Alex MacLeod

Lies, Lies, Lies!!!!!!!! but I suppose we just move on now.

Merged with this one. If you read the Sky report you'll see it does nothing more than copy parts of the statement put out by ICT.

Please do not start new threads on this subject

well thats the English Fa's fault then surely if they didn't impose the ban seems everyone is guessing here and the silence from the SFA/SFL is deafening It wasn't up to the English FA to impose the ban. He was specifically banned for a SCOTTISH LEAGUE CUP game

Cos they probably didn't get searched. I said my piece on this subject the first time it happened and I stand by that. First off the police will get the person responsible this time. Aside from the cctv installed at ER the police were carrying hand held camera's and filming at random. I witnessed them twice film stewards manhandling fans. The ICT fan who ran onto the pitch when we scored and the Hearts fan who attempted to do the same. A police officer stood and filmed both those incidents. To those who see it as a bit of fun can I just re-iterate what I said after County. This world is a difficult one for many people. Not enough work to go around and entrance requirements to even get to interview stage being so high that many things are taken into account. It is against the law to use such implements in a sporting arena in this country. It doesn't matter if they weigh an ounce or weigh a ton. They can cause harm if directed in the wrong way and they can injure. These smoke bombs are a smaller version to the ones used in the marine industry. They dont generate heat but they work on a reaction of chemicals that are harmful. Health and Safety of the public is the main reason there are controls on such devices, hence the law against improper use. You get caught you get a criminal record and your future is up in smoke.

First of all, I am well aware that the ban is competition specific. What I have seen and told is that the because he changed country it would apply to the first game of that very season. All we need is the FA to confirm or deny that to be the case. If it is the case, we move on. If it isn't the case then we pursue even further. Maybe you'd like to share with the rest of us what you have seen. I and others have read through all the rules, that are freely available online, and we can find no reference to any punishment being carried across associations.

I see that as wrong. DW was suspended for one Scottish League Cup game not an English domestic cup or league game. The people at fault are the SFA. They are the ones who scrutinise and approve player registrations. They are the ones who, regardless of what was on a piece of paper sent up from the FA, should have checked their own database and seen that he had an outstanding suspension. They are the people who must answer to this charge and they are the ones who should decide punishment if it is merited. I dont ask that Hearts be punished or that the game should be replayed. I ask that a full investigation is carried out and plausable answers made public.

My missus likened him to Bambi on ice. Legs going all ways.

All I want to see is an investigation and explanation from the SFA as to how they managed to make this balls up.

Not sure if he was part of the 25 man squad but he was definitely not listed in the starting XI or as a substitute. And as has been pointed out already, he was not listed as suspended. Is a Journo really gonna remember if he was suspended? Found this also http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1308165/Liverpool-25-man-Premier-League-squad-2010-11.html The point being made is nothing to do with his time at Liverpool. The point is he was red carded in the final of the 09/10 League Cup and his punishment was suspension in the next game he was available for in that competition.

What first game of what season? What 25 man squad? Wilson has not served a suspension in the competition he was suspended for. He was sent of in the League Cup final and went south at the end of that season.

I think this was another of the refs many mistakes. Having said that Toni did go through his wee routine of placing his towel and water bottle. He then went to the post and kicked the mud of his boots. He done all this knowing that the penalty taker had placed the ball and was lined up waiting for the refs signal. I wonder if the mistake was made when the coin was tossed though. Would it have been a different outcome if we had elected to kick first?

I'd say you've covered more than you needed to. He couldn't serve the ban in England because the ban applied only to the competition in which he was suspended. Seems to me that the English FA have made an error and the Scottish FA have not looked fully at their own records. The club has to complain. Not to get reinstated into the competition so much as to get an investigation started that will make sure another mistake like this cannot happen.

Sorry, my mistake. Its the other mob who were allowed to sign U-21's

Nothing malicious or unexpected in the thread. Maybe thats cos you've relinquished your past status.

Their ban on signings has not been lifted. The punishment was always that they could only sign players 21 and under.

I think, as with the law of the land, case ruling's should be taken as having set the precedence and the game has to, at least, be replayed. The chairman and board of ICT must challenge this.

Not this one I'm afraid. Be getting the ray's of Angolan sun instead.

My exclamation was at the final whistle and went along the lines of how the feck did we not win. Penalties are lotteries and after nine well taken ones it was inevitable that one would be missed by somebody. It would not have been the first time that we had won on penalties had we won this one but alas thats football. I hate this competition for not having replay's.

Still wonder why they asked tho as they had the clearance certificate? Possibly because the player himself mentioned this. Possibly because someone remembered that Wilson had been sent off. Either way a cock up has been made by the FA

Searching through each list I see that he was still listed up till the last list of 09/10 season. At start of 10/11 season he is not on it. Presumably because his registration is transfered to FA

The above is copied directly from the SFA list of suspensions published on 15th April 2010. Surely its not difficult to deduce that DW was not in Scotland since then so could not have served his ban.

He could only serve his ban in Scottish League Cup. I think someone at the FA has made a balls up with the FIFA transfer certificate. I would assume that if Hearts clarified the point with SFA they would be deemed not to have deliberately fielded an ineligible player. So the SFA advisor has maybe also made a balls up. Its a hard one but perhaps the club should make official complaint if for nothing else than to open an investigation into where the balls up was made.

I had the impression he didn't really want to be facing the penalties

We have been selling top teir today