i've made a 6.5ft x 4.5ft blue and red striped flag which was to be held up on a approx. 6ft dowling pole.

now DJS thought this might be a problem and got in touch with mike smith. DJS just afew minutes ago got back to me and said i can't take it because it has a pole. "eehhh!!!".

red ultras, blue order, green brigade all have bigger flags than mine on poles. so how come it's a problem with me??

is this mike smith being abit OTT again or has he been told from higher authority that poles aren't allowed in the ground.

i'm pesonally just fed up with the whole attitude towards fans of the scottish game these days. you can watch fans all over the world on youtube having a great time waving flags, banners, scarfs, creating extremely loud noise and STANDING. most "importantly" theyre doing it safely!!!!!!! however us fans in britain must sit down, shut the **** up, and not have fun but ofcourse we must pay out extreme amounts of money.

why are we letting this happen??

I remember taking a lad i used to wrk with who is a wheelchair user to a big game (think it was semi final at hampden). He had an ict flag with pole, which on match days was permanently stuck between his chair and handles so flag flew behind him when pushed. As we entered the ground we were toldwe wouldn't be allowed in unless we took pole of the flag. I pointed out that the lad who the fag belonged to couldn't actually use his arms due to his disability, but alas pole was eventually removed.

Once inside the ground there was a group of women on a hen night/day (about 20) all of whom had wooden poles larger than flag pole with a picture of a certain celebritie stuck on the end (can't mind if it was Elvis or cliff richard)

Common senseappears to no longer exsist at football grounds :rolleyes02:

Why not permanently fix the flag pole to the wheelchair, so that a tool has to be used to remove it and glue a ping pong ball to the top.

This will also give the wheelchair more stability in flight when throwing it on to the pitch

Did you get your flag in c4l

As far as I could see, there was a very nice new flag in the North Stand this Saturday, but no sign of a flagpole.    The flag was VERY much smaller that the Aberdire ones on view at Pittodrie on Thursday night - discrimination between SPL Clubs?

or has he been told from higher authority that poles aren't allowed in the ground

That means you Malkowski!  :029:

As far as I could see, there was a very nice new flag in the North Stand this Saturday, but no sign of a flagpole.    The flag was VERY much smaller that the Aberdire ones on view at Pittodrie on Thursday night - discrimination between SPL Clubs?

These huge flags are known as surfing flags and are a common site in the football world.  They are banned at ICT following a recomendation to ban them after some fans in Aberdeen set off a flare under cover of the flag.  Other clubs seem to ignore this advice and still use them.  I think you have to look at the risks, 1 reported incident shows that it is possible, but as a percentage the risk of a problem must be minimal.  Risk assessments should be based on the worst case scenario and then the probability of an incident.  ICT have taken the stance that these flags are banned from our ground.

These huge flags are known as surfing flags and are a common site in the football world.  They are banned at ICT following a recomendation to ban them after some fans in Aberdeen set off a flare under cover of the flag.  Other clubs seem to ignore this advice and still use them.

As should ICT !!! If our fans had a history of bad behaviour, fair enough but they dont. Lets not sanitise absolutely all the fun out of the game.

At every home game at Toronto (with more than 20,000 fans) there are several of these, and the biggest ones are actually owned by the club and brought out by the stewards to start the journey round the stadium !!!

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The only time have have experienced one of those big surf banners was at a Sheff Utd v Norwich game years ago, and it passed over my head as the only goal of the game was being scored.  :008: