit!! Would he be in your starting 11? I know that is not directed at me but I would play him against Partick. Its only a cup game and it is a perfect chance to see if he can bounce back. It is better than playing him in a league game which is im my opinion way more important than the challenge cup Its also the perfect chance to make changes to the team ahead of a massive game down at morton in 2 weeks. Mainly Lionel out!!!! thats a good point
  20. you seem to be defending him quite a bit!! Would he be in your starting 11? I know that is not directed at me but I would play him against Partick. Its only a cup game and it is a perfect chance to see if he can bounce back. It is better than playing him in a league game which is im my opinion way more important than the challenge cup
  21. Dont see why Cox might not be able to go on and play for a better team in the future. He is only 19 years old and from what I have seen so far he could be an excellant player for us. It is still far too early to tell. Some of these players might go onto bigger and better things you dont know. Just like im sure most of us never thought that Robson and Brown would go onto play for Celtic. Well not after 4 games you wouldnt
  22. calm yourself mun who said i was relating this directly to that one game? Me saying 'we are screwed' wasnt really the point in the thread. I was trying to make this a general topic! emmm you did. The first line of your first post Either way you cant judge the squads yet can you. Wait till the end of the season. Im sure if we win the league everyone will be saying how good the team was. You cant judge our players just now based on 4 games compared to a team that played 38 games. Its a bit soon to be making a topic like this
  23. Please **** Off It is one bloody defeat and all of a sudden the world is about to end Shut up with the we are screwed ****. We arnt it was one ******* defeat. This is really starting to **** me off all the threads about how it is a crisis. Just please go away and stop typing a load of rubbish
  24. CD, appreciate your thoughts but what I am trying to get to is what is the basis for this confidence in TB/MM? Can anyone give real examples of where they have delivered with any of the clubs they have been involved with in a coaching/managerial capacity? Do they have a history of signing little known players and blending them into an effective team unit? They did well at Motherwell eventually and I will give apart from that they have been crap but where was the experience for Steve Patterson, John Robertson, Craig Brewster and Charlie Christie. They didnt have any at all so it is good that we have got people who have the experince and hopfully they have learned from their mistakes
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