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We will be much better when Munro and Duncan are back.

We're going to be absolutely fine. There's 2 or 3 teams with poorer squads than us this season. Nothing to be concerned about I don't think.

the negatives we take from this game is a positive for me as we have a week to sort it out thats the point in pre season also i feel the team could take a winning mentality from this pre season undefeated the biggest test for the lads will be how they react when we lose

It's only a friendly. We've seen numerous big teams get pumped by lesser clubs. From Rangers to Liverpool. It doesn't mean it'll be like that at the start of the season. I see above Partick just beat Celtic. Again, it's funny but meaningless. At least give them a competitive game before getting depressed.

Depends what you mean by struggle too. I think we'll struggle. But that's along with Hibs, Dunfermline St Mirren etc etc. I don't think anyone is certs to go down this year and I think the OF, Hearts and Dundee United have it sown up for the top, with 'Well pretty close to it. We've lost our top scorer and striking lynchpin, plus a stalwart and former (I remembered this time) captain in central defence. That's going to be tough. It'd be like St Mirren losing Higdon and getting rid of Potter, or Aberdeen losing Diamond and Maguire. And of course, Killie, Hibs and St J have also lost big players too. So, yeah, it's going to be a struggle. But, to be honest, I think every single year will be. Let's just enjoy the ride and not fret too much before it's definite.

Honestly the way the government and police are going anyone can be in the firing line, it would be foolish to attribute the problems to only Rangers and Celtic as I am sure most sets of fans are guilty of something that someone else doesn't like, whether it is sectarian or not is another thing. Salmond has spotted an opportunity to cover up our societies flaws and blame just about everything on sectarianism that no one is safe now and must really think about anything that is sung, that includes the use of phrases like 'gypsy b@~tards' and 'sheep sh~+@ing b@#tards' as this could very easily be construed as sectarian even though in the loosest term it is really not. It is all to do with how people percieve things. I mean they were even discussing the merits of arresting people for singing the national anthem depending on when it was being sung, Rangers fans sing God save the Queen at the end of every match, does that mean it's ok for 34 games of the season but not in the 4 Old Firms because it is seen as inflamatory? What if other fans sing Flower of Scotland against Rangers, is that seen as inflamatory as it is in retaliation to them singing God Save the Queen, it has got silly now. I do however feel that it is the Old Firm that have to watch as they are clearly on the radar more than other teams however Hibs, Hearts, Aberdeen fans to an extent have a lot of watching to do as well. The other problem with our society is that every parasite of the media and journalism profession love this sort of stuff and the minute something is sung or said they jump on it in a shot and make it twenty times worse and bring it to the fore even more, only in Scotland do we attempt to make things worse rather than trying to help the situation. Sectarianism is nowhere near as bad as it was in the 70's, 80's and even the 90's and yes the Old Firm have made huge strides forward however it is a problem in society as much as football and sadly will never be fully eradicated, it happens all around the world it's just that Scotland is a smaller nation that does nothing to help itself and I includes governments and organisations like the SFA/SPL in that as well.

I must get my eyes checked I thought you had typed "Dirtier than a Gypsy".

I cant say i'm impressed by the look of the defence so far, TB says he is looking for another defender, now that worries me a lot! he signed a couple of young inexperienced guys, none of them right backs, which means he plans to play Proctor at right back. I'm having nighmares about Rossco, Proc and a young inexperienced defender alongside them, fecking hell!! Proctor is NOT a good defender never was never will be and if TB thinks he will be, we are in the shyte. Its understandable that the management look to the future and bring on young players but the defence needs to be solid and using untried young players is a very serious gamble, which i hope does not backfire.

I expect the players to give their full, 100 % in every game and expect the management team to work hard and make the team knit together. If they do I have a realistic outlook for the coming season and can see us having an extended cup run and emulating last seasons 7th place. I have found over the years that having an expectation on a league finish or cup run only leads to disappointment so I take it a game at a time, for instance, last season I went to Ibrox expecting nothing and we drew 1v1 and I was delighted, I went to Parkhead expecting nothing and we pulled off an amazing 2v2 draw and I was over the moon feeling like we had won the game, first game of the season I was happy even though we won as I saw a lot of potential in the first half but if I had expected us to win the game then I would have been disappointed and annoyed. For everyone on here that wants a top six finish, good cup run or both is it through hope or through expectation? For me it is through hope and not expectation.

I expect the team to go out and give 100% every game. If they do that then we'll be where we deserve to be come the end of the season and you can't ask or expect any more than that.

Duff's contract offer has been withdrawn according to todays Press and Journal, sounds like Tel got fed up waiting for him, cant say i blame him

Think what I said was quite fair. If he don't wanna stay fair enough he's had loads of time to decide and at least then TB would know he had the cash tae spend on an alternative as the new season is fast approaching.

He's known about the expiry date on his contract since he signed it. TB said before the end of last season that he wanted to keep him, so if he hasn't discussed this with his family etc and decided to stay by now quite frankly, cheerio. Personally I never rated that highly anyway but horses for courses I guess.

in hindsight, making it a subscription group is probably a better idea anyway so this person actually did us a favour in the long run

With fans like some on here who needs enemys

we are making judgements about someone and something we know nothing about...

Code: I support the Barca of the North. exept we dont get uefa to give us shoddy norweigan refs that cant see a stonewall handball FROM 5 YARDS AWAY!!!!!!!!!

As the new season rapidly approaches us, does any really think TB is going to make anymore significant signings be4 we get going? IMHO i think if he doesnt we are destined for the drop or are atleast going to struggle :S