Scarlet Pimple

AJS, for a man with your number of posts you have clearly followed ICT closely for a goodly number of years. So, I hear your disappointment and, more importantly, disillusionment.

Yeah , he blames his tools. . And, for the way this deceit has been handled, that's what T B, M and M are---TOOLS

VERY ENCOURAGING FOR THE OTHER PLAYERS ALSO.

Insensitive, arrogant man it seems..... Terence--there's many a slip 'twixt cup- and lip and the portents are not good for you I am afraid. ..In fact the clouds are gathering already. And there's a face in the clouds------- Oh nooooo ! It's thon seer, IHE.

Acrimony like this is rarely because a person decides to move on or better him/herself. Everybody has the right to do that. In this case it's simply about the way it has been engineered by Mr. Butcher and Hibs and the way it has progressed--especially sitting in the stand as reported and in the Boardroom prior to the game if I read reports correctly? No one could have faulted him for being in the CaleyThistle dugout throughout the match since he was still the ICT's Manager. If the HIbs fans missed that little play then they had better remember it for the future because a leopard does not change it's spots To me that is unforgivable and showed both cowardice and disloyalty and contempt for the team that has brought HIM to prominence also. This is a two-way street and is not just about how great HE was--as someone said above, this was a team effort. And I remain unconvinced that this was not in the works for many weeks, not just in the flurry of the last few days. This is all too sudden and fast to be believable because the Board at Hibs must have been thinking about this change of Manager for a long time and surely could be expected to have made some moves to test the way the Managerial winds were blowing before Mr. Fenlon resigned or would have been fired. How? By making a few private telephone calls ........ And let us not forget that he had signed a contract and is very lucky that Mr Cameron allowed him to set it aside. Of by suing him for breach of contract if he resigned without a very good reason to support such an action. If he had sued Mr Butcher then I can't help but wonder how that would have affected the view of Butcher's character in football quarters going forward into the future. I sincerely hope that the compensation the club received is well over the 100,000 pounds suggested because this is just unethical nonsense.

Since the whole thing blew up so quickly without any prior warning, then was a fait-accompli also within a very short time span, one can hardly be faulted for thinking that telephone calls were made between certain parties quite some time before it all came out in the open. If so, then shame on the parties involved because I will bet the top ICT officials were not aware of it. The big question is : how long has this been in the works? All I can say is that Maurice and Terry can go if they want but so long as Steve stays then what have we really lost. ? He will still be available to work the Southern shores for promising young players and if the new manager can quickly get the confidence of the players and they work well and hard together then we can continue the building process If I had been chief at ICT I would not have allowed all three to leave at once --only the two. T B will still have his contacts in England but we can, if necessary, now cultivate good Scottish prospects who can realise the potential of coming to a top team whilst at the same time still looking out for more promising young players from South of the border, even Wales and Ireland. Now I 'm off to rinse out the sour taste I still have in my mouth.

Never heard much more about Pele? Has he reformed his..er..approach to life perhaps? And is there any indication that he might be able to emulate the last four years or so in terms of success? Apparently, Tony Mowbray was a good manager with, I think, Sunderland up until very recently. He did very well in the first year but the next was less so and, because he didn't achieve spectacular success, he was fired. Seemed very unfair but these top teams have little tolerance for any kind of apparent failure. So Moyes had maybe watch his step at Manchester United. Anyway I think Mowbray got a raw deal and he might be well worth considering EXCEPT that if he takes the job it could, I assume, be for the short time before he makes his name again and is off to another Premiership club. So, on that score, we don't need another Terry towelling trick do we? Calderwood is solid as I see it--as stated he has done well so hope he is at least in the frame. Ask Donview what he thinks about his performance at Aberdeen....

Now you see him, now you don't? Oh what a tangled web............................

Yes Bughtmaster, IHE HAS INFLATING IDEAS AND TERRY HAS FLATULENCE.

I've given a like to the newbie Ronald Hardie just so he feels needed and wanted and to let him feel that he could develop into a right down regular poster . Plus there is a modicum of thought and common sense in his post...........

Jeez, Sneckguy, ah wuz right, he's actually got over 12,000 near enough. What a guy! Must sit up all night composing his next incredible set of pictures. Where do you get all those pictures Itchy? What a collection or what a fantastic search engine you must have in yer brain. Some of them are not only entertaining but a knockout. Showing that you earn your accolades 'cos truly you are a very clever fella. And S. Pimple is very good at sucking up eh....so I am looking forward to another 'Like" IHE for this one. And as the originator of HMS Sneck he is a fantastic creator of past good memories of both this fantastic site and ICT,s progress.

There's a lot of wags on here. And there's nothing like a good laugh to make one's day. That's as good a reason to come back as any At least the subject appears to have swelled the ranks with new posters So we have to be thankful for small mercies. To the young man who feels hard done by because IHE gets more press than he does this is a simple mathematical equation really: IHE has well over 10,000 posts and the newbie has 573. Case closed (hopefully).

Well, if Terry does face the sack in a year or more, then what will he do and what club would be interested in hiring him? I'll bet he has at least a two year contract with a hefty payout if terminated prior to the end date. But, still, even if the monetary reward is spectacular he is still too young to retire and what team would approach him--Rangers?

Mo and Fo has to be considered as an option. Foran as Assistant and player as well. Deserves it, whatever. I guess Richie will be in FOR A NOD from the Board. No disturbing of the team , no new Manager to blood and fit in, no wariness from the players towards the new Manager. No new plans or techniques to upset the apple cart. Onward and upward. Worth a thought and maybe a trial try-out. Looks like this team is a train on a roll that nothing can derail. Holy smokes...how can we be so lucky! Turbulent and exciting times. New blood is maybe what we need. Obviously Mo and Steve were not as close to T B as maybe we thought and that's GREAT for ICT. Roll on the next gemme.

Scaffolder ,with a name like yours one can only shudder when we see you come on here. However, so be it, you must be in your own mind SHARP as a tack, green as a BLADE of grass and DEADLY as a masked raider gone sour. Are you the executioner or the guy who carries the wee hanky to wipe the blood off the block after the chopping is over? Approach the Hibees and offer your services 'cos the team apparently needs a chopping and a copping in order that it has the slightest chance of rising up the league again to prominence like it once had in the days of Turnbull and Pat Stanton. Just so you know, I once went to see the Hibs every other week for 6 Years when I lived in Edinburgh as a callow youth of some 28 years (about 1966). And I really enjoyed Easter road on the terracing across from the main stand. In these days the crowd was always about 12,000 average and today's crowd, presumably including a large contingent from Inverness, would be regarded as something of a disaster and a matter of great concern. If Butcher fails to make an immediate positive impact and the crowds dwindle even further where will his salary come from and who will come in as your next Manager. I feel sorry for the current state of affairs at Easter Road because past good times and loyalty can't be forgotten easily and I do wish your club the very best --so long as it is achieved by honest endeavour and commitment to the team. So, to be honest, nobody on here hates the Hibs, just your remarks I fear. Thank you for quoting some of my remarks. Be assured that these were not criticisms of Hibs in any way just directed at the underhand way that this has unfolded which smacks of a lack of integrity of purpose which does nobody any credit or good. And , remember the old adage..." if it can happen to me then it can happen to you as well" and you won't like it one bit when it does. And the older adage that a leopard does not change his spots.!!! Who do you think I am referring to? Think about it and get a touch of foreboding as the future unfolds. By the way, Caledonian F.C and Thistle F.C. were each formed WELL over 120 years ago so the pedigree may even be more sterling than that of Hibs. Our current success has been achieved because we are honest injuns and have character in the characters in our team. Sounds like some of your players don't even seem to want to try very hard which, if correct, is rather shameful especially when the chips are down. Good luck to Hibernian F.C. Mr S.

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Oh My! "Oh, what a tangled web we weave others to deceive." Terry could not come back now after all this mayhem even if he wanted to. His credibility is now forever shattered. Just sitting in the stand alongside Mr Petrie before the ink is dry on his new contract and, officially, all is not yet done and dusted is a major faux-pas IMHO. He's crossed the Rubicon and I only hope the Board of our club sock it to Hibs with a hefty transfer fee being demanded. . What an altogether ,hasty, messy business this has proved to be.

Terry, Terry on the wall Thou art about to have a fall. Two years, your dream will be truly shattered To us it's problematical to wonder if it ever mattered To tell you the truth, methinks upon the wall of discontent your spirit will be truly splattered Thus upon your face you will feel as if you have been truly clattered. Think again , oh Terence , Lad The Ides of March are pointing to all that's bad Tickle my tonsils, frankly speaking, that's altogether rather sad Terry! Going to Hibs? Are you .....MAD? The Green and whites will help your pay cheque , but only a tad. Truth is that you will yearn for the salad days at Inverness There is no doubt, at Easter Road, your joy will be less Tardy? No matter , just come to Daddy and now confess That a mistake you may be making, no less Tinkerville would be a lot better Totally! "Cos when you beg to come back it's a lot closer!!

Kenny Miller did come on a ton when he was at the Vancouver Whitecaps recently after a slowish start where we were wondering if he was going to settle quickly enough to be able to make his mark on the team. But give credit where credit is due, he is quite a smart cookie and quite well spoken and he certainly tried very hard in his last season . Also he looks in top physical shape which always helps. At times his play was outstanding but it did not have the major impact it should have had because the support was not sharp enough or deadly enough to capitalise on his trickery. Some of the goals he sored were pure magic==persistence pays and a cool experienced head always helps. If Neil Lennon can be as successful as he has been since swapping his role of player for management, which is not at all an easy change, then I feel that the Board of ICT should interview Kenny and give his application very serious thought, even in a support role.One thing stands out for me--he has a mind of his own and could mature into a strong, passionate leader.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24431067 After advising Caley Thistle fans earlier this season to watch out for Partick Thistle ,when I didn't know about this set-up in Glasgow, here is the skinny on the energy which is fuelling Partick's future rise to stardom? WOW! Imagine winning over 160 million pounds in a lottery? What would you do with all that money? It's almost unimaginable isn' t it? But the prospects of helping the needy, the sick, the disadvantaged, animals and health research AND Caley thistle is so vast that can someone please buy me a lottery ticket?

So long as ICT don't lose on the park then I am beginning to be past caring about the management situation. 25 pages ---- ''whew! OOPS!.. New reports coming in from the Daily Avenger in Edinburgh: Butcher states that he heard the strange sound of a battalion of police outside his door incanting "THE LEITH POLICE DISMISSETH US". DESPITE BEING URGED TO SAY THAT AS QUICKLY AS HE COULD AND REPEATING IT VIGOROUSLY FOR 5 MINUTES, HE chose the alternative and rolled over and went back to sleep. And the band played.."believe it if you like."

Who knows? Kenny Miller may actually be in the frame to replace Martin Rennie at the Vancouver Whitecaps. But, no, I don't quite think that he has been in Canada long enough to have sussed out all the subtleties of this country yet. The MLS covers a huge territory--Canada and the U.S.

ICT Chris Arte you trying to teach us a L-Esson?

If Robbo is considered to be desperate then some others of us could opine that he is simply an active man aggressively trying to improve his future prospects and should be given the respect he is due for not sitting around and just moping about the fact that he has not been in the Management frame for quite a long time instead of getting on with his search. I admire him for that. Robbo is not a nyaff, he's an aggressive fella who gets off his mark to keep his pot boiling. I don't envy him because who else is going to get him a decent job with prospects? Good luck to him I say and, if he was hired on at ICT , I believe that he would put a lot of effort into improving this club. For sure he appears to love the game and has been keeping into touch with all the other footie personalities around so, there you go. We could do a lot worse imho. If Terry did not have his two assistants to help him, where would he have been I wonder.? This is a speculative comment but not intended to be disparaging --just reviewing the past realities and the luck of the draw that he managed to engineer. After he goes, there won't be too many Managers that can obtain loanees from England so we had better look around for a Manager that is well-versed in Scottish football, has sympathetic contacts and can identify talent with a purpose in mind when he sees it.

This is opportunism at its best. What harm could it do to Mr Butcher's career if he stayed until the end of the season? There will always be another Hibs or another Barnsley--depending entirely on his performance, of course. But, assuming the team does very well from now on I am sure that after the season ends he would have been sought after by a large English club with an offer which he could honourably accept and thus leave with plaudits ringing in his ears. It is very difficult to say that the presence of his two assistants were the driving force behind his success to date but, without them I think his task in improving ICT to the current level would have immeasurably more difficult to achieve. Although I also think that many English Managers have been in ongoing direct contact with him offering him the opportunity of assessing and/or taking their younger players on loan for relatively short periods of time. In this connection this suited them very well since those players' real ability to rise to the challenge of the Scottish Premier League game would have been revealed which would have enhanced their value to that club greatly and, for Terry, it allowed an uplift in the overall performance of ICT. Whether that uplift for ICT was ultimately going to be long term or short term I rather fancy the latter since Terry had to leave sooner rather than later. His policy of taking good young prospects from England on a continuous basis did no harm to his own career prospects since, if one failed at relatively very minimal cost to the club and to him, then there was always another one waiting in the wings to take his place. So, if you are an admirer of strategic decision making with a very forward-looking bias, then you have to hand it to him for his vision if nothing else. If he is off to Hibs then good luck to him I suppose. But I am personally left with a feeling of perplexed incredulity and a feeling of disappointment that somehow we have been taken advantage of rather than having benefitted greatly. He may be the winner of this bout but will ICT continue to prosper under a new Manager without his having the same the same contacts in England. Each of you can answer that question for yourself but, as for Scarlet Baby, he honestly feels that, without having received any notice whatsoever, we have been left high and dry or--up the creek without a paddle, dears. Not exactly a very classy move Terry. Finally, I feel sorry for the hard working Board of ICT and particularly Kenny Cameron who appears to me to be a very decent and highly dedicated gentleman. This must be a blow to the heart.