IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER

Two very patronising responses - Quelle Suprise - some posters just are so rose spectacled it is unbelievably frustrating.

Hope that there is enuff support to run the bus - but 12.30 kick off on a feckin Sunday - WTF.

Throw in the feckin towel SP. How that suggestion works at some clubs is where there is a training pitch or indoor facility in the close proximity to the park. That is where you can hold open training sessions or games between opposing teams. BUT is it just me becos I was as influenced by the atmosphere and the won't to be part of it rather than the entertainment on the park.

SP is simply another who is voicing his frustration that our club simply develops and progresses on the field and is extremely well managed financially but fails to attract the level of support that is deserved for those sterling efforts. That "emotion" is beginning to show in nearly every thread recently. SP and others are unfortunately situated thousands of miles away and are not privy to the feel of the TCS or the local area. I hesitate to attend home games as I often leave deflated irrespective of the result or performance on the pitch. ICT have some of the most critical and whingeing supporters in Scotland. They are mainly of the 50+ generation and often have a pop at the yoof? Why some of them sit in the North Stand is beyond me. And then there are some who away from home join in to the banter who favour the equally dismissive population of the Main Stand. I have been in the feckin Main Stand TWiCE and I fail to see the attraction - other than a feeling of superiority or even a sense of being closer the upper echelons of the club. Mingling with the management and some old heroes takes precedence and apparently some Kudos. What I suggest is that you make the North Stand a sit where you want area. If anybody whinges then they can feck off to the sides or pay a mere pittance to transfer to the Main Stand. Then the Main Standers could become what they are away from home and feckin join in to producing an atmosphere. In many ways this is a forlorn hope as football today has it's upper, middle and lower "classes". Many look at the emergence of a "sugar Daddy" as being the answer but that could also destroy the comradeship and the "history" and make us even more "plastic" than what we are now. And SORRY to conclude that ICT will never, ever replace the tightness an togetherness of Caley or Thistle. But HEY it is still a "religion" to many including maself. But is it not sad that I only ever really experience that "tingle" away fro home.

A product, irrespective of its quality, that has been sought and purchased by somebody who clearly wants to be part of the ICT fraternity. I know quite a few posters and now welcomed individuals who began their "journeys" with similar posts. Maarlon - I am too old fer stickers but suggest that you send a small number to one of the moderators and they can distribute them at a game. And do not let the turning bestards get you down.

Give the guy a feckin break - especially when there are threads about our dwindling attendances and inability to attract new supporters.

Dougal and I have always set the hard core figure at 2500. Are the home attendances not also dwindling due to decreasing numbers of the away supports. Again probably due to economics but also due to the A9 journey and the novelty element of the Inverness trip being eroded.

I was holding back but bud did state that nobody appears to have come up with the answers and Big G raises the lack of " a latent support". There are obviously economic restraints but whether some despair or not the "loss" of two institutions, the resulting merger, the lasting derision between some fans and their families, plus the fact that many Caley and Thistle fans had their own "big" first team has and will still have an influence for years to come. It is encouraging to see more kids bearing ICT shirts in the streets and coming more to games. But when they hit 18ish it is often a case that they have to up sticks to go to University or find jobs. To me MK Dons are the true version of a "plastic club". Many refer to us in similar vein but at least we have not moved away from our beginnings. That would have been akin to a MK Elgin !!

And you have four more numbers that tm4tj ?

It was actually very interesting. The main focus of what he said was: "My life has been clouded by a long-standing pattern of grandiosity, an overwhelming need for admiration, and usually a complete lack of empathy toward others. People like me, albeit superior in general, often believe they are of primary importance in everybody’s life or to anyone they meet. I have to conceded that I often display snobbish, disdainful, or patronizing attitudes. I suppose that I can also be inflexible and pervasive across a broad range of personal and social situations. I feel however that I have been wrongly accused of having a grandiose sense of self-importance. I do not feel that I have exaggerated my achievements and undoubted talents, but I do expect to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievement. I have long experienced fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance and inner, beauty. Of course I am “special” and unique and that is why I tend to associate with other special or high-status people. My strength is that I can easily be exploitative of others and take advantage to achieve my own ends. That leads to others being envious of me. That is why, like a magnificent peacock, I delight in oozing of arrogance and haughtiness. I like to be admired from afar, and then complimented up close. I will be back and prove that I was right all along and the only casualty could have been me. But I am too clever to allow that to happen."

Too miserable 4 the journey ?

Dons Away Will Strengthen Our Numbers.

I was in the beer garden at the Bay Horse.

Where have I heard 55% before ?

Feck me - Not another Yes or No referendum.

Defending too deep starts with the back four always deep when Brill has the ball looking for the eventual throw out or short pass. But when we do get it right it can also be very effective as with the goal at Firhill. That was Brill to Raven and goal 10 - 15 seconds later. Unfortunately we do not do that often enough. The main thing that Tuesday says to me is that we will struggle more without "main men" like Shinnie and Draper. If I have any criticism I would have spared Christie on the Saturday and went to Castle Greyskull to attack.

It could even better the journey to Dungwall undertaken by Jock Watt, Bugtmaster and Pimple :

Best of luck to James Muckinbyre.

No Woman No Cry

Johndo MacKenzie and Iain Christie - best midfield partnership EVER - Borough Briggs 1974

Oh and the biggest No goes to Mr Finnie who produced one of the worst and most inconsistent decision making performances that I have witnessed in years.

Well there were a few firsts yesterday. The Lansdowne Bar has to be the poshest feckin pre-match venue ever and Mary Hill was clearly not dressed for the occasion. And there was more discussion about feckin politics than there was about feckin fitba. Thank feck I can't vote, am stuck in Lancashire and do not have to choose between wearing a Yes or No badge. And then Naelifts arrived and full of feckin confidence !! I should have known then that it was going to be one of those days. YES - We were "stunning" fer 20 minutes and IF we had deservedly scored a second and settled then YES we would have murdered them. And YES even then if we had taken our chance then it could have been 5 or 6 - 3. The first goal started with a Brill, a fantastic touch by Raven, a scintillating move and an impressive finish by Doran. And after the first goal we began to - from my perspective - started to be too feckin cocky and sprinkled with a fair degree of feckin showboating which was a big NO NO fer me. We simply underestimated Partick and payed the price. NO - Graeme Shinnie - when you are playing against a player who clearly has a favoured left foot - you do not allow him to glide inside you. NO - Gary Warren and Josh Meekings - You pick your marker for any dead ball situation and you stick to it. nO you feckin do not stand off. NO - Ryan Christie - you do not drift back in to your own half to pick up the ball and try to hurry things up. NO - Greg Tansey - you do not play as the deep midfielder when you have limited options in front of you and NO - Gary Warren - you do not give away needless penalties with amateur tackles. So YES there were positives and NO we should not be so cocky again this season and YES we can learn lessons and YEs we can improve. BUT the biggest single worry fer me is that Billy McKay is looking like a feckin Alex Salmond in a promising set up. what the feck has happened to him ? To me his head has gone down and he is a shadow of what he was and could be. He simply looks feckin pished off with the manner in which he is being played, he looked a forlorn figure at times yesterday, with little if any support and bereft of movement around him. Tansey, Christie and Doran were simply far, far, far too deep. I will give my MOM to Dean Brill who created our goal, saved a penalty and, in the end saved our goal difference from a bashing, Raven and Shinnie were solid - apart from the first goal which Shinnie did learn from. Warren was commanding but fecked up twice. Meekings too looked solid. We really missed Draper who got a knock when he was booked and possibly should have been hooked earlier. Tansey played far too deep and we looked to him too often but again we should learn from that, Doran to me is still not fit. Watkins has the look of being a new Barry - either Wilson or Robson. Christie annoyed the feckin shitt out of me and I would have hooked him a lot earlier and totally hol licked him, there is NO I in team - but he is a considerable talent and will learn - or YES be feckin told. And I have said it all about wee Billy - who like the team needs a supporting forward and a Plan B which was needed yesterday but was it available - NO - and that is a big worry. But YES - that lesson was probably needed and YES we will benefit from the experience - and let us hope it begins to show on Tuesday when we will not think that all we have to do is to turn up and look pretty, And NO I do not have a vote and NO I will not go into my politics and YES I will be happy when the referendum is over and NO I ain't going back to the Lansdowne Bar unless I am taking Kylie Minogue to the next Plastic Whistle away day.

Naelifts - Naelifts - who the feck is Naelifts ?

The usual at 11

That would be Grimm