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"Proper" were they? Oooh fancy! I wasn't aiming to belittle anyone, and if I did well then I must truly say, that from the bottom of my heart.....that I don't give a hoot if a few noses have gotten out of joint because they take a game so seriously. It's a little pathetic. You're essentially saying that anyone who hasn't endured (and I stress that) the lower leagues isn't a proper fan. You're bang out of line for that. Anyone who gives their hard earned money to follow their team, no matter when they started, no matter how often, no matter how much they spend, is a proper fan as far as I'm concerned. It's such snobbery and attitude that holds the club back "ooh you weren't there on the cold dark nights in Forres. You're welcome to spend your money, but you're not really one of us". It stinks. It's no better than the refuseniks who are still bitter approaching a quarter of a century later as opposed to being proud that a small team, any team, from the highlands, against all the odds and with a tiny budget has managed to win the main cup competition in the country and qualify for Europe. So do forgive me if I have no sympathy whatsoever for them at all. It's beyond childish.

"So Ted, yer man, that angry pompous fella that won the worst poster award, is he really such a blinkered old twit then?" "Shhhhh Dougal, that's quite enough, he's a very clever man you know, with the big words and that. And don't you be mixing up your Nairns and your Brochs now, or he'll be ripping you a new one." "But Ted, he told me he mixes up his Whitehill and his Annan Athletic and sure there's half of Scotland between them." "Enough I said Dougal! Anyway where were we?" "You were telling me about when that East of Scotland club Ferranti Thistle....." "Dougal! I've told you they're called the "works team". You know, like "pub team". They're a works team". "Well anyway, you were saying the dirty rotten obsessive Lowlanders ganged up on the Jags from Inversneckie". "Yes Dougal, it was a conspiracy". "So the 37 dirty Lowlanders voted for Ferr.... the works team?" "No Dougal, only 19 of them". "What, the rest abstained then Ted?" "No, they em, voted for the Jags Dougal." "Haha come on now Ted, I'm supposed to be the eejit around here, not much of a plot that is it? 19 away from 37, that's, that's eh, quite a lot. Some of them must be less rotten than others eh?" "LOOK! There was corruption. Something about eh, (waves hand dismissively) Forfar bridies being handed out. OK?" "Ah, right you are Ted. So what about the next time then?" "Well, this time they pulled a real fast one Dougal. They altered the votes so the big clubs got 4 each, the middle clubs got 2 and the wee diddy clubs got only 1." "(Snort) ah come off it Ted! I'm not thick you know! Everybody knows that would only help the highlanders! The wee diddy clubs were the ones objecting in the first place!" "No Dougal, it was a cunning plan to obsessively shaft them and get it right up them". "Ah right, I get you. They all voted for Gala Fairydean then?" "No, Caley Thistle" "What, Caley Thistle AND Gala Fairydean?" "NO THEY DIDN'T! No they didn't Dougal. (Whispers) They gave 68 to Caley Thistle and eh, some more to Ross County." "Speak up Ted! 68 out of 82? Isn't that quite a lot Ted for a lot of conspiring rotters?" "Yes but it was a dirty conspiracy Dougal, letting only the two in." "So how many spaces were there Ted?" "Eh, two." "And how many applied Ted?" "Eh, five." "Ah, right Ted."

I'm not a fan of a Caley home and Thistle away concept, but I do think a red version of the home kit with two black stripes down the middle would look pretty cool. It'd also be nice if the club opted not to go with a white or ICT coloured away in some fashion and go with something different for a change. I'm bored of white away/third kits, though black seems to be a non-starter.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't this thread titled ICT in Europe. I dont think the opening poster intended it to be a debate on the merits of English clubs Laurence. If you want a debate on such then please start it in Other Football.

£3 from the social club for the last couple of seasons, not expecting it to change this season

Marrlon is the sole supplier and that sounds a bit fishy. I see theres another scarf out as well

zzzzzzzzz Laurence, try reading the previous 7 pages first ?

Whilst I understand your concerns on that front, I'm pretty sure Rangers will have a meaningless midweek friendly that will require his full attention.

Look chaps the English clubs are there on merit The problem they have is that their schedule is much harder than any other league They have to have huge squads to compete on several fronts. With nail biting games in every competition. So if they don't quite do as well some years as others with less demanding schedules then it is churlish in the extreme to suggest they have too many places in Europe We are talking about some of the best football teams in the world.

Quite a lot. We have been discussing the enormous progress, despite a phoneboxfull of refuseniks, made by football in Inverness since the central belt obsession with keeping the Highlanders out was at last defeated in 1994. The extent to which we (including Ross County) have got it right up them (the Central Belt) is therefore sweet in the extreme up here!

Not saying it is the greatest it is surely the hardest a blind man on a galloping horse can see that

zzzzzzzzz Laurence, try reading the previous 7 pages first ? I work to hard to read all the pages on this web platform , some of us have work to do