Oddquine

I assume that all those entities who quote directly from threads here and print off posts for passing around have received permission from either the individual/s making the post/s, or the administrators of the forum, depending who holds the copyright?

Nope...a public forum is one on which anybody and their dog can read all threads and posts without joining...and may join if they are interested in the type of stuff discussed. The requirement to join in order to read posts makes it a specific interest forum open to any interested member of the public....but that does not make it a forum available to the public. I repeat, he did not say anything in public.......he said whatever it was that offended within the confines of this specific interest forum to the 2,111 members of it...and somebody within this specific interest forum took offence. Beats me why that somebody could not just have given the ICT side of the story within the confines of this forum.

So you are saying that the ICT board's rights extend to one, other or a minion joining a fan's forum and reporting on what was said in private? Because this forum does require joining to read posts.........if it didn't I would probably not be here....got loads of other stuff to occupy my online time. As far as I am concerned....if CaleyD had done something to offend in public.....then he can take the consequences. However....as far as I can see......this forum is not a public one as I define public.......so, to read what is being said about anything at all it does require joining. Therefore, if you want to do logic........somebody has joined and has reported back to the ICT board....otherwise they would have no more idea of CaleyD's opinions than I would if I was reading without joining. ....and believe me.........if I could have read posts without joining I would have. Nothing to do with rights, imo.....more to do with decency. Yep, if someone involved, even in a voluntary capacity in ICT has trashed them in public...then I would have no problems with them being penalised. However, what long standing members might have forgotten....this is most definitely not a public forum....so if anyone joins in order to gain information as to fans' opinions in order to keep the Board informed........they are spying. Simple as. Revbirdog, do you not do logic.....or are you an ICT board apologist?

And the conflict of interest is where, exactly? Has CaleyD ever in public trashed the plonkers who run ICT? This forum requires that you join before you can read...therefore it is NOT a public forum......NOT A PUBLIC FORUM! Nothing CaleyD has ever said re the ICT board has been viewable by anyone but members. I think very little of any member of the ICT board if they join a fans' forum only to spy on what is being said without the decency/ability/will to take on board what is being said...and even less if they are encouraging ICT minions to report back to them (though the minions kinda need to look at themselves as well if they would like to claim a semblance of decency). Being a cynic par excellence......I do wonder if CaleyD has been skirting the truth, and the board are not too happy with that......methinks that penalising people for their opinions means that those opinions are nearer to the bone than the board are prepared to admit. The whole thing is little short of a disgrace and does make one wonder what the board is trying to hide.

Poor poor show. By the way, got a tip off about this, very good My name is Gordon Urquhart Season book 00948 I am Spartacus... Love it! ROFLMAO!

ICT certainly used to do the school holiday courses........but maybe not now they are so hard up. But given the number of schools from Inverness to Nairn, maybe the school holidays just aren't long enough to get up to Caithness and Sutherland.

Probably. The Inverness/Nairn envelope has a much larger proportion of options than the whole of Ross-shire and Skye. More schools= more kids............so I suppose less reason to look elsewhere and increase the cost of travel for the club. Have to say I did think that ICT had kids from other counties....but they were maybe not picked up through the community system but through scouting.

Ooops! what do the asterisks say...I don't read asterisks..comes with being a pensioner, I do better with decent English. Just how much more pathetic is it than Ross County......given that ICT has two of their squad in the Scotland under 16's as of now? How many Ross County players have been called up to play for their country lately? So Scotland scouts think those specific players are good enough to be called up..but you know different. Out of interest, how many Ross County u-19 players have had a decent run in the first team? If you have a friend playing for ICT who thinks it is crap...why has he not managed to find himself another better youth squad? I was under the impression that ICT resigns youth players from year to year...so all he has to do is refuse to resign if it is that bad, and tout his skills among other teams. If you have written to ICT regarding their youth policy, more power to your elbow..if you phrased it better than this post. However you have singularly failed to show where the youth setup at ICT is markedly different to that at Ross County, bar the fact that ICT has dropped their under 19 squad..and I have already said that I felt that that was a big mistake......and something which will eventually come back and bite them on the bum.

more like "if only someone else handled the contract negotiations" Why does ICT need a DOF anyway? Never understood why it was necessary in the SPL, and there appears even less reason to have one now.

Can you explain to me how they can show how good they are (regardless of whether you are talking about the current ex U-19s or the current Scotland U-16 players and any other decent players in the youth system) if ICT is not prepared to give them a chance..........and a chance is not sitting on the bench and getting on for the last few minutes of a game already won. The Hamilton system would be just as crap as you think the the ICT one is, if directors/management were not prepared to take a chance and accept the consequences. ICT is not prepared to take that chance because they fear the consequences. There is nothing wrong with the ICT youth system, as far as it goes....there is, however a problem with the attitude of the ICT hierarchy towards their youth system...as evidenced by the removal of the under 19 tier, which is the one which holds onto the best of those trained at cost to ICT over the years. Out of interest, just how do you know that the ICT youth set-up doesn't even look across all the Highlands? How could you know, as there is minimal information given about the youth setup on ICT's website compared to other teams within the system, such as Ross County? (is this not going off topic a shade? maybe worth a thread of its own)

Liam Polworth, and to an extent Kyle Whyte? We've also got Nick Ross and Graeme Shinnie, but sadly we are stuck with a management team, who just don't rate them. Is it not rate.......or is it just that directors/management are still in the "get back up this season" mindset, and experience in ICT's U-19 youth squad pales into insignificance compared to those with even limited experience of games in the lower divisions elsewhere? Perhaps, if/when, we are sitting comfortably in the middle of the table, out of relegation or promotion danger, then the building for the future will begin and good younger players will get their chance to show what they can do. If not, why bother having a youth set-up at all? We neither appear to use it or make money out of it.

Did the player who set up his goal not also come from ICT as well?

I notice Gordon Smith is ready to seek talks over a winter shutdown in Scottish leagues. Here But the heid bummer of the SPL disagrees here Anyone think beating the drum about a winter shutdown for years will do any good against the attitudes of those who think tradition is all........even if the supporters end up with double pneumonia?

Cricket? You mean the insect? What does that have to do with anything remotely resembling sport? Strikes me that for many years we have had summer football by default to an extent, because the league ain't finished until the league is finished..and called off games still have to be played.....however far into the "off-season" that takes, don't they? At least a specific winter shut down does let you know where you are from the off...and I'd do it for the six weeks or so mid-December/January. May not hit all the bad weather everywhere, everytime..... but will it ever really? But it seems easier trying to fit in the odd game into a full calendar than six weeks of games for all the leagues for sure. Not being in the best of health, I'd not be attending games, however rabid a supporter I was, in temperatures which were verging on the cusp of freezing for weeks........even undersoil heating does me no good at all! So my donation to club expenses would certainly stay in my pocket. Change the set-up and professional footballers get a month off over Christmas and New Year and a couple of weeks off in Summer........comparing their lot to those 9-5 wage earners, with a 28 day entitlement to holidays, who dish out the cash to pay their wages......... the problem is exactly what?

Inclined to agree, CaleyD. But having read the thoughts of so many on this forum, even if the manager decided to bench some of the younger players when the team is safe and can afford to lose games to give them a run out......are they going to be trashed in the same intemperate terms as the current players are? ICT's biggest mistake was to pull out of the SFL under 19 league.........because that would have been an ideal opportunity to bring on good under 17s who don't necessarily attract a wage.........and keep the u-19s who don't regularly figure in the first team match fit. With the best will in the world.......how can you assess how good bad or indifferent an U-19 player is going to be in a competitive game just by watching them at training? Out of interest, has Butcher and/or Malpas ever actually watched the older youth teams in their games on Sundays to look over the possibilities for the future?

Shame that....they were looking forward to it, as well.

As far as I know, the reason for the early kick off is to get the lads to Perth in time for the final. Given all the threads arranging pub meets ahead of the cup game...good to think there will be thirty or so stone cold sober people at the game! <joking>

Last time I was on looking at the youth fixtures.....before checking just now....it said venue to be confirmed. Looks as if the idea didn't come off. Pity though.........the youth teams often play better football than the big boys!

Will it make any difference? The manager doesn't kick the ball on the park..and whatever his ability in the motivation stakes.........he can't make world-class players where there are none.

Much better than Got humped out of the Scottish Youth Cup by Airdrie. The youth set-up is a good one, and it is a pity that ICT didn't continue the u-19s........if only for the fact that they may very well lose some very good U-17s at the end of this season as they have nowhere to go in ICT under the present set up with no u-19 or reserve football to hold them and give them competitive games. On the whole, the youth teams have more than held their own against their age group equivalents from much bigger SPL teams......and the U-17 squad has many very good and some exceptional players, like Liam Polworth, for example, within their ranks......and who will most likely at the age of 17 be ditched by ICT to find their football elsewhere. Does ICT really want a youth set up which produces players for every team in the league but themselves........or do they want a future for ICT with home grown players who will play their hearts out for the club which gave them their training and their chance at their dream? Great post and the final question asks it all - But yet again it is all about experienced management. By that, I assume you mean club management as opposed to team management. If so, I totally agree.

Much better than Got humped out of the Scottish Youth Cup by Airdrie. The youth set-up is a good one, and it is a pity that ICT didn't continue the u-19s........if only for the fact that they may very well lose some very good U-17s at the end of this season as they have nowhere to go in ICT under the present set up with no u-19 or reserve football to hold them and give them competitive games. On the whole, the youth teams have more than held their own against their age group equivalents from much bigger SPL teams......and the U-17 squad has many very good and some exceptional players, like Liam Polworth, for example, within their ranks......and who will most likely at the age of 17 be ditched by ICT to find their football elsewhere. Does ICT really want a youth set up which produces players for every team in the league but themselves........or do they want a future for ICT with home grown players who will play their hearts out for the club which gave them their training and their chance at their dream?

Was he? You know what the team was? The ICT site doesn't bother with Youth Team info.

Humped seems a bit hard. Given that Airdrie plays regularly in the SFL U-19 league......and ICT's team was a one-off team of under 19s, 2nd year u-17s and 1st year u-17s I thought they did as well as could be expected...........after all the u-17s played on the Saturday as well (and beat St Mirren 4-3). Appears that the first half was better for ICT than the second. Some tired ICT legs.......or an Airdrie half time "talk" that Butcher could take a lesson from if he is looking for a good effect?

If this is a remotely correct statement No evidence has been been forthcoming of a written transfer request and the Inverness majority shareholder, David Sutherland, was quoted in April 2008 questioning whether Niculae?s reported ?4,000-a-week wages could be maintained.Furthermore, Graeme Bennett, the Inverness director of football, admitted on the day of Niculae?s sale: ?It is a straight deal although Marius is entitled to a percentage of the fee agreed.? from Here then the ICT Board is expensively whistling in the wind. The current board as a whole couldn't run a party in a brewery, far less a football club.......and is the biggest part of the problems perceived within this club imo.

well I hope that was the youngseters getting a competitive game and not a bounce game. It was a mix of fringe first team players, recovering first team players, under 19s and under 17s..mostly for the benefit of getting injured players match fit again, I should think.