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Just like you - ya old git - he favoured a feckin rockin chair.

OOPS - A Freudian feckin slip :rotflmao:

And the feckin screamer at Ayr United - Congatulations Golly and feck aff ya ***** *******. :clapping03: :clapping03:

Dear Mr Savage, I was intending not to formally complain but the more that I have dwelt on what happened the more angry I have become. As well as my disgust that I may have been specifically targetted for removal I have also looked into some of the legalities, which I will conclude with but I would wish you to consider this correspondence as a formal complaint. I am a loyal and faithful fan of Inverness football. I was born in the town in 1957 and followed Caledonian from a very early age. I now live in Lancashire but I still travel regularly to home and away games, often with my family, at considerable personal expense. I have to admit to being a rather eccentric and extroverted individual when I don my website "alter-ego" of the Immortal Howden Ender and I have no doubt that my outspokenness and sarcastic sense of humour undoubtedly irritates people at times. But most people understand that my jibes are purely in jest, that my actions are of a jocular nature and that I would not act in a manner that would lead to bring myself or the club into disrepute. I was the individual who originally mooted the idea for the Standing section at the Dunfermline game, via Caleythistleonline.com. I travelled north for the weekend by train and enjoyed the Supporters Club Indoor Bowling event on the Friday evening. I took up my place in Section A, attired in my kilt and "lucky" accessories, which admittedly probaly made me stand out more than most. I positioned myself on the 6-7 row from the rear of the Section. All the younger fans behind me were standing for the majority of the time and I was therefore not blocking the view of any fans positioned behind me. At no stage did any other fan make any comment to me or request that I should become seated. I sat and stood up for periods during the game. I stood up when ICT were pressing forward or to join in chants, at other times I stayed seated. No comments were made to me in the first half. Shortly into the second half a lady steward asked me to sit down which I accordingly did. A chant broke out and all around me stood up in unison. For some reason the lady steward ignored the others and warned me that if I did not sit down I may be ejected. I asked for the reasoning and she responded - "That is just the rules". At this stage I pointed out that most of the fans around me were doing likewise and pointed out that the fans in the Dunfermline end had been standing up for most of the match. A chant of "stand up for the Caley Jags" then broke out. The entire section stood up in unison and I joined in. I was again picked out and told that I had to leave the ground and was ejected by two stewards. On the way out one of the stewards apologised to me, stating that they had been given directions to specifically ahve me removed. If I had been abusive, intoxicated, and/or disorderly my ejection could not be argued but it would appear that my ejection may have been due to some sort of personal grudge and for standing up to sing in a Singing section. At the present time I am disillusioned and disgusted at the actions of the club. I understand that the Supporters Trust and Club are looking into the incidents that occurred on that day, and I understand that the treatment meted outed to other fans ejected was more extreme than I experienced. I intend to copy this letter on to the web site. I would wish to be afforded a formal response which I will receive in confidence. I would wish to conclude with excerpts from the fans at West Ham United which I am also sending to the Supporters Club and Trust as my recommended view on a way forward. Yours sincerely, MR JOHN MACKENZIE .1 A significant proportion of supporters wish to watch football whilst standing, and as terraced areas are no longer permitted, many choose to stand in seated areas. The desire of these supporters to stand is very high, and it will be very difficult to stop the persistent standing. 1.2 The efforts made by the authorities to prevent standing are out of all proportion to the degree of the safety risk, and there is concern that the sanctions imposed will have a financial impact on clubs, and could lead to crowd disorder. 1.3 The Government has used its powers under the Football Spectators Act to decree that stadia in the SPL should be all seated, and although there is a very good case for the re-introduction of well managed safe standing areas, it appears unlikely that this will be rescinded in the foreseeable future. 1.4 The law relating to standing in seated areas in not clear, but does not appear to forbid standing. Ground regulations do not permit standing during play, but are based on guidelines not legislation. 1.5 The safety risks associated with persistent standing vary according to ground design, and in particular the slope and tier of a stand, but are generally very small. Passive standing during normal play is less hazardous than standing at times of excitement, yet there is no attempt to prevent this. Spectators leaving the ground at the end of a game has also been identified as a greater risk than standing during play. 1.6 The FLA state the possibility of a cascade effect as a major reason why it does not consider standing in seated areas to be safe, however given that many thousands of goals have been celebrated by supporters jumping from their seats with no such effect occurring, statistically the chances of this happening due to passive standing during play, must be negligible. 1.7 The FLA’s potential concerns with regard to crowd management are largely negated if supporters stand passively in front of their seats, and concerns relating to customer care can be overcome by separating those who wish to stand from those who prefer to sit. 1.8 Unless some compromise can be reached there will be increasing conflict, which will have a negative impact on supporters and clubs, and occupy resources which the safety authorities could use to deal with more serious issues. 1.9 A common sense approach is required, with a realistic approach to safety management. 1.10 It is suggested that for a trial period, one or more areas of each ground should be selected as giving the least risk, and supporters in these areas permitted to stand in front of their seats. 1.11 Supporters should be involved in the assessment of risk and safety management of these areas, and a Code of Conduct introduced to cover issues such as keeping gangways clear. 1.12 A new initiative is required to reach a solution, and this would have greater chance of success if it concentrated on achieving compromise on standing in seated areas, rather than aiming for the return of terracing. Football clubs should be encouraged to become involved in seeking a compromise solution.

Well, in that case, the wee frees can choose not to abide in the feckin Standing Section - on Saturdays as well as Sundays. :001:

Would appear so Alex - good item from the Killie Trust. Standing Areas at Football Grounds 23rd January 2007 Steven Powell, an elected director of Supporters Direct (who also works on a part-time freelance basis for the Football Supporters' Federation, which represents supporters of clubs and national teams at all levels in both England & Wales) has been in touch with us about an issue which we feel is of importance to our members and indeed all fans of the beautiful game.Putting the wheels in motion to bring back some standing sections in our football stadiums and trying to get back some of the old atmosphere we seem to have lost in the post Taylor Report era. Some weeks ago Portsmouth South MP Mike Hancock promoted an Early Day Motion (EDM) in the House of Commons at Westminster calling for a considered debate on the introduction of safe standing areas in England & Wales. Standing was prohibited by law in the top two divisions down there following the Hillsborough Disaster. Although there is no statutory prohibition on standing at football grounds in Scotland, the SFA and the SPL were arm-twisted into introducing an all-seated requirement on the basis that similar legislation would be introduced in Scotland to that south of the border if they did not. The EDM has so far received the support of 89 MPs, including representatives of the Labour (45), Conservative (21), Liberal Democrats (18), Democratic Unionist (2) and Social Democratic & Labour Parties (2) and Plaid Cymru (1). It isn't often that you see MPs with as radically different views as Ann Cryer and Anne Widdecombe on the same side of the ball! Powell and his FSF colleagues want us to ask our Trust shareholders to contact our Westminster MPs and ask them to join their colleagues south of the border in signing the EDM. The FSF (and before its formation in 2002, its two founding partners, the former Football Supporters' Association and the National Federation of Football Supporters' Clubs) have campaigned long and hard for the repeal of the regulations requiring all-seater stadia by law in England & Wales. We are not making a representation on this issue to anyone on behalf of the Trust as this would be presumptuous on our part that our shareholders are in favour of this, however, if you do feel strongly about it we would encourage you to do what you can to get Scottish Westminster MPs to sign the EDM. Whilst it will not bring the repeal of the regulations itself, it will help to force the Westminster Government into a debate on the issue

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Shurely this could be a Human Rights issue - If there is a collective group who agree that they will stand ONLY when singing, then should their views / beliefs not be upheld ? And who can sing and chant and sit down at the same time. Do you sit down through a concert ? Do you sit down in a church when you sing a hymn ? Standing and singing go hand in hand. :024:

What is the exact legal wording of the Health and Safety regulations on standing at football grounds in Scotland ?

I know it went a bit pear shaped and I still suspect that it was staged but I am still up fer drafting a serious proposal: So I need to know: How many seats in one section of the North Stand - not the family section. How much would one season ticket cost fer that area? Are there any examples of such areas in British football - especially ones that have worked? Last season - how many season tickets were sold fer the North Stand ? What is the official capacity of the North Stand? Would the Supporters Club formally back the idea ?

I am being serious fer feckin once. If I am going to be targetted I would prefer it was fer some specific reason and not by some alledgedly nomark non-entity. What are the contacts fer 1 and 3 ? - and I will post the content of my letter.

And I think you must have been feckin sniffing it.

This is amazing - Perhaps we can ask formally as to his role within the club. :024:

and spit

So do we officially go fer: We come on the HMS Sneck We lie drunk on the deck From Inverness town we did roam Drinking all night Got in to a fight Well I feel so broke up I wanna go home So Hoist Up The Sneckies Sail See How The Main Sail Sets Call The Captain Ashore &/Don't Let Met Me Go Home I/Don't Wanna Go Home I/Don't Wanna Go Hooooome This Is The Worst/Best Trip Ive evr been home Dont let me go home (repeat)

SLOOP JOHN B.

If somebody will tell me what the name is I will feckin sit down. :rotflmao:

Intercorse with a horse boys - Bestialitys best. :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

We are building fer the future - Rankin is young and still learning. Pat O'Linnen is the same. Blackie has to mature and Cowie will be in the shadow of Bazza next season. But RIG has the midfield that could serve us well fer years to come.

So .. Mr or Mrs Anonymous has provided a smoke screen. I am pissed off with Mike Smith but if he is taking ICT forward then that is enuff fer me to forgive and forget. So ONCE AGAIN I ask: What is his role? What is he actively doing to help ICT ? What has he achieved so far ?

I suspect that the mailer erse may well be Mike Smith. The prosecution rests..and sits down. :rotflmao:

and baited

The SPL are waiting for Gretna to formally announce where they will be playing their home games. I am told that Mileson is offering monies to the SPL to allow Gretna to play in Carlisle.

Flybe end Birmingham City sponsorship 14.04.07 Birmingham City Football Club are searching for new sponsors after airline Flybe announced the end of its four-year association with the club. Flybe extended its initial deal with the Blues in 2005 for a further two years, but has now decided to bring an end to its relationship with the club. Flybe becomes main sponsor of Norwich City FC! 26 April 2006 Flybe, one of Europe’s leading low fares airlines, today announced a new two year sponsorship deal with Coca Cola Championship team Norwich City Football Club. The multi-million pound deal will see Flybe become main club and official shirt sponsor for the next two years, with an option for Flybe to extend beyond the initial term. The deal underlines its long-term commitment to the club and to the East Anglia region. Flybe boosts Exeter City with new sponsorship deal! 13 May 2005 Flybe, one of Europe’s leading low cost carriers and one of Exeter’s largest employers, will announce on Wednesday 4th May the renewal of its shirt sponsorship deal with Exeter City Football Club, as the centenary year for the club draws to a close. The deal reconfirms Flybe’s firm commitment to the Grecians, after two years of solid investment, helping the club go from strength to strength by bringing a much-needed injection of capital and confidence to Exeter City FC. Published: 25 April 2007 12:00 Low cost airline Flybe has struck a three-year sponsorship deal with Southampton Football Club. Flybe will replace Friends Provident as main club and official shirt sponsor at the end of the current season. Under the deal, the airline will have exclusive branding on all first and reserve team strips that will be available from July this year. Flybe boosts Scottish Highlands with new sponsorship deal! 25 May 2005 Flybe, one of Europe’s leading low cost airlines has surprised many in its choice of new sponsors following its withdrawal from Birmingham. It is suggested that the growing trade and custom of Dalcross Airport in Inverness has led to a three year sponsorship deal being offered to the local club, Caledonian Thistle. The deal confirms Flybe’s firm commitment to football clubs in areas where trading and facilities have improved and it is suspected that by bringing a much-needed injection of capital will only serve to consolidate Caledonian Thistle in their SPL status.