MrCaleyjag

9v0............... I know this is the matchday thread but Mark McGhee is an absolute disgrace, as are Aberdeen!!!!!!

Come on Caley comeback is on!!!! I hate no knowing what's happening lol

Not so shure maself - it was just a case of collision - you dont ger those type of decisions at Ibrox. Cant believe that the highlights didnt include the Hayes run in the closing minutes where a cut cabck to Foran, or even Rooney would have been a sure fire winner. It's not so much a collision as Weir turns into him rather than the two colliding. Knows exactly what he's doing, but like you say, you don't get them at Ibrox. Couldn't agree more. Weir definitely deliberately turned into Foran to block off his run. There was no attempt to get the ball whatsoever. With the benefit of the replays I think this is a stonewall penalty and, debatably, a straight red for Weir. I also agree that you don't get those type of decisions at Ibrox, unless of course you are wearing a gers shirt! Nevertheless, still a brilliant result. Well done to all concerned!! At the time I said to Caleyjag I thought it should have been a penalty but at real time I wasn't sure, I've just watched the highlights and it should have been a penalty. If that was at the other end it would have been given without a thought.

I totally agree with everyone about playing the whistle and that was my reaction when I seen it, or rather seen the reply of it because ESPN missed it. In the context of how the game went and no freekick being given it is a legitimate goal. My problem is the lineman didn't have the guts to stand up and be counted and insist that it was a freekick for the handball by Nani which should have been what happened. The other thing was the ref telling the Tottenham players to retreat but then lets Rio Ferdinand stand there giving his opinions throughout the whole time they discussed it. Thanks god it didn't happen to Celtic cause the world would have come to an end!!!

Here's one that is sure to cause a few arguments in the pub and probably already has done. Nani's goal against Tottenham, should it have stood or not? Does it highlight the need for referee's to come out and explain decisions? For me the only way I can see that Mark Clattenberg gave the goal was because the ball was still active and he never gave a free-kick, the linesman obviously thought he had by flagging or maybe he flagged for handball by Nani when he fell over. All very strange in my opinion but for me it shouldn't have stood because Tottenham should have had a free-kick for the handball when Nani fell over. It's good to see that refereeing decisions like this are happening elsewhere and deflecting the attention away from recent events in Scottish games.

Just back from making a weekend of it in Glasgow and loved it especially the feeling when Odi hit the back of the net. I thought we thoroughly deserved our point and at times were slightly unlucky not the make McGregor work more with some of the chances we had. Yes they had a lot of possession but they never really looked like they were going to create anything worthwhile and if anything underestimated us. The policing/stewarding was fantastic and common sense prevailed as it should do. The only downside however from my point of view was the woman who told me to shut up twice in the same breath when all I was doing was giving encouragement to the team at a point when we were breaking and I wanted them to put the ball out wide. At no point did I criticise the team so your outburst wasn't warranted. I also noted that you never once told anyone else to 'shut up' so if you are on here reading this I hope you feel ashamed of yourself, and to note also that I didn't retort as I was so shocked. PS: Caleyjag noted that you didn't even jump up when we scored!!!

tbh I wouldn't change it as I would always have Duncan in my team and prefer to go for a bit of containment in midfield, we need to try something slightly different at home to try and change our form. The question is if you were to change it who would you take out to put Odi in? It would be unfair on all from yesterdays game to leave any of them out however I do think if TB changes it, Duncan will be the one to make way, a bad call in my opinion if it happens as it has done already this season.

I've been looking at the table from both sides this season and am delighted that we have the chance to go third next weekend without any other results having to go our way to make it happen, yes it's still early but is still nice to say that we have that chance. It could be the springboard the team needs to some good home form. Saying that I was slightly disappointed that St Mirren, Kilmarnock and Hamilton all won this weekend as I like to see us getting further away from them although I still believe that relegation will be battled out by these three. I will always keep an eye on the bottom of the table until mathematically we are safe.

I wasn't worried at all about how the stewards and police would handle things yesterday as they deal with it week in week out and handle 50000 or 60000 fans a week depending were the game is (well that's when the best fans in the world turn out), did notice that a few of the boys were spoken to but that's as far as it went, from what I saw. Common sense policing and stewarding is always the way to go, a leaf needs to be taken out of Strathclyde Police' book at other stadiums around Scotland.

Me & Caleyjag will be there, travelling down to Glasgow on Friday night to make a weekend of it

Does anyone know when the SPL Prediction League will be updated? The Dundee Utd v Celtic game still doesn't have the score in against it. Can you tell I'm sitting bored at work

This definitely confirms that me and Caleyjag are a couple of Teuchters : sitting watching the game on Alba with sound down listening to Runrig haha

The sheep usually always play terrible after a game against Rangers so here's hoping it continues. I'm going for a 2v1 victory for us today. Come on Caley, I hate this lot lets get in about them

I feel really sorry for him and agree that he should walk away but the guy loves and lives for football so he was always going to take it. He is clearly not well and does suffer from a mental illness but clearly there are people who still feel that they can use him to boost their profile which unfortunately I feel this is no matter how much Simon Clifford says it's not.

Not for me and I'm glad that he has finally come out and stated that he won't play for Scotland again. A guy that has to think about playing for his country shouldn't even be welcomed back in my opinion. He should have been big enough to accept that he made a mistake and working in the business he does it would be the centre of attention for the whole of the press fraternity for months to come, by not giving a proper answer he just kept it dragging out. I also believe that the persistence in asking him if he would play for Scotland again would have made his already over inflated ego even bigger. Furthermore had he come back it was almost backing Levein into a corner in the fact that he would have to play him, why persue him for that long to potentially not play him. For at least his last two years at Rangers he was very poor and continually made back and sidewards passes with no forward invention and his most notable trait was to stick his chest out and blame and berate anybody else who made a mistake especially the younger players. I for one do not want a player like that in my team, encouragement is what is needed not what Barry Ferguson does. Yes down in England with Birmingham he is playing well but he has better players round him and the spotlight isn't on him. If he had of decided to come back all everyone would have heard was what Barry Ferguson would do for Scotland and over shadow Scotland as a whole. I for one am very glad he has decided that he won't be back and hopefully now we can all move on for the good of the Scotland team and hope that the press now drop it.

It's still gonna be freezing whatever night it is :irritated: but thanks for the info, I'll need to change my early finish request now

Excellent result and great to bounce back from mid weeks disappointment like that. Today wasn't about how we played, it was all about the result and getting the three points.

LMFAO

It has to be SPL Survival, in the grand scheme of things it would be part two of the rebuilding plan with promotion last season being part one. When we came up to the Premier the first time for everyone survival was paramount, what makes this time any different?

.... and I think we all know who that is

I've not been on since before the Hearts game purely because I was so angry with that display that I decided I would keep my thoughts to myself and not upset anyone but thought now was as good a time as any to post. I wasn't surprised with last nights result and had already resigned myself to the fact that we were going to get beat, and by a potential cricket score, not because I thought we would be bad but because Celtic would be out to prove a point on the back of Rangers thumping 7-2 win against Dunfermline. They were clearly out to prove a point and the players they brought in were stacking their place for a regular first team slot. Lennon was out at 3 and 4 nil pushing his players up baying for more goals for gods sake. I 100% agree with TB's reasons and logic behind the team he played last night but the only thing I didn't agree with was the formation, having been very poor defensively since the start of the season it seemed foolish to change to a rigid 3 at the back but on the other hand I don't think we need to worry about seeing that again this season, lessons will have been learned. For me we need to start protecting the back line and drop the AMC that we play, more often than not Odhiambo, and replace it with a DM who can then sit in front of the defence and protect them as well as starting the play. If it is good enough for Rangers its' good enough for us. We are also struggling to pick up the ball in the middle and our two midfielder's aren't getting in the game, with this hopefully they would and can push up a bit without fear of exposing the defence. Before the start of the season there were people on here calling for a top 6 finish after the glories of last season and I kept quiet not wanting to steal people's thunder but now I would hope we all agree that survival is the only priority and that trumps any cup run we potentially could go on. Yes it's good when it lasts but long term has no real benefits for a club like ICT apart from the money it brings in and while this is good it doesn't really do anything for the team on the park when there is only one opportunity to bring players in (January window) which could already be too late if we don't start properly and we all saw two seasons ago how difficult it was try to recover in January from a terrible start. Last season we didn't start well but look what happened - Mahonio all I am going to say is have some faith and see what has happened when we are in November/December. There is nothing wrong with wanting us to win every game, which ultimately everyone on here wants, but we have to be realistic and look at the bigger picture.

i didnt say he wouldnt improve im saying right now he is terrible You've just proved the very point I was making! If by saying right now he is terrible isn't berating him or jumping on his back then what is?

I wasn't at the game today so can't comment on his performance today but the mistake a lot of us make is by jumping on the back of young guys and berating them too early on. He is only 18 so still has bags of time to learn, from what I have seen of him so for I reckon he has great potential and will be an excellent talent so don't be so harsh so early on. We all go on about the lack of talent available to Scottish clubs then when a manager spots one and tries to bring it on we expect big things so early on, all I'm saying is give him a chance. Clubs with the finances like ICT have to. Once Richie is fit and hopefully stays fit I think you'll find he'll be on the bench and when played will be in the centre where he is more comfortable.

Now that we have to endure the obligatory international break just as the season gets going how well have we really started compared to how we all thought we would after three league games? Trying to be impartial I would say fair to decent, at the start of the season I would have been happy with 4 points from the first three games. I don't think really any one of us would have realistically thought we could take anything from the first game v Celtic when the fixtures were announced however probably a draw at Tannadice would have been most peoples thought with today being a win against a poor Hamilton side. So having 3 points maybe insn't that bad if you look at it from that perspective. Obviously we would have wanted it to be 6 after last weeks triumph but it hasn't transpired so I hope it doesn't get the team down too much, not that I think TB will allow the players to dwell on it too much.

Full time 0v1 :angry: