IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER

A club museum - old feckin hat - it is open between the hours of 13.00 - 14.30 in many feckin bars across Sneck - old gits with their half and halfs whingeing.

:018: :thumb04: Hope Caley100 joins in.

Ya just lpy me with "Cheeky Beaties" ya tube.

Falkirk tend to play it on the deck from the back - and in the last few games I have been at - we have allowed them to do that - we have also sat far too deep and also allowed them to pay pretty patterns in the midfield - we cant allow them to do that. Brew has a lot to make up fer his tactics at the last Falkirk away match - so his selection will also be interesting - will he stick with his "faves" or will he rightly rock the boat. I would also like to see Bazza playing as Westfields appears to suit him and has alwasy been a happy hunting ground for him - especially as Falkirk appear to have a tight back four, one central holder and midfielders who sumtimes go forward too much - in the past Bazza has been the perfect foil. We have also failed miserably in the past when we have tried to play a target man up front - especially when we launched the hoofs - Rooney has the pace to unsettle a towering Bairns central defence - as long as the supply hits him and not in the sky. I fear that Barrowman would be in their pockets. Falkirk have also clearly targetted Rosscoe and Hastings in the past. This will undoubtedly not be Brews choice and I am only going on hearsay this season but I would go tactically with: Fraser Proctor Duff Munro Royster Wilson Cowie Duncan Black Vigurs Rooney

Bring Back the Budvar Tent and the Away supporters "cage" at Brockville.

One of my fave players - probably cos I mainly watch away games. Away from home he can usually sit in his little hole in front of the defence and he can be quietly effective - if you get a chance just watch the ammount of covering that he actually does - when he has a ball player with him he usually resorts to the short pass to that player - when he has wide players he usually resorts to spreading it wide, again all quietly effective. Unfortunately his inconsistency shows when he has to be more of a playmaker and the majority of the time he pings balls to the opposition. At home he is sumwhat negated and has to take on a more forward driving role which he isnt that good at. But another "skill" is that he can fire a good screamer from 25-30 yards and he does Have "leadership" in the sense that you can often see him slowing things done or getting fired up if he thought peeple were not putting in the effort. Hope he is back tomorrow - with Black and Cowie and Wilson (wide)

Aye the drumers and the BENI were always "leaders" - minded by "The Mob" of course.

Palmerston Park please.

Hey - can I have an XXL (I like them baggy) wiv. on the front ICT and :thumb04: on the back IHE

Where exactly is this Cadgers Brae ??

Dods not coming - Dan the Man off to the Magpies - this has to be down to spondoolachs.

Plus it is more of the "singers", the "hard core" at away games - and we are usually all stuck in together in a constricted space. Alcohol does not have to be imbibed to lessen your inhibitions.

**** me - peeple are agreeing with me - can soon change that !! Anyway I totally stick by original post and that is not becos I am anti-Brew - I think he made a BIG mistake but he/we got off with it. I also agree that we have no divine right to beat teams like Arbroath especially in the cup AND M4TJ is rite - there were bigger "fallers" than us. According to reports Wood and McCallister "failed" as did Barrowman and Rooney - I would suggest that it may not have been the case if it was played the other way around. The two main starters are told they have an hour and they go to try and finish off the game - allowing the two yoofs to come on against a demoralised outfit - theory I know but better than Brews. Plus our squad will never be of an "equal" standard - we will always have the few stand outs, the few reliables, the few inconsistents, the few who can play if they have to. Last nite was NOT the time to experiment. Falkirk may tell us a lot about the season ahead - I think that we may well pinch it as I feel that we will be the Arbroath on Saturday but we do have the "talent" to soak it up and hit on the break.

We have just had a big debate about how important cup runs are to our finances and to attract the support and then some of you support Brewster. What would have been the outcry if we had gone out ?? We should have started with the strongest X1 and took on the yoof once the job was done - the outcome is a spate of needless cards as I suspect we began to panic and that may also cost us in the future. And would this game have been the opportunity to play Barrowman and Rooney as a airing and probably enhance their understanding of each other and potentially their confidence. It has to be a matter of underestimating them as any small team (used to be us!) would give their all to have a SPL scalp - it was their cup final fer fecks sake. We survived and I bet it will be the strongest team next time -Brew is a very, very lucky boy- has he feckin learned anything ?

Whoa - this can be more simple !! Get a Monthly forum / meeting - limit the numbers - it could be three/four representatives of the club and three/four representatives of the supporters - one/two from the Trust and one/two from the Forum - the fans reps are not there to promote their own thoughts - they are there to represent the forum. Then you have a Standing Agenda - made up of the list of usual issues - from the fans and the club - then you discuss each item to look at what has been done, what the fan/club reaction is, what actions could be taken further and who is responsible. Then you can have the Matters Arising at the end and put them all into minutes. Then you post them on here - hopefully the feedback may be that things have improved -if it is no change then you raise it at the next meeting. At least that way peeple can have their say and it would be up to the reps as to which posts / comments to take to the next meeting. And lets just concentrate on the non playing side at the meeting.

And the thread goes on and on - loads of concrete criticism but loads of constructive suggestions. So what do the members of the Supporters Trust say ? This is going nowhere if we dont push it - Should the Supporters Trust not suggest / "demand" a monthly forum and put 2-3 reps from this forum on it. Lets get together a Standing Agenda - lets put forward the sensible proposals and lets put a thread on here every month with the minutes. Lets feckin act not whinge.

Scotty - Remember the days when you could get well oiled before the game - stand and sing freely on the terraces - engage in "harmless" banter with peers and away fans - enjoy the craic and go back happily to the pub ? Well nowadays ya are apprehensive about what is classed as intoxicated at a football ground - you are apprehensive about standing up and singing - you are apprehensive about being lifted for pettiness - and possibly spite. Jobs, careers, aspirations and livelihoods can be at stake - that is feckin frightening !! There is only one thing fer it as far as I am concerned - I am feckin emigrating to Toronto.

Yip - I agree with a lot of that AF - but more open communication is required - full stop. Rumours escalate, doubts persist and grow when clear statements are not forthcoming and secrecy prevails. Why dont you feel negativity on other sites ? Could it be that there is an atmosphere of openess. The club appear to be widening the gap between themselves and the support - that should never be the case. We should be in this together - working together - it feels like a battle to get any clear information to be passed down - And who's fault is that ? Shurely some of the suggestions being made and the constant negative comments - car parking; stewarding; the advertising boards; disabled facilities; food; free tickets fer kids; fans forums etc. - not to do with the feckin playing side - must be ringing in the ears of the management - and what do they appear to do ?

Scotty - been there and got the T-shirt - Rules, regulations and over zealous stewarding is killing the game - it aint an enjoyment anymore - it is trial and tribulation.

Perhaps some will chuckle at me saying this but there really is a lot of common sense being spouted on this thread. I hope that Gringo Junior and some peers use the likes of this thread to open up some dialogue with the club. What about a Monthly Fans Forum with a Standing Agenda - the minutes could be relayed back on here. That puts the Club and the supporters in the spotlight - The club has to repsond to the agenda items and any actions taken would be a bonus BUT the supporters would have to apply themselves as well and turn out on a regular basis. It can be a chosen few representatives from each side - not a room full of tension. We realy need a forum where the issues - some feel like eternal ones - are raised again and again.

Lets be a little realistic here - we are a surviving and selling club - that is how we survive. Bringing through the yoof has to be a positive and saves money in the long run. If we could attract more bums on seats we would be on the breadline. Again that has a lot to do with the inept running of that side of the club. I take it that the "expenses" column was reduced from last year.

Well good news on the whole but leaves a lot of "doubts" fer some - Good shares outcomes which I take are nothing to do with Orion Enterprises - we still dont know what the greedy Mercenary pocketed - what about the money that we are rumoured to have bagged for his Euro 2008 expolits - but I suppose business is business but I still detest the secrecy - which leaves those lingering doubts. Wouldnt it have really helped the relationship between the club and the fan if the statement would have been more precise in stating the approx. ammounts that we profitted from this summer from the Mercenary farce - but there again business is business and that will be well hidden by this time next year. Does explain the jettisoning of a few players though and - YES - the importance of the cup runs is well and truly highlighted. Again on the positive side a mention of the continuing Youth development and the numbers moving through into the main squad would have been a nice touch. Gawd - do we need some PR "magic".

I wouldnt be seen dead wiping ma erse with yon scabby thing - imagine what venereal diseases you could catch - Milroyphillis, Black Death, Jock MacDonald rot.

Personally I would advocate getting totally pished before all games - get one of the supporters buses from one of the pubs - and finish off the session before going home. Plus it is better for the environment.

Unless Dinamo Bucharest visit.